Rev. Wright is such a scary guy, Bill Clinton invited him to the White House

[nebula]

Let's play the guilt by association game!



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During one of the most difficult periods in the presidency of Bill Clinton, he addressed a group of clerics at an annual prayer breakfast in September 1998 just as the Starr report outlining his dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was about to be published.

Among those in attendance, was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., who is seen shaking hands with Mr. Clinton in a photograph provided today by the Obama campaign. Mr. Wright’s relationship with Senator Barack Obama, as his longtime pastor, has been the subject of considerable controversy in recent days because of incendiary excerpts of sermons Mr. Wright gave at their church, Trinity United Church of Christ, in Chicago.


The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and President Bill Clinton at a prayer breakfast
at the White House in September 1998. Why is Bill shaking hands with a known America-hater?







Dear Pastor Wright:

Thank you so much for your kind message. I am touched by your prayers and by the many
expressions of encouragement and support I have received from friends across our country.

You have my best wishes.

Sincerely,
Bill Clinton




http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/photograph-of-bill-clinton-and-rev-wright-surfaces/">NY Times

[jgraz]

1. Ugh -- can at least the Obama folks stop mentioning Rev Wright???

Please?

[nebula]

2. No

because Hillary and McCrazy will NEVER stop bringing it up.

[EmilyAnne]

10. Is it true that there are anti Obama ads on North Carolina TV that depict Wright?

I just saw mention of it on DU a few minutes ago. If its true, we will need to talk about it.

[mmonk]

47. It hasn't run yet. It's supposed to run Monday,

NCGOP is proving you don't have to wear robes to be a racist.

[NYCGirl]

4. Reverend Wright will be on Bill Moyers' Journal this week.

Check your local PBS time and station.

[cbayer]

29. That should be very, very interesting.

I look forward to it. Journal airs on Friday nights, at least in SoCal.

[azmouse]

7. It would be nice if that was possible but...

Did you hear the GOP commercial from NC attacking two candidates there because of their association with Obama, using Rev Wright's words to do the attacking?
Disgusting doesn't begin to describe it.

[EmilyAnne]

11. You just answered a question I just posted upthread. Thanks!

[Political Heretic]

34. I'm sure its good politics to stop mentioning him. But I have a hard time doing it because:

Wright got a fucking raw deal from the media. Having listened to complete sermons out of which this media snippets were taken I'm pretty ashamed of how the press has smeared his name. I applaud Obama for not completely disowning him, but I was disappointed to hear him go so far to condemn is remarks, even though I know that was what was politically required. Wright was right. Especially his chickens coming home to roost FULL-CONTEXT comments - they mirror truths REGULARLY pointed out on DU for years and years. Hillary Clinton won't even know what its like to be a black man, and Jesus of NAZARETH wasn't exactly a blue-eyed white man. He was a person of color, if he existed at all. Even Wrights most debatable comment, that about the government giving disease to the african american community isn't really all that far out of the ball park, since the government has ADMITTED to do EXACTLY that in the past.

[kenny blankenship]

3. Sshhhhh! No one is supposed to know

what lying hypocrites the Clintons are. Actually if it hasn't dawned on anyone by now it's probably safer not to wake them. They let out the most appalling squeals!

[nebula]

9. Obama should have countered with it

when Shillary brought Wright up in the debate.

[hisownpetard]

5. The way Bill is pointing his finger makes me think he's saying, "I did NOT...

have sexual relations with that woman."

[MyNameGoesHere]

6. Did he baptize the Clintons while he was there?

Did he perform a wedding ceremony? Was he mentoring Bill? Did he preach while at the white house? Did he spend 20+ years at the white house, and Bill never heard him say anything? Are you sure you want to rehash this? I am game. I wouldn't mind seeing this issue reignite. Your call.

[nebula]

8. Would you invite a 'terrorist' to your house and ask him to pray for you?

That's what Bill Clinton did.

[EmilyAnne]

12. This is so ridiculous. When did the Clintons seeks an officiator for baptisms or weddings

while living in Chicago and attending a giant, predominantly black church? Good grief, I can't believe someone like you considers yourself a Democrat.

[nebula]

15. Yeah, 'I only invited Wright to my house and prayed with him

no big deal. But its perfectly fine to use him to smear Obama.'

The Clintons are disgusting hypocrites.

[MyNameGoesHere]

30. That's not up to you.

Obama or you do chose who are democrats. Thank god for that because only the elitist pigs could join your little club.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

25. What about Billy Graham? He was on the freakin' Watergate tapes making anti-Semitic remarks

Yet the Clintons used him as a spiritual guide quite often.

[MyNameGoesHere]

31. yeah and when billy graham said god damn america.. Wait he didn't

say that. Sorry it's Obama's albatross not the Clintons. There is a word for that... hmmm. Oh yeah accountability, something that eludes the candidate for hope, change, unity, and all that happy horse poo.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. No, he said this

"A lot of Jews are great friends of mine. They swarm around me and are friendly to me, because they know that I am friendly to Israel and so forth, but they don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country, and I have no power and no way to handle them."

I'll take God Damn America any day. I'm no jingoistic flag-fucker and I'm an atheist.

But Billy Graham made that awful statement on the Watergate tapes. H.R. Haldeman wrote about it in his diary in 1994 and the tapes were released in 2002. I've yet to hear a peep from either Clinton denouncing the man, and they still continued to meet with him.

He also said publicly that AIDS was probably a punishment from God in 1993.

Would he be your pastor?

He was Hillary's.

Where's her speech denouncing his words?

It's probably cool with you because Everything's Different When Her Majesty Does It.

[MyNameGoesHere]

46. Satan is my pastor. And at least he gives me links and context

when he replies. He could have said that when Clinton was 10 years old for all i know. And nothing about religion is cool. But if Billy Graham is as horrible as you say he is and BFF to the Clintons why hasn't your little meme caught on? Oh i see.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

48. Because Billy Graham is white. Duh.

If you can't see what is so obvious, I can't help you.

[MyNameGoesHere]

49. He is not white see

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,865071,00.html

[mrreowwr_kittty]

50. WTF? The Billy Graham who was denigrating Jews with Nixon on the Watergate tapes.

Is the one I'm talking about. He's the white one. I know it's become instinctual to throw black people under the bus to you Hillbots at this point, but try to keep up.

Billy Graham is white.

As is Pat Roberstson, Daddy Dobson, James Hagee, Jerry Falwell, etc.

Jeremiah Wright is black.

That's the difference.

[MyNameGoesHere]

51. Oh no you just fling that race stuff out like poo dont ya?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

52. If the poo sticks, wear it. nt

[MyNameGoesHere]

56. HAHA oh my what a 3 year old come back. n/t

[PBS Poll-435]

13. Simple answer

Bill Clinton was unaware of Rev. Wright's remarks about 9/11.

He wasn't in church that day.

[nebula]

14. Pleading ignorance is your defense?

[PBS Poll-435]

18. I guess....?!? I don't know.

I think it is a pretty solid defense to say that in 1998, there is no way that Bill Clinton knew about Rev. Wright's comments on 9/11.

Because he was not in church that day!

[stillcool]

20. Condemnation prior to Investigation....

Chickens coming home to roost...

Blowback
excerpted from the book
Blowback The Costs and Consequences of American Empire
by Chalmers Johnson
Henry Holt, 2000
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blowback_CJohnson/Blowback_BCJ.html

p8
The term "blowback," which officials of the Central Intelligence Agency first invented for their own internal use, is starting to circulate among students of international relations. It refers to the unintended consequences of policies that were kept secret from the American people. What the daily press reports as the malign acts of "terrorists" or "drug lords" or "rogue states" or "illegal arms merchants" often turn out to be blowback from earlier American operations.
p9
One man's terrorist is, of course, another man's freedom fighter, and what U.S. officials denounce as unprovoked terrorist attacks on its innocent citizens are often meant as retaliation for previous American imperial actions. Terrorists attack innocent and undefended American targets precisely because American soldiers and sailors firing cruise missiles from ships at sea or sitting in B-52 bombers at extremely high altitudes or supporting brutal and repressive regimes from Washington seem invulnerable. As members of the Defense Science Board wrote in a 1997 report to the undersecretary of defense for acquisition and technology, "Historical data show a strong correlation between U.S. involvement in international situations and an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. In addition, the military asymmetry that denies nation states the ability to engage in overt attacks against the United States drives the use of transnational actors that is, terrorists from one country attacking in another."
The most direct and obvious form of blowback often occurs when the victims fight back after a secret American bombing, or a U.S.-sponsored campaign of state terrorism, or a CIA-engineered overthrow of a foreign political leader. All around the world today, it is possible to see the groundwork being laid for future forms of blowback.
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Terrorism(by definition)strikes at the innocent in order to draw attention to the sins of the invulnerable. The innocent of the twenty-first century are going to harvest unexpected blowback disasters from the imperialist escapades of recent decades. Although most Americans may be largely ignorant of what was, and still is, being done in their names, all are likely to pay a steep price-individually and collectively-for their nation's continued efforts to dominate the global scene. Before the damage of heedless triumphalist acts and the triumphalist rhetoric and propaganda that goes with them becomes irreversible, it is important to open a new discussion of our global role during and after the Cold War...
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"Blowback" is shorthand for saying that a nation reaps what it sows, even if it does not fully know or understand what it has sown. Given its wealth and power, the United States will be a prime recipient in the foreseeable future of all of the more expectable forms of blowback, particularly terrorist attacks against Americans in and out of the armed forces anywhere on earth, including within the United States. But it is blowback in its larger aspect-the tangible costs of empire-that truly threatens it. Empires are costly operations, and they become more costly by the year. The hollowing out of American industry, for instance, is a form of blowback-an unintended negative consequence of American policy- even though it is seldom recognized as such. The growth of militarism in a once democratic society is another example of blowback. Empire is the problem. Even though the United States has a strong sense of invulnerability and substantial military and economic tools to make such a feeling credible, the fact of its imperial pretensions means that a crisis is inevitable. More imperialist projects simply generate more blowback. If we do not begin to solve problems in more prudent and modest ways, blowback will only become more intense.

The American Empire: 1992 to present
from the book
Killing Hope
by William Blum
2004 edition
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/American_Empire_KH2004.html

Following its bombing of Iraq in 1991, the United States wound up with military bases in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates.
Following its bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, the United States wound up with military bases in Kosovo, Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Hungary, Bosnia and Croatia.
Following its bombing of Afghanistan in 2001-2, the United States wound up with military bases in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Yemen and Djibouti.
Following its bombing and invasion of Iraq in 2003, the United States wound up with Iraq.
This is not very subtle foreign policy. Certainly not covert. The men who run the American Empire are not easily embarrassed
And that is the way the empire grows-a base in every neighborhood, ready to be mobilized to put down any threat to imperial rule, real or imagined. Fifty-eight years after world War II ended, the United States still has major bases in Germany and Japan; fifty ears after the end of the Korean War, tens of thousands of American armed forces continue to be stationed in South Korea.
"America will have a continuing interest and presence in Central Asia of a kind that we could not have dreamed of before," US Secretary of State Colin Powell declared in February 2002. Later that year, the US Defense Department announced: "The United States Military is currently deployed to more locations then it has been throughout history."

A Brief History of U.S. Interventions: 1945 to the Present
by William Blum
Z magazine , June 1999
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html
The United States carried out extremely serious interventions into more than 70 nations in this period.

[PBS Poll-435]

21. I don't care what books you try to use to justify his

Divisive and disgusting remarks 5 days after the attacks.

People were shocked & in mourning.

If he has a disagreement about US foreign policy...perhaps he should write his Congressman.

[stillcool]

22. Kind of reminds me

what happened to Galileo when he said the earth was round. Whatever. Stay 'outraged' over Reverend Wright, but do go along with those actions our government takes that result in 9/11. Chickens coming home to roost.

[PBS Poll-435]

23. I am not outraged and I am not bitter.

But it was F'd up for him to say what he said at that point in time.

It was an cheap insult to the nation and more importantly to the victims & their families.

[stillcool]

33. blah, blah, blah..

he wasn't talking to you. You didn't hear this until more than 6 years later. He is not an elected official. Who do you think you are, to judge someone you know nothing about? Not only do you know nothing about him, you don't even care about who he is. You are willing to tear down any human being for what?? What do you think he is an animal for you to kick? I hope you get every single thing you give.

[PBS Poll-435]

35. Wow...Wasn't talking to me?

I referred to the remarks, ONLY.

I sad nothing about the man, just his filthy, selfish remarks 5 days after 9/11.


And as for you....



Turn that frown upside-down!

[stillcool]

36. "Filthy, Selfish" remarks..

How about I use the same language to describe you? By the way, are you insulted or outraged by the millions of people our government has killed? No. I didn't think so. Only by a preacher you know nothing about.

[PBS Poll-435]

37. You still don't get it.

The words. Not the man.

[stillcool]

38. I find your remarks to be

Divisive and disgusting, filthy and selfish...oh yeah it was more than 6 years ago that I read them in just one of your posts. I'm thinking the problem is not with our government. The problem is with people who are "Outraged" because a black preacher man made comments to his congregation. Over 4,000 dead soldiers? No problem. Over 1 million dead Iraqi's? No problem.

[PBS Poll-435]

39. That is your right as an American.

Cherish it!

[stillcool]

41. It is my right..

to debase, defame, slander, and ridicule you?

[PBS Poll-435]

43. Until your rights impose on my own....I guess.

[Toucano]

16. No one really cares about Wright.

Why keep bringing him up?

[nebula]

17. Obama's opponents certainly care about it

and the media will make it an issue of it again and again, whether we like it or not. especially in the GE

[Toucano]

19. The media has talked the hell out of it.

It hasn't affected voters.

[stillcool]

45. Rinse and repeat...

[Hippo_Tron]

24. OMG Clinton invited him to the White House exactly 3 years before 9/11

Coincidence? I think not...

[suston96]

26. Great photo....Clinton is completely ignoring him. Maybe he thought he was White House staff....nt

[Catherine Vincent]

27. Shouldn't you guys be finding a pic with a Fox News correspondent and Rev. Wright?

They are the ones that are constantly talking about Wright.

[cbayer]

28. Old, very very old.

And posted ad nauseum.

However, I am sure that Obama would thank you for bringing up Wright again. :sarcasm:

[nebula]

53. The Clinton campaign

certainly wish this "old story" would go away, don't they?

it shows them up for the two-faced hypocrites that they are.


they want to keep smearing Obama with the Wright story,
all while trying to keep their own association with Wright covered up.

[2rth2pwr]

40. Do you actually find the two situations equivalant in any way?

If you do then how about these two?










edited to add "about"

[informatico]

42. Was the invitation before, or after Wright's "God Damn America" comments

And his "government invented AIDS" comments?

[stillcool]

44. what do you think?

by the way...

http://www.wanttoknow.info/humanguineapigs
1931 - Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 - The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 - The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occurred within poverty-stricken black populations.

1940 - Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 - Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 - In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 - U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 - Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.

1945 - "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 - Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.

1947 - Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 - The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 - Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 - In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Francisco. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 - Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 - U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 - Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 - CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 - The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1956 - U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1960 - The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the European population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 - Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 - Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 - CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.

1966 - U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 - CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 - CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 - Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 - Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 - United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 - The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 - Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 - Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 - First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine.

1985 - According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

1986 - According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.

1986 - A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government's current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.

1987 - Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.

1990 - More than 1500 six-month old black and Hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.

1994 - With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.

1994 - Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War.

1995 - U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.

1995 - Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

1996 - Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.

1997 - Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.

[Leopolds Ghost]

54. Scary... this deserves a thread in GD n/t

[jonestonesusa]

55. Powerful history of our own country's past atrocities...

Many of us prefer to believe that these things didn't occur because it sullies our image of our own government. Others, including myself, would prefer to know and face the truth, no matter where it leads.

Presidential election years are hell on truth-telling...and hell on anyone like Rev. Wright that questions the moral soundness of American foreign and domestic policy.

Will DUers stand up strongly for the right of free citizens to call attention to episodes like these so that we can prevent them in the future?