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Wed Apr-23-08 07:04 PM
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Do Clinton supporters have anything to say about republican attacks on Obama? |
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Specifically why republicans are targeting him before he's even the nominee? I mean, sure, you can say he's the presumptive nominee (though I'm not sure any Hillary supporters would say that) but why use all their material before he's even definitely their competition? I mean, if you've got all this stuff on him, why not wait until your dirt can win you the presidency?
I have my theories, but I want to hear the Clinton spin on this one. Why do republicans want to take Obama out in the democratic primary?
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:05 PM
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1. AND, why does the corporate media WANT Hillary to BE the nominee? |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:06 PM
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2. maybe you should ask the republicans who are really responsible for it nt |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:13 PM
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10. First of all, I don't know any of them. |
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Secondly, if I did I wouldn't particularly care to speak to them. Lastly, even if I did ask them and they did answer, I would probably be disinclined to believe them.
But I do know a lot of democrats on this board, some of whom support Clinton, and I'm specifically asking for their take. And here, for your sake, I'll ask the question more bluntly: Is there a way you can spin this to be anything other than the republicans trying to choose their general election opponent and choosing Hillary Clinton?
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:06 PM
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3. Yes, Terry McAuliffe says it very clearly!! |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:25 PM
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I had not seen that. I suppose I should thank you, but in a way I wish I could have remained ignorant of that one.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:07 PM
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4. They know Obama will massacre them. They mistakenly believe that they have a shot with Hillary. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:26 PM
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I actually hold that same viewpoint. Miracles and all that... :patriot:
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:07 PM
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asking hard questions that need to be answered.
just like that moron that assaulted Chelsea with that stupid question. Just vetting her mom was all.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:10 PM
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6. Why would vetting Obama be in the interest of republicans? |
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It would be in their interest to have him go into the general election unvetted. Therefore I'm afraid I have to say your answer makes no sense.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:11 PM
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7. No, they seem fine with the Scaife-Clinton unholy alliance from hell. |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:12 PM
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8. They need to get started as early as possible per the Lee Atwater strategy |
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defining Obama's character for the general in case he is the nominee. Hillary is already defined in the minds of the GOP. They can throw the oppo out at any time, But Obama is new, so it will take months for the GOP to "define" him for the GE. They have to start now or risk him defining himself so well that the RNC oppo this fall will not stick.
Yes, they risk changing the outcome of the primary, but I do not think they care whom they run against, The GOP can not imagine that they can beat either a woman or a Black.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:27 PM
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16. Best explanation so far. |
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Which isn't to say I believe it, but it's the best explanation I've heard so far. Personally, I think Occam's razor better supports "they want to run against Hillary" but I'm sure you disagree (which is fine).
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:13 PM
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9. I just speak for myself not Republicans. nt |
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Wed Apr-23-08 09:03 PM
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I'll speak for me, and say "republicans want to run against Hillary in the general." Do you, yourself have anything to say to that?
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:13 PM
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11. Did Obama supporters have anything to say about calling Hillary a Republican? Randi Rhodes? chirp |
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:23 PM
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12. That's democrat on democrat, and while ugly, to be expected during the dem primary |
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What's standing out as odd to me is the republicans, in an official capacity (i.e. not just some freeper on a message board) attacking one of our candidates before the nomination has been decided. Why is that in their interest if not to try to choose their opposition?
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:28 PM
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17. Republicans are not accusing Hillary of being a Republican-why would they do that? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 07:33 PM by Dr Fate
Makes no sense.
The problem is when Hillary agrees with the Republicans, not when DEMS disagree with conservative positions.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:26 PM
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14. Hold on a minute- what are the Republicans saying that Hillary is not already saying? |
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Shouldnt we characterize these as "Republican/Clinton attacks on Obama?"
What exactly is there that distinguishes the two?
But all kidding aside- you make a great point- why are the GOPers not carefully laying their snare traps and saving all this for the GE?
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:29 PM
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18. They want Democratic infighting AND since Obama is the likely nominee |
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it isn't too early to define him negatively with the public. It's a win win proposition for them, even if Clinton becomes the nominee, but they think it will more likely be Obama just like most of the world. I don't think they think they will take Obama out in the NC primary, just wound him.
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:39 PM
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19. No theory, but get ready for Rove to unleash the unthinkable on Obama. It's going |
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Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 07:39 PM by demo dutch
to be a blood bath. I'm sure you know he was behind the taking down of McCain in 2000 cincluding "black baby" thing in So Carolina
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Wed Apr-23-08 07:50 PM
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20. KO says Hillary remained silent on those ads |
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when asked for a response, MacCain condemned them. Of course we know that for MacCain it was really "wink wink nudge nudge" but at least he gave lip service, more than Hillary did. :-(
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Wed Apr-23-08 09:15 PM
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Playing that game is a waste of one's time and energy.
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