Obama people: Quit Pretending Your Guy Didn't Get Reamed In PA

[Austinitis]

There seem to be a lot of strange meme floating around in the Obama camp. I hear a lot of people saying stuff like "we cut back her lead on her home turf!"

So let's have everyone take a look at the RCP graph of all the polling data in PA:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html#polls

By the time voters went to the polls yesterday, polling data from PA had been stagnant for weeks.

So tell me: What did Obama get out of those last two weeks? What did he get for all the time he personally spent there? What did all those volunteer hour mean? What did he buy with all of those millions and millions of dollars?

I'll tell you what he got: He got beat. Reamed, really.



So let's cut this meme off before it starts. Bullshit. Obama got pwned in Pennsylvania. And that's all he got.

[thunder rising]

1. Watch a little youtube: Terry McAuliffe praises Fox News for praising Hillary Clinton

It says all there is to say about team Billary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbJVkIzKq64

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Ten Fewer Delegates Is A Reaming?

When he's more than 100 ahead?

[JVS]

24. If that's a reaming, then what happened to Hillary when she lost 11 states by HUGE margins?

[stray cat]

3. And if he beats Hillary by double digits in NC it will be a blow out - or expected?

[EffieBlack]

I think you know the answer . . .

If Obama wins a state that he's expected to win - even when he wins by a huge double-digit margin - it doesn't count, because he was expected to win anyway.

If Obama wins a state with a large white population, it doesn't count because all those white people won't vote for him in the fall.

If Obama wins a state with a black population of more than 2%, it doesn't count because a lot of his votes came from black people and well, you know.

Got it?

[blm]

4. Austin - quit pretending it changed the math. That hasn't changed since Super Tuesday. Clintons know

it - they just don't care because they've been running their Hillary2012 campaign the last two months.

[bvar22]

57. The math has changed.

Hillary's disappointing 9 point "victory" has now made it mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for her to win enough pledged delegates to overtake Obama. She need to win ALL remaining states by OVER 30%.

Hillary LOST ground last night.

[gabeana]

5. No he didin't and you know it

keep telling yourself that Hillary is in a better position than she was before PA
Her threshold for victory just got higher

[Guaranteed]

6. What he got is that Clinton didn't do well enough to keep up.

By the numbers, since she's running out of primaries she's in even worse position now than she was before PA.

She flat-out had to do much, much better- like 65%.

[NanceGreggs]

7. Less than two months ago ...

... the polls had Hillary up by 20+ points over Obama in PA. (Some polls had her with a 25-point lead.)

She won by 9 points.

And that's your idea of Obama getting "reamed"?

Okay, mm hmm, whatever.

[gabeana]

8. Oh no Looks like KO

is going to call Hillary and people like you on the bullshit

calling the victory "smoke and mirrors"

[DemGa]

9. Obama couldn't buy PA

That doesn't say much for the "presumptive nominee."

[RazBerryBeret]

40. Obama didn't try to buy PA...

his was the campaign that DIDN'T pass out "walking around money" or "street money" remember?

[tabatha]

41. Actually, he did not pay street money

which would have helped him a lot.

No, he did not try to "buy" PA.

Just spent an appropriate amount of money he raised without owing anybody.

He had more money than her because she has run a lousy campaign.

[XemaSab]

10. Sorry, 8 points is not a reaming.

Losing by 62 points is a REAMING. :D

[AtomicKitten]

11. Quit pretending she had a monster win when she didn't break out of single digits.

That 12-delegate bump she got will be erased right quick and in a hurry in North Carolina.

Stick a fork in her because she's done. Otherwise, by all means continue to secure her status as a pariah in the party. That's the silver lining of all this mess, and that works for me too.

[ShortnFiery]

12. What disgusting terminology! If we said that about your heroine we'd be labeled "sexist"

REAMED?!? :wtf: is the matter with your sensibilities?

Why is everything "a cage match" or "sexual power" with you?

Sicko! :puke:

[Catch22Dem]

14. Are you being serious?

I'm a stalwart Obama supporter, but your post is a little weird.

[ShortnFiery]

19. Oh come on! The terms used are vicious and sexually explicit - it's sick.

This is a political campaign not all out WARFARE.

The terminology is getting psychologically disturbing and would keep a handful of psychotherapists busy for days. ;)

[Exilednight]

21. reamed is sexist. n/t

[asthmaticeog]

54. Thanks for the heads-up - I'm going to go give my citrus reamer a good harsh scolding now.

God, it even has the temerity to almost kind of vaguely resemble boy-parts -- fluted, stainless boy-parts. THE HORROR!

[cali]

13. I posted on Saturday that I thought he'd get beaten by at least 12

it would have been great if he'd kept it to 6 or 7, but sorry hillbot, 9 is not a reaming. She had a solid win, but she's still fucked, dear.

[gcomeau]

15. Keep talking.

Obama spent $9 million and a few weeks of campaign time to turn a 25 point deficit into a 10 point deficit and blunt any benefit Clinton got out of her VERY LAST "firewall" state.

Clinton on the other hand has spent over $150 million and 6 months campaigning all across the country to turn a 20 point national lead over Obama into a 10 point deficit, while having her own support fall four points in absolute terms... during a time in which most of the field has dropped out and that alone should have let her pick up at least some support from backers of no longer running candidates switching their picks... but it didn't because they basically ALL went Obama.

Obama: $9M and a few weeks for a large gain in a big state.

Clinton: $150 million and 6 months to blow a 20 point lead and fall behind by 10 across the entire country while losing support in absolute terms as well.

Keep telling yourself Obama is the one not doing well. We'll be over here in reality when you're finished and would like to join us.

[sniffa]

23. Last "firewall" state, my ass

Meet me in Puerto Rico and let's have a debate!

[gcomeau]

25. I would sarcastically respond to that...

...but it parodies itself really. I've got nowhere left to go! :)

[gcomeau]

26. Dupe -nt

[Erin Elizabeth]

30. Why do you insist on disenfranchising Guamians?

:hi:

[tabatha]

44. I have heard Puerto Rico is not happy with her.

[madrchsod]

66. i read that they hate obama

and she will take all the delegates from a Puerto Rico......i read that right here at du

[Raine]

16. Ok, she "won" the battle but she lost the war

she's done, finished, she's not getting the nomination. The numbers are against her.

[MrSlayer]

17. Losing by 8 when you were down by 25 as late as 4/12 is a good showing.

Getting owned is losing by 20 or more. But you go on thinking that this contest is still continuing and that Hillary still has a chance. Delude yourself all you like as long as you pull the D lever for Obama in November.

[Exilednight]

18. She lost 16 points in seven weeks. That's more than 2 points a week and if Hillary was a tougher

candidate she would have extended her lead instead of having it cut into.

[Arkana]

20. He got beat.

That's it.

And your candidate failed to capitalize on what was a golden opportunity for her to make a real gain in the delegate count. What'd she get--10 whole delegates?

[dancingme]

22. old white bigots voted for Hillary

that's what happened.

[Erin Elizabeth]

27. I thought your girl was supposed to win by 20% or more.

What happened to that?

Oh yeah, he closed that up by more than half, LOL.

And do you realize Pennsylvania is one state? Are you guys so desperate for a single win that you need to make a big deal out of an eight point win?

Well, ok then. Have fun with that! :hi:

(Obama will be the nominee. Already is, really. Sorry.)

[NewHampshireDem]

28. pwned?

Now I get it ... you're that 12 year old who talks shit all the time on Counter Strike!

I KNEW I knew you from somewhere.

Does your mom know what you're up to?

[JimGinPA]

29. Scoreboard 30-14...

And the debts from other contests still haven't been paid.

[book_worm]

31. I said all along anything under double digits is a Obama win

and it's under double-digits.

[ClassWarrior]

32. Hmmm... registered less than a month ago. Doesn't take some people long...

...to show up, open their gaping maws, and start spewing filth.

:hi: Welcome to DU.

NGU.

[Butch350]

33. It depends on what reamed means...

Ah..9 points does not make one reamed.

[MadHound]

34. Only if you Hillary people quit believing that she has any sort of chance

Because even though she won by almost double digits, the fact of the matter is that she is still behind by over 130 delegates, she's still behind by a half million in the popular vote, she's still deep in debt, she's still going to lose in NC, SD, and OR, and quite possibly IN. Meanwhile she still has to win with 68% in each and every primary contest from here on out, and you know what, it just isn't going to happen.

When Hillary supporters admit that, then we can talk.

[Dr Fate]

35. I predicted Hill would win by a few points.

Why should I pretend like this is some huge suprise or upset for your benefit?

[rainbow4321]

36. HRC has spent her last few dimes in the past 6 weeks

She has no money for the rest of the states. She did herself in and all Obama had to do was sit back and watch.

There is a reason she was charging people 10 bucks a head to get into her rally the night before the election, a reason her faux victory speech was all "please send money". and a reason the mass email that the MSNBC anchor got on his blackberry sent from the HRC camp was "keep the momentum going, donate $5 to HRC now".
No doubt she had no idea that de$perate sounding email was going to be be put on the airwaves last night. Bet they nearly died when they heard it talked about. I imagine they are sifting thru their listserv list as we speak to delete any further hints of desperation being publicly announced.

[TheDoorbellRang]

37. Boy, you've been a little ray of sunshine since you joined us three weeks ago

Thanks for making GD-P just that much more special. :*

[Orsino]

38. A win is a win...

...but it is also true that he cut her lead in two in a Clinton stronghold. That's what he got for the time and money.

These are not just memes. Both Clinton and Obama can honestly claim victories in Pennsylvania--just not the same victories.

[Leftist Agitator]

39. Hillary people: Quit pretending your gal has chance to win the nomination.

She doesn't. Get over it.

[cascadiance]

42. She needs to win a greater percentage of remaining delegates NOW than before! That is NOT a win...

... if she wants to win by numbers of pledged delegates, which is becoming increasingly impossible for her to do as we get closer to the end.

She might want to be the leader of the "Anti-Democratic Party", but if the party morphs into that by selecting her and overriding the will of the voters, that's what we'll be known as in the fall.

[JoFerret]

56. If you call her gal

is it OK for you to call Obama boy?

[cascadiance]

59. I think you responded to the wrong post...

[JoFerret]

63. I think I did.

Apologies.

[rocktivity]

43. Obama got EXACTLY what he needed out of PA

1) Enough of the vote to prevent Hillary from getting the 65% she needed in order to start catching up with him. Now she'll need 68% of the vote in ALL NINE of the remaining contests.

2) A big chunk of her campaign coffers. She bragged of how Obama lost though he outspent her, but that wasn't his fault--it's hard to avoid outspending someone who's ten million dollars in the hole!


:headbang:
rocknation

[kwenu]

45. Are you one of Hillary's uneducated demographics?

[bigwillq]

46. He only lost by 10 points

Hardly an ass beating, especially when Clinton was up much more than that a few weeks ago. Plus, Clinton needed to win by more in order to take a larger share of the delegates.

[Connie_Corleone]

47. She got 10 more delegates than Obama. Big deal.

It's the delegates, stupid.

Hillary can't catch up in pledged delegates.

[HooptieWagon]

48. As meaningless as a late TD when down by 21 pts.

HilLiary needs to win all remaining states by 80-20 margins, and she's bankrupt. She's just being a spiteful witch at this point.

[cliffordu]

49. Are you still here???

Howdy!!!

Have you posted anything of value yet, or is it still the same old crap????

:hurts:

[tbyg52]

50. I for one am not doing any "pretending"

The HRC campaign has that locked up....

[dano81818]

51. ok if you quit pretending that the only reason hllary is still in the race

is so she can raise $$ to pay off her campaign debts, the main creditor of which happens to be herself. what intrest rate is she paying herself again out of campaign funds again?

[IndependentDem]

52. This coming from the person that thinks Clinton's NEGATIVE attack strategy is commendable...

you are lame and give Clinton supporters a bad name.

[Orangepeel]

53. But Hillary says that candidates are SUPPOSED to win the states that border their home states

According to Keith. Hah!

[cascadiance]

62. Boy I guess Bush lost big time when he lost Connecticut and surrounding states...

... didn't he?

[Orangepeel]

65. Well, bush is an extreme case. He lost the whole country!

how many more days is it now?

[Warren Stupidity]

55. OK I'll stop pretending.

Obama's loss yesterday was a devastating blow to our chances for victory in november. Is that what you wanted to hear? Those are the facts. Are you happy with that?

[EFerrari]

58. What did he get? She's broke and now has less racetrack to catch up.

You asked. :hi:

[tekisui]

60. Hillary Turned a Corner!

Whatever.

[madrchsod]

67. and walked into the wall

[L0oniX]

61. Caught another Hillarat in my ignore net.

:evilfrown:

[Jed Dilligan]

64. Her gains were insignificant

The only reason they look significant is they represent a big change from the norm for this primary season.

[SeattleGirl]

68. Cutting Hilary's lead in the state in half is a reaming?

:rofl:

[zulchzulu]

69. Wow... so barely denting Obama's delegate lead and 8% win after being ahead by 25% is "reamed"?

I'm sure you'd agree that HRC having a 14-30 record isn't exactly a winning record. She LOST.

As for Obama, he HAS MONEY. HRC DOESN'T.

:rofl: