"Can't close the deal" could be the stupidest talking point

[edhopper]

yet, picked up by the MSM. If Obama ends up with the most delegates and the most popular votes, he "closed the deal". Idiots

[randr]

1. "Can't raise the dough" will be the Clinton epitaph

[depakid]

2. Fact is he DIDN'T close the deal

and lost a state that Democrats have to win in November by a convincing margin- and also failed to win over key constituencies.

I don't know what else you can call that.

[ClassWarrior]

10. Dems pulled in more than FIVE TIMES the voters that Gramps did. So why...

...wouldn't we win that state after Obama's been officially declared the nominee and the Party has united behind him?

:shrug:

Doesn't make any sense.

NGU.

[depakid]

13. That wasn't a competitive race (unless maybe you like Ron Paul)

It's not so much losing the state that concerns me- its losing in some of the districts by 75% to 25%.

I surely didn't expect to see that much of a spread.

[ClassWarrior]

14. We earned just as huge margins even when Mittens and Huckleberry...

...were still in the race. That's what I'm sayin'.

:shrug:

NGU.

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[walldude]

4. Can you explain how if he "can't close the deal"

why you would think she is better since she is actually, at this moment, losing. I'm not talking about fuzzy math or counting states that aren't going to be counted. I'm talking about the actual numbers and facts, at this moment, she is behind. If he can't close the deal what does that make her since she is losing to the guy who can't close the deal?

[frylock]

6. fuckin-a right..

what the hell happened to the smart people around here? so he can't "close the deal" against an establisment dem who is garnering the votes of ignorant seniors basing said votes on bill clinton's tenure. newsflash: HE'LL BE RUNNING AGAINST A REPUB IN THE GE YOU FUCKING RUBES!!!

[lutefisk]

5. It's odd to hear Clinton, Limbaugh, & Hannity all use the same talking point

They are big cheerleaders for Clinton at the moment, but they'll turn on her like rabid dogs once she secures the nomination.

[frylock]

8. not really odd at all

[lutefisk]

17. how cynical...and true...n/t

[sniffa]

9. Don't forget Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough

[AlCzervik]

11. well that's the plan, nothing is better for rw hate radio biz more than The Clintons.

fair or unfair that's the truth.

[lutefisk]

16. how true- rw radio doesn't talk about the rw much, do they...n/t

[Dr Fate]

12. Many in her tenous "working class" base will turn on her too.

We just saw how easy it was for Hillary/Mccain/media to convince the "working class" (AKA white voters, no black folks need apply)that Obama is a terrorist, unpatriotic racist...

Just think how easy it will be for McCain/media to get those same folks to turn on Hillary over similar issues. Hell- all you gotta do is lie to them.

[lutefisk]

15. "Hell- all you gotta do is lie to them" . . .yep, it works like a charm

Really pretty simple- many a vacuum cleaner and used car have been sold using this time-proven technique. All you have to do is sell your soul and you can accomplish so much in direct sales and politics.

Rove, Cheney, Bush accomplished so much over the past 7 years with this strategy. I get a sick feeling when I hear a Democrat doing it...

[grantcart]

7. he can't raise any money either

[mmonk]

18. How about "she can't catch up"?

That would be my media choice to say.

[Patsy Stone]

19. Worse:

Even if they were considered to be 50-50, wouldn't that mean she can't either?