For Obama supporters - a discussion-

[jillan]

Since it came out last nite that there is a large majority of Clinton supporters that will not vote for Obama; and since all of you are pretty confident that Obama is going to be our nominee;
do you really think all of this constant bashing of Hillary and her supporters is going to help the cause? Do you really think it's going to turn Hillary supporters into Obama supporters? Do you think that it's possibly time to attract more bees with honey?

Maybe instead of telling us why you dislike Hillary, maybe you could tell us why we should warm up to Obama.

Obama's going to need us in November should he become the nominee.


(I will add that I will vote for either Dem in the GE. I like Obama, just like Hillary better.)

Okay - I'm going to sit back and let you respond.... :popcorn:

[johnnydrama]

1. I don't believe those figures

First of all, the figures the other way are almost as close. Where's your post on Hillary supporters bashing Obama?

Second, those figures aren't real. That's just the heat of the primary talking.

[Mags]

2. don't you know by now that her supporters will vote for him, but

he doesn't know about his supporters. It's pretty quiet in here. Besides, Michelle will really have to think about supporting Hillary.

[book_worm]

11. the polls tell a diffrent story, Mags.

More Hillary supporters won't vote for the Dem nominee if it's Obama than Obama supporters.

[Mags]

25. I can understand that, they have been listening to his supporters

who degrade her in every way.

[TheDoorbellRang]

22. See, I think that's an example of something twisted out of context

That bit about Michelle not supporting Clinton. This is the question she was asked:

Roberts: "Could you see yourself working to support Hillary Clinton if she gets the nomination?"

Obama: "I'd have to think about that. I'd have to think about policies, her approach, her tone."

I saw the question as asking Michelle if she'd actively campaign on Hillary's behalf. Of course that's not how it's been spun. I agree she could have answered it with more tact, but sometimes stuff happens. :shrug:

I think there is stuff said or done on both sides that supporters are quick to denounce or defend that is really just piddly silly stuff -- like Clinton's "as far as I know" remark.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

3. Let me get you a beer. Shoe shine while I'm on my knees?

:eyes:

[jillan]

5. Lol !

How are you at shining sandals?

[phillysuse]

4. If you are a Hillary supporter and are against the War in Iraq

then I don't see how you can support McCain and his 100 years of war.

If you care about ending the War in Iraq and if Obama is the nominee, there is no other choice but Obama.

Otherwise, you don't really care about whether the war goes on and whether we throw away money that could be used for health care, education, the environment, rebuilding infrastructure, preventing foreclosure or anything else you think is important here.

[jillan]

6. Personally, I would never vote for McCain....but from what I heard last nite

there are people out there that would rather vote for him than Obama.

[phillysuse]

16. Those people are either racists or war mongers

or both.

Anyone who is against this war cannot in good conscience support McCain.

[sandnsea]

7. Yeah while we're busy with the honey

Hillary will run off with the hive. Sorry, anybody who is still supporting her is either not paying attention, paid, or a fool. Or Morally Bankrupt.

[Madam Mossfern]

8. That's an interesting request

As a mature individual who happens to support Obama, I realized that Hillary just may pull off the democratic nomination. I took it upon MYSELF to look at point about Hillary that would help me feel more enthusiastic about voting for Hillary. I think that you may want to do the research yourself rather than rely on any of us "objectionable" Obama supporters.

[jillan]

12. Thom Hartmann took up this issue today.

He had Obama supporters call in and give what he called "a sunshine speech" about Hillary, and
vice versa.

[Exilednight]

9. That poll has only been conducted in two states, and is not a reflection of the whole country. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

10. Just like with the Dixiecrats, I'm *fine* with party realignment...

... I'll be long dead before I pander to *that* group of people.

[Two Americas]

28. agreed

You and I probably favor a different faction, but I agree with you that there is a deep split in the party - that split is not going to heal, as it is getting worse and is based on real differences - and that realignment is overdue and inevitable.

I see three factions, not two. I am opposed to both factions that are currently battling it out with each other.

[book_worm]

13. I think both candidates supporters could cool it a bit

it's not like it's only Obama supporters here who are disruptive and insulting.

[jillan]

15. I agree - I'm just referring to the figures that came out last nite.

[anonymous171]

14. Well, I think those statistics are probably skewed by the Limbaughcrats

[malta blue]

17. A tale from PA...

The young man approached the delapidated house where the homeowner sat on the porch.

Young man says "Hi, I'm xx from the Barack Obama campaign"

Homeowner says "Get out. I won't vote for a black man"

Young man leaves - saddened by his realization that so little has changed......

This is a true story from this past weekend in PA.

I can't really answer your question, but I wanted to share this tale.....

[Raine]

18. If someone isn't smart enough to vote for THEIR OWN interests

playing nice with them to get their support is pointless.

[JFN1]

19. If Clinton supporters are so small and petty and selfish

that they will put their personal feelings towards other DUers AHEAD of the NEEDS of the country, then it does not really matter who they vote for in November.

Our country is already lost.

[MadBadger]

20. While I think you are semi-reasonable(lol), there are many on DU that are not.

There is still going to be constant bashing of Obama and his supporters from the HRC people here as well. Until both sides get the other to stop, it wont.

[kentuck]

21. For every Democrat that votes for McCain...

Two Republicans will vote for Obama. I wouldn't worry about that.

[Ice-9]

23. Question

How do you know those Clinton "supporters" would vote for her if she were the nominee? Why won't they just vote for McCain? There are still a lot of Reagan Democrats out there, especially among the older voters who form Clinton's base. (Anyone old enough to vote for Reagan in 1980 would be at least 46 today, non?) You seem to assume that those voters who pulled the lever for Clinton in the Clinton-Obama matchup wouldn't pull it for McCain in a Clinton-McCain matchup -- but maybe the only reason they haven't been voting for McCain thus far is that McCain is not an option in the Democratic primary.

The point of all of this is that Obama supporters may not need to worry about those voters. Clinton's just their sloppy seconds; their real preference is McCain. Since they're going to vote for McCain regardless of who the nominee is, why do Obama and his supporters have to try to win them over?

:shrug:

[tishaLA]

24. "a large majority"?

where did you get that statistic? I have seen, at most, something like 40% of Clinton supporters saying they wouldn't support Sen Obama, and that, while high, is not a majority.

[barack the house]

26. Here you just bought some lovely fresh honey anything else you need just ask.=)

[barack the house]

27. Here you go, just bought some lovely fresh honey anything else you need just ask.=)

[BornBlue]

29. Why I support Barack Obama

This may come as a surprise to some people, but I am not an Obama cultist. I am fully willing to admit he is not perfect. He has made mistakes. I am willing to look past these, just like supporters of other politicians, past present and future. Candidates have to pander to the people to get elected, unfortunately that is the truth. For all of its greatness this country is too big, with too many different opinions. The age old saying you can't please all the people all the time.

The first reason I have given him my support, vote and money is because of hope. Not the false hope that has perverted this campaign. My hope is for the American people, that they will wake up and pay attention. Like him or not, Barack Obama is doing this. He is moving and motivating the youth to take interest in this campaign. To me this is a good thing. We will probably never get these so-called Reagan democrats back, so we need to expand the base.


I also have hope that Barack will inspire voters to elect leaders that have their best interest at heart, not the corporations. We have let the lobbyist and politicians steal this country from its rightful owners, us and it is about time we took it back. It is time we say NO to lobbyists buying policy, and demand accountability from the people WE elect. I cannot guarantee that Obama will keep all or any of his campaign promises, but I also cannot say that he wont. After 4 years if he has failed us, we can elect someone else, that is the democratic way. Besides can it really get any worse?

[Why Syzygy]

30. I've stopped bashing her supporters. Hers stops when she gets out if

she leaves while Obama is intact.

[EFerrari]

31. What a silly one sided proposition. You can either lead, follow

or get out of the way.