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Wed Apr-23-08 12:16 PM
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Obama is inevitable. He now needs to ignore Hillary and focus on McCain. |
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Obama's win over Hillary will take some time, but it is inevitable. There is now sufficient momentum in delegate count to get him across the goal line, likely by June 1st.
At this point he should decisively begin ignoring Hillary and switch his focus to McCain. Here's why:
1. Obama gains nothing by sniping with Hillary. He has run a campaign of "new style" politics, while Hillary plays old style. This has begun to resonate with voters, and will be reinforced if Obama refuses to play the old style game of petty politics. Responding to Hillary's attacks is allowing her to control the news cycle. He needs to break this.
2. Obama gains by taking on McCain. His biggest risk now is not losing to Hillary, but losing to McCain. He needs to start defining McCain and establish in GE voters' minds the clear differences between him and McCain. He will begin to appear as the de facto Democratic nominee, which will only hasten Super Delegates to get behind him.
His daily message should consist of one focused definition of McCain and the different approach he would bring. Any attacks from Hillary can be waved off with "that's more old-style Washington politics that's not helping solve the real problems that American's have".
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 PM
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1. The problem is that the media refuses to ignore her like they have done with other candidates. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:26 PM
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21. they will if he does. |
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if he stops paying attention to her, hillary will be left arguing with herself like a tool and the media will feel stupid for playing it off as if theres any chance she will win.
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:20 PM
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2. tell me who won PA yesterday |
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:23 PM
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5. Please see "Obama is inevitable". |
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He will be the one to take on McCain and needs to start doing it now.
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:25 PM
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7. Hillary won Pennsylvania by too small a margin to make any difference |
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It was her last chance to really gain on him, and she failed to do this.
She cannot make up the delegate gap with the remaining states, and she will go into the convention with fewer delegates than Obama.
Got it? :shrug:
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:25 PM
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8. Won what, 12 delegates? That will be wiped out by NC? |
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:26 PM
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1. Closed a 20 percentage point gap to less than 10. That's a win for Obama.
2. Hillary now needs even HIGHER percentages in the remaining states, in order to catch Obama, than she did before yesterday's primary. That's a win for Obama.
3. More PA voters who were registered Democrat as of March 24, voted for Hillary yesterday than Obama. That's a "win" for Hillary but is irrelevant in practical terms, noting point 2. Also note that many of her "newly minted Dems" will very soon be registered as Republicans again, just as they were a few months ago. I know because some of them told me so.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:00 PM
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14. so you are saying that the 1.25 mil who voted for hillary don't count, right? |
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:53 PM
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12. Obama did. He closed the gap and she made no real progress AND |
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she was forced to spend money she doesn't have.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:01 PM
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15. so the 1.25 mil who voted for hillary don't count, right? they are just sort of |
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:12 PM
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18. Lighten up. Hillary picked up a net of 12 delegates. The goal line for Obama is now closer. |
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Obama's eventual win by delegate count is inevitable. It's time for him to have faith in that and begin behaving like the nominee.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:23 PM
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20. That's how this race stacks up. Maybe they counted more than |
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all of us counted early on when you all were telling us she was inevitable and to get used to it? :shrug:
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:21 PM
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3. Neither candidate should have been sniping at each other. |
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Both should have been attacking the right-wingers and mcbush relentlessly and aggressively.
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:22 PM
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4. Just keep up the drumbeat against McCain and the mess that |
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the republicans created, don't stop, make it loud and constant.
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JBoy
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:50 PM
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10. The candidate who takes on McCain now will gain an advantage. |
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In fact, that would be Hillary's best tactic now, too, if she wants to present herself to Super Delegates as "most electable" (if that's her argument du jour).
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:24 PM
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6. "Inevitable"? Ever the plagiarist! |
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:51 PM
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11. That's exactly RIGHT. By responding to her cr@p, he just dignifies it. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 12:53 PM
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13. No. That's what Kerry did with the swiftboaters and look where that got him. |
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He needs to go on the offensive and put Hillary on the defensive.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:03 PM
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17. you know, I could swear that it is the repukes we need to be going after. |
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I am absolutely sick of having to make sure, reading some of the venom here, that I didn't get switched over to that other site. some days, it is hard to tell the difference.
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:19 PM
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19. tell that to Hillary. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 01:02 PM
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16. Um, I dunno if we want to take on the jingle of a failed candidacy. |
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