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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:04 PM Original message |
Clinton Criticized Obama For Saying "It would be profound mistake for us to use nuclear weapons" |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's different. She was winning then. Now she will say anything to win. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. She belongs on a ticket with McNutcase. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. BO's statement is naive. He should be forgiven because of his lack of experience in military affairs |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. And her experience is...? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. None in uniform but she is a member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services. n/t |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. The Senate: the group that gave us the Iraq War Resolution and Kyl-Lieberman. n/t |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. She was under pretend sniperfire once.... |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. sniper fire |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Bill got a BJ from a WAV once. n/t |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
71. She took out that sniper nest in Tuzla, right? |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. naive? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Whether HC is electable is not the issue. Please support your statement that BO is not naive re |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. So you think "military affairs" isn't much more than... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. See #23 n/ |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. *snicker* you just pwned yourself. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. See #23 n/t |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Is it naive to think that we don't need a nuclear weapon to |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Was your experience 30 years ago limited to E1 duties? n/t |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Nope. And, yes, it did include working with nuclear weapons. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Good experience working with nukes but did that include targeting strategy? That's the issue a |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Nope, that part comes from reading and participating in C/E |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. If you are as current on military strategy as you claim, then you know the OP quote from BO |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. And a good night to you, too. n/t |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. So, you are comparing a rifle to a nuclear bomb??? What does that say about YOUR expertise??? n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Your post suggests you also know little about military strategy and tactics. n/t |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. You're the one claiming expertise. One need not be a general to know that a rifle and a nuke... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. Good, you understand my point that BO knows zero about strategy and tactics for rifles or nukes. n/t |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Hillary Clinton is no longer electable in a general election. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. She can't win. Never could win..... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. i'm no fan of o'hanlon's but he certainly knows more than you |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. See #23 n/t |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. See #37 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. bwahahaha. you are full of s**t, dear. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. So, using nuclear weapons is good how? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. See #23 n/t |
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I'll see your #23 and raise you |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
75. Have a peaceful evening. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Kerry has been for eliminating nukes for decades - guess his experience is no match. Neither is Sam |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. OP quoted BO "profound mistake for us to use nuclear weapons in any circumstance" in Afghanistan or |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. To you, maybe it is. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. What's naive is dropping a fucking nuke and thinking that |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. And Bill Clinton's military experience? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. why the fuck would we need to NUKE Osama's cave? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. really? |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. Just so you know |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. Peace |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. a voice of reason. thanks. n/t |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Preach it, Dennis! |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. Fucking Hypocritical Sleezebag. n/t |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hillary sez; OBEY THE GODDESS OF WAR |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. The Iron Maiden? ... Maggie Thatcher, "The Iron Lady," is HRC's stated heroine. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
20. "All options?" "Table?" |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. Maybe she should take up quail hungitng to prove her toughness and invite Obama. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
24. His position is no different than hers despite your lame attempt |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Which Part of "Massive Retaliation" and "Totally Obliterate" Didn't You Understand? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. The part where you twist her words |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. You seem to be kinda...bitter...about her words being twisted, Jim. nt |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Well then why is she criticizing him? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Because this is a political race? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. you just said there is no difference... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I think you are just playing dumb, I don't have time for that really. nt |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. typical. no answer.. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. Two questions, if you have the time... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Use what? A long standing policy of our government? Shocking I tell ya! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. It's not the policy itself that I have issue with, per se. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Just to recount what I believe was said |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Actually she said she would. She said she hoped it would be a |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. Oh, I KNOW we could find comments from Obama as well. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. You don't have a problem with the policy per se? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Well, I do have a problem with it, but it was tangential to the point I was going for. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Pandering to people who want nuclear war is now acceptable? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Ridiculous charge, I'm wasting my time clearly. nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. it seems it is |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. huh . "thoughtfulness" Yes, she has none. She only knows reactionism. |
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aaroh (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
40. Can't see how Kucinich can endorse HIllary now |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
74. I don't believe Dennis will endorse either candidate |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. If I believed her, I would be more upset. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. ! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
60. She WON'T rule out nuking civilians? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
66. she has`t heard of moab? |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
78. Sad what supporting Clinton does to otherwise proud progressives. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
79. I am full of rage after reading this |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
80. Sounds like Republican rhetoric. Afraid she needs to appear tough, so she pulls out the nuke option. |
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