what part of "Murdoch and Richard Mellon-Sciafe endorsed" do her supporters not get???

[Capn Sunshine]

I haven't heard a reasonable explanation from Hillary supporters that explains how they can purposefully ignore the support of these scions of the right wing.

I hate to repeat myself, but this fact is just mind-boggling.

How could the two pinnacles and vanguards of right wing media, each responsible in their own way for the erosion of our Democracy these past 14 years,

HOW COULD THE ENDORSEMENT OF THESE MEN AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS -AND IT'S MEANING- GO OVER YOUR HEADS??

Is WINNING more important than the ultimate result of this unholy alliance?
How can you expect it to be anything but the status quo third Bush term these evil groups hope for?

[BuyingThyme]

1. Those guys support change.

Hillary's all about change.

[XemaSab]

3. Change from the frying pan to the fire?

:shrug:

[RC]

5. Change? You mean as in lots of loose change?

Hillary seems to be more about the statue quo. i.e., More war all the time.

[Cant trust em]

7. Loose change? The Clintons are worth about 436,000,000 quarters. NT

[BootinUp]

2. Like there aren't DINOs and even Repukes who haven't

praised or endorsed the big O. Give me a break.

[Raine]

9. None that accused him of murder

the way those endorsers accused Hillary.

[BootinUp]

10. It says nothing about Hillary. nt

[thunder rising]

14. Watch the Billary team in action. Terry McAuliffe praises Fox News for praising Hillary Clinton

That says all there is to say about Billary.

Terry McAuliffe praises Fox News for praising Hillary Clinton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbJVkIzKq64

[Raine]

15. No, it doesn't but

it's creepy and makes me wonder what the hell their "game" is and why they are butting into a Democratic Primary.

[Capn Sunshine]

26. You don't think Hillary's acceptance of this support says something?

That's just naive beyond belief.

[BootinUp]

31. Please show me what you mean

by acceptance, and save the insults for afterward.

[Capn Sunshine]

32. I mean her acceptance of support from them, or absent that her repudiation of them

Do I have to steal your crayons and draw you a picture?

[BootinUp]

34. Please don't draw a picture

I don't want to share your imaginings. Just provide some facts to back up "acceptance"

[bvar22]

37. Hillary "went" to Scaiffe, hat in hand.

Scaiffe commanded her presence....Hillary responded.

Nuff said.

[Capn Sunshine]

19. Not even close and you know it- these guys are NOT Pols- they are evil

to compare a DINO covering his ass by endorsing Obama to Richard Mellon-Scaife, financier of all that is evil in the right wing, is just childish

[lisa58]

4. they just WANT it soooooo bad

[Cant trust em]

6. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

That's the best excuse I could come up with.

[Liberal Gramma]

8. My take on it:

I think they know they're going to lose. A loss to Hillary doesn't change their positions of power. A loss to Obama does. They will do anything to keep Obama from winning.

[Capn Sunshine]

21. pretty good take

The R's ran a Sciafe-financed attack ad on Obama today in NC

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. I know that Murdoch's NY paper, The Post, endorsed Obama

What Murdoch endorsement are you referring to?

[Shakespeare]

16. He's talking about Murdoch, the individual.

Held a big fundraiser for Hillary.

[Tom Rinaldo]

27. Then it's a bogus assertion

That was a long time ago when no one on Earth gave the Republicans a chance of winning in 2008 given how the Iraq slaughter was in the headlines every day, and hardly anyone thought Clinton would not win if she ran.

Much more recently the newspaper Murdoch owns and controls (and you bet your ass Murdoch controls the editorial policy for a Presidential endorsement at a newspaper he owns) endorsed Barack Obama over Hillray Clinton. I'm not trying to make any anti Obama claims because of that, but it is hogwash to now say that Murdoch endorsed Clinton.

[Capn Sunshine]

33. he threw her a fundariser and she took the money

He intro'd her to his entire circle of high end movers. Disingenuousness doesn't help here TR. Or is it denial?

[Tom Rinaldo]

36. Smart Capitalists play both sides when power is about to shift

Murdoch warmed up to Labor in England when he had to also. At the time it looked like Hillary was our next President.

Look, this one has a very clear "paper trail". Murdoch's rag, the New York Post, endorsed Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton for President. Not to even mention that was disingenuousness.

[Aloha Spirit]

12. This demonstrates that Hillary is able to reach across the aisle

and sell us out.

[Capn Sunshine]

22. LOL!

kind of like IWR huh?

[JoFerret]

13. Murdoch endorsed Obama

via the NY Post. Of course we all know that will switch to McCain later.

[BlooInBloo]

17. And McAulliffe promotes Fox News. It's clear: Clinton supporters do not support Democrats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbJVkIzKq64

[Nia Zuri]

18. I think many of her supporters are kind of clueless

I'm not trying to be mean, but moe and more they come off as naive, gullible, unsophisticated and kind of silly. I don't think they really get the full picture of what's going on in this country and what's truly at steake. For many it's as simple as "the woman vs. the black guy". It's kind of like "our team vs. their team". They just don't get it.

[Capn Sunshine]

25. would that were not true

There's a couple of pro-Hill posters here that I respect, but they just skip over this nattering detail

[joeybee12]

20. How about Murdoch's daughter, Sam Nunn, that 2004 pioneer for Bush...

...whose name escapes me...all supporting Obama...oh and Tricky Dick's daughter. What don't you get about that?

[Capn Sunshine]

23. well, what I DO get is

the people you mentioned are not actively financing the RW Noise machine.
Are you that naive?

[joeybee12]

28. No, I just think you need to realize both have supporters who

probably turn your stomach...the NY Post endorsed Obama, there's your noise machine.

[Aloha Spirit]

29. I see your point but these are people that she's actually sat down with and had private discussions.

[Capn Sunshine]

35. The Post is not Faux News, or Hannity ,Or Limbaugh, or National Review

You think that it is?

You guys are in an incredible state of denial.

As I suspected when I posited the OP

[AtomicKitten]

24. By any means necessary is their creed and they ain't kidding.

Hillary is officially a de facto Republican.

[MadHound]

30. Murdoch, Scaife, Rush, Coulter,

The list of rabid right wingers goes on and on. Listening to the radio yesterday on the way in, and heard about the "thousands and thousands" of Republicans who had ditched their party affiliation in PA to switch over to Democratic and vote in the primary. I'll give you one clue as who they voted for, and it begins with an "H":think:

The conservative element in this country is desperate for Hillary to win, because they know that she is the weakest candidate of the group. They know that the name Clinton will rally their base and bring their voters out to vote for any Republican running against her. They know that independents will for McCain over Hillary in large numbers, and they know that many Democrats will either vote McCain, go Green, or stay home rather than vote for Hillary.

This is why the right wing is pushing Hillary, yet her supporters seem to think that it's some sort of sign of her appeal:eyes: Suckers, one and all if they believe that. They watched Bill get railroaded by these selfsame people back in the nineties, but now think that they want to play nice:rofl: Sometimes it becomes obvious that Hillary supporters have a lower education level than Obama supporters, and this is one of them. Falling for this sort of crap:eyes:

[knixphan]

38. sadly, yes.