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Wed Apr-23-08 05:58 PM
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The Media Created "Delusion" That Hillary Can Win |
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YouTube--> It's the numbers, stupid! That's all. There doesn't have to be more. You either accept it or you don't but that doesn't change the reality of the situation. PB
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:17 PM
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1. Yes - but Clintons have known this fact, too, and continuing the battle has been as cynical a move |
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as I've ever seen. It only hurts the Dem nominee and down ticket races and helps inoculate McCain and the smears to come.
Hillary2012. They've been on that campaign since day after Super Tuesday. They know exactly what they're doing.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:59 PM
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8. Yep, no dummies there - but Dean & the progressives got in the way |
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Just think how easy it may have been if Terry McAuliffe was still the DNC Chair.
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:40 PM
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23. Dean & the progressives |
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:39 PM
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22. Well, if that happened to be the case, you know who would wipe the floor with her. |
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And, I would enjoy every moment of it.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:21 PM
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2. The mission of the DLC has been the same from day one |
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Undermine the Democratic party always, and infiltrate it when possible. Which means you either elect DLC fake Dems, or let the Republicans win. Either keeps real Democrats out of office.
It's been obvious to anyone who has paid attention since 2000, but never more so than during this campaign.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:37 PM
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3. Too bad it was the DLC-haters that gave us two terms of Bush-Cheney |
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back in 2000 when they cut Al Gore's legs out from under him. 'Six-of-one, half-a-dozen' evil, Dem-hating-leftists, and voila, hundreds of thousands dead in the middle east! The blood is all on Dem-hating-leftist hands.
Thanks DLC-hating assholes! You rule, in your own politically-infantile minds.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:45 PM
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4. Absolutely wrong as usual, my 'puke-lite friend |
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The DLC sabotaged Gore's campaign, first by insisting he take on Holy Joe as a running mate to "balance" the ticket, and then restricting him to the bland persona which was characterized as "stiff" and "wooden" by the media whores.
That, and the wholesale theft of Florida is what allowed the 2000 election to be stolen. Not a small number of Naderites.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:52 PM
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12. Too bad the actual numbers prove you wrong |
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:43 PM
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25. I'm sure you have those numbers handy, now dontcha, Sparkey?? |
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:55 PM
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7. The DLC supported the Invasion and Occupatiuon of Iraq. |
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Your logic is tortured, and I'm against torture, though the DLC supports it, so I guess you are consistent.
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Tactical Progressive
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:58 PM
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14. The DLC-haters giving us GWB in 2000 was the first torture |
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All other tortures flowed from that.
The DLC did what they could to stop the Publican juggernaut that DHL's put in power for the better part of a decade.
Dem-hating-leftists have never taken credit for the abomination that they perpetrated on the Democratic party and the world, but the blood will always be there on their hands no matter how much they pretend it's not.
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Wed Apr-23-08 10:48 PM
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The blood of the WAR is on the hands of those who opposed the WAR.
Right.
I see.
That makes perfect sense.
<backing away slowly>
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Tactical Progressive
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:19 AM
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26. You see almost nothing |
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The blood of the war is on the hands of those who gave the warmongers the power to start it.
That happened in 2000, when Democrat-hating-leftists swung the election to Bush and Cheney, nationwide and in Florida. After that the Iraq invasion was a done deal. Nothing Hillary or any Dem could have done after DLC-haters put us in hell. Course, then it was time for the DHL's to come out screaming that it was everyone else's fault but their's.
It's like you understand absolutely nothing about politics.
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:01 PM
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19. Dem-hating-leftists have never taken credit for the abomination that they perpetrated on the Democra |
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Dem-hating-leftists have never taken credit for the abomination that they perpetrated on the Democratic party and the world...?
Wha'?
Whadda ya mean by that?
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:42 PM
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24. Do you actually use the RNC stationary or do you use the generic stuff?? |
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:21 AM
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27. Do you actually think you're witty, clifford? |
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 AM
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28. Nope, just asking a simple question. |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:32 AM by cliffordu
In fact, I'd say you know nothing about being progressive or tactics of any shape.
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:45 PM
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5. To Clinton supporters, if it ain't Clinton, then it's NO Democrat. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 06:47 PM
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6. Per MSNBC - the only way Hillary can win ----- |
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Pray something horrible about Obama surfaces. :eyes:
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:03 PM
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10. And even then...I mean the margins she would have to win by might not... |
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...even be possible then.
PB
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Wed Apr-23-08 09:02 PM
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15. Isn't the irony amazing? |
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That's exactly the "strategery" the Repukes tried to use against Clinton in 1992.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:01 PM
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9. For clarification, there was a Clinton supporter in another thread who... |
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...honestly seemed to know very little about the delegate situation and it kind of made me wonder if there were lurkers who were rooting for Clinton but genuinely had no clue that the race is, barring meteorite strike, over.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:22 PM
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and was quite surprised that Jack Cafferty took on all comers saying that it was a complete farce and that Hillary had no chance to win the nomination.
When Blitzer tried to repeat the normal dribel he just laughed them off and he had all the right numbers too.
Tobin was pretty good too but he said there was a 'theoretical possibility' that Clinton could get it.
Cafferty wouldn't give an inch and said slowly but clearly that "no the Democratic Party is not going to tear away the nomination from a well qualified African American candidate - its just not going to happen".
Kind of surprising when Jack Cafferty is the best informed political pundit on MSM.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:55 PM
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13. Thanks for the information- I'd only heard a sliver about today on CNN. |
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Ok, so Tweety now Cafferty. That's two. And they won't be the last. Frankly, I'm surprised that it was Tweety on MSNBC to put such a fine point on the issue as he did. I would have expected Olbermann, but then again, I'm just watching a snippet and didn't watch the whole evening/show.
Thanks again and spread the word!
PB
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Wed Apr-23-08 09:05 PM
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16. It bothers me that Scarborough and Buchanan are covering this. |
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I havening a huge problem with 2 right wing operatives coming a Democratic primary race. Isn't it odd that 2 conservatives are the only 2 that seem to be hyping Hillary's chances on their respective shows.
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Wed Apr-23-08 10:22 PM
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17. Well, they really DO want Hillary to run against enfeebled McCain. |
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It's not a guarantee that he'd still win. Hell, I'm honestly not sure that McCain will LIVE to see the election, he looks to be in terrible shape. But that aside, Scarb. and Buch. can barely keep a straight face, but they manage to at least when they're on MSNBC (not FOX).
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:21 PM
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Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 11:21 PM by Scurrilous
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Wed Apr-23-08 11:24 PM
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21. The MSM have kept the Clinton campagin on life support with their spin. |
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