Can Clinton supporters agree that Obama has at least earned one of the two spots on the ticket?

[democrattotheend]

Unlike a lot of Obama supporters, I am not counting Senator Clinton out yet, and I think Obama needs to win Indiana and take her out rather than running out the clock and limping across the finish line. But given his virtually insurmountable delegate lead, I can't envision a scenario where she could get the nomination without putting him on the ticket, without risking an uproar in Denver and a split in the party.

Regardless of how the rest of the primaries turn out, I think most neutral observers would agree that Obama has run an incredible campaign, and gotten further than anyone expected him to. So can Clinton supporters agree that at the very least, he has earned a spot on the bottom of the ticket if she gets the nomination?

Note to Obama supporters: I'm not calling for him to drop out and take the VP slot by any stretch of the imagination. I just want to know if Clinton supporters will concede that at the very least he has earned the VP slot if not the top slot.

[maddiejoan]

1. FWIW

I think they both have.

[democrattotheend]

2. FWIW?

What's that stand for?

[anigbrowl]

5. 'For what it's worth'.

[maddiejoan]

6. For What It's Worth

;)

[democrattotheend]

20. Gotcha, thanks

[rzemanfl]

3. What a horrible hypothetical. A better one would be has

Hillary earned a spot on the GOP ticket?

[jkshaw]

4. He has earned the top spot

[azmouse]

7. It's silly to even talk of the Dem leader taking the VP spot.

Obama has won the right to the Presidential spot. Hillary hasn't earned a damn thing.

[aquarius dawning]

8. I think a lot of us were on board with this a long time ago

but, somewhere along the way, the game became spiteful and turned into a bitter hate fest. Now, I'm not sure the dream ticket is possible and that really does suck for all of us. Comments like " I don't want her anywhere near a Barack Obama ticket" were not helpful.

[thunder rising]

16. Yeah, he gets the top spot and his choice of VP gets the other ... that's cool

Terry McAuliffe praises Fox News for praising Hillary Clinton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbJVkIzKq64

[John Q. Citizen]

17. Only those who don't understand the basic concept of messaging were on board.

If you think Sen. Clinton is a liar, and when she said Obama isn't qualified, well then I suppose you might think it's OK if she put him her ticket, an unqualified(according to her) candidate a heart beat away from the presidency.

Or maybe people think Obama is a liar. When he says he wants change and a new politics, he's just saying that until he can stick Clinton on his ticket?

This has nothing to do with spiteful or bitter or hate. It has to do with whether voters believe the Dem nominee is credible or just talking bullshit.

Which do you think would attract more voters? Credible or bullshit?

[gcomeau]

9. Was about to make snarky comment...

...but am holding my tongue. Behold my willpower!

(for clarity: snarky comment was not to be directed at you, only an aspect of your scenario here)

[Tom Rinaldo]

29. Self Delete. Wrong placement n/t

[speedoo]

10. Obama has won the nomination.

(assuming the Party wants to survive, that is)

The numbers say Hillary is finished.

Who Obama's VP will be, no one knows.

But he will disappoint me greatly, and he will make an enourmous mistake, if he chooses Hillary.

[McCamy Taylor]

11. I am neutral and I support the Unity ticket which gets me no end of grief around here.

Sort of like being a member of some religion that no one tolerates.

[scheming daemons]

27. Because most people know that a Unity Ticket mean defeat in November....

[berni_mccoy]

30. Do not believe this statement. McCamy has been consistently supporting Hillary.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. Absolutely not. Putting both candidates on the ticket would be a sure way to lose the GE. Heavens,

why do people who obviously have no strategic experience in electoral politics think that their fantasy scenarios are somehow a good idea?

If Hill somehow wins (and I'm a solid Obama supporter, I can't see how she can)the last thing I would want is Obama on the ticket. I would prefer Hill win the GE than to ''make me feel better' and lose.

Same for Obama. When he gets to 2024 in June and then chooses his running mate at the convention in August, I hope the dreamers can refrain from fantasizing too much about putting his primary opponent on the ticket. That would be a sure road to defeat.

Neither has "earned' a spot on the others ticket. Thank Buddha!

[PoliticalAmazon]

13. Get out there and volunteer for Obama. You have too much time on your hands...

...if you can sit around dreaming up these cockamamie ideas.

[democrattotheend]

18. Just got back from 4 days in Philly

Took 2 days off work to volunteer for him. While I have made phone calls to places he has won, everywhere I have canvassed for him he has lost, so I think I might be a jinx. And I can't make phone calls right now because I have a neck injury and holding the phone hurts.

[PoliticalAmazon]

14. Deleted duplicate post

My bad. Sorry.

[B Calm]

15. He's already won the ticket. Hopefully he'll choose Edwards as his running mate!

[olkaz]

24. Never going to happen.

A. Edwards won't take it.

B. Edwards doesn't offer a new constituency.

[democrattotheend]

34. I like Edwards, but he's a bad choice for Obama

Thinner resume than Obama in terms of experience as a public official, and he doesn't bring a state or constituency with him. If he had so much appeal to white working class voters he'd have won Iowa. I like the idea of Edwards as AG, but he's a bad choice for VP, plus he doesn't want the VP slot.

[anonymous171]

19. I think eventually they're going to have to settle for a unity ticket.

[scheming daemons]

26. Then we'll have to settle for President McCain....

She's an anchor.

[johnnydrama]

21. Obama should reach out

To Hillary supporters and go for Clark for the VP.

Despite the state surrogates like Rendell or Bayh, Clark is her best national surrogate I believe.

[LWolf]

22. No.

But then, I'm not a supporter of Senator Clinton, although I may throw a vote her way next month.

Not because I want her to be the nominee. I don't.

Because I don't want either one of them, and I'd like to keep her in it long enough to force a brokered convention.

I don't want to see either one of these candidates anywhere on the ticket.

[democrattotheend]

23. Huh?

Do you want the Republicans to win or something? How do you propose keeping both of the remaining candidates off the ticket, when they are the only ones running?

[LWolf]

35. Here's how:

I want a candidate that can win, and a candidate that I think would be at least a decent president. And no, I don't want Republicans to win.

I don't believe either of these two can win in November, and, if they did, I don't think either will make a decent president.

So:

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=59...

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=405969&Category=1...

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/mar/24/mark-tomasik-don... /

http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/pap...

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/calli...

http://www.draftgore.com/newsroom_details.asp?id=988

[scheming daemons]

25. Sorry... no.... His message is wasted as a VP.... he's earned *THE* top spot.... not "one of them"

[democrattotheend]

28. I agree, but I was curious how Clinton supporters feel

After someone posted an insulting OP claiming that Clinton could clinch the nomination and appease Obama's supporters by offering him a cabinet post. I am curious if Clinton supporters agree that he has at least earned the VP slot if not the top slot.

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. Sure, if both of them agreed to it.

Both of these candidates are viable Presidential candidates, obviously they have what it takes to be on a national ticket

[Texas Hill Country]

32. i woulds say so

[lumberjack_jeff]

33. A better question is has the winner earned the right to pick their own runningmate?

I think we're in a situation here in which there are few good answers. Both candidates could be good nominees. One of them should become president. It may be prudent politics for the nominee to select the other for the #2 spot, but I think it's a bad frame to say they deserve it, because if they are not selected then it implies that they were robbed of something that belonged to them.