Chuck Todd Just Said He doesn't see Hillary even being able to win the Popular vote

[SunsetDreams]

He said it's all about the pledged delegates in a primary anyway.

Edited to add he said she has to win NC to make a dent in the pop vote
He also said that as it stands now she has to win the rest of the contests by 69%, after May 6th, it jumps to 85%

In the end she will lose the popular vote, the pledged delegates, states won, primaries and caucuses won.

He's outraised her, she's ran a crappy campaign compared to his brilliant one.

She's seriously in debt, with 10,000,000 owed to small businesses and Universities/college kids

Obama just has to ride it out!

[millionaire]

1. Does Chuck Todd ever say anything possitive about Hillary?

No.

[SunsetDreams]

3. yep he sure does, but he doesn't lie for her when it comes to Math

[City Lights]

9. He does...when there is something positive about Hillary to say. nt

[Medusa]

13. There's nothing positive to say about her

It's not Chuck Todd's fault he tells the truth about her.

[Yael]

21. The math isn't positive for Hillary

Can't spin that one.

[jkshaw]

23. To be fair, millionaire,

there isn't much positive there any more.

[Cha]

27. There's nothing "positive" about hilary..you know

that.

[sniffa]

40. You disrupted poorly

[EFerrari]

46. How do they figure it out so quickly?

:think:

[ScarletSniper]

48. Actually he does.

[ej510]

2. It doesn't matter because it's all about the delegates.

[Georgie_92]

4. Chuck knows his stuff!

[millionaire]

12. Yeah, just like he knew his stuff when he predicted Bush's approval would be 50% by July 4th, 2007

What a genius.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ1Hh7zn7tg

[SunsetDreams]

18. that doesn't involve Math, lol That's speculation...nice try :)

[anonymous171]

5. That hasn't stopped Clinton from fraudently claiming she has.

[MadBadger]

6. The most important thing he said was that she HAS to win NC or this is over.

[kentuck]

11. If she could hold Obama to a very small victory in NC...

She could conceivably still win the popular vote if she counts FL. And she does intend to count FL if it gives her more votes than Obama. Forget Party rules.

However, if Obama wins big in NC, it is most likely over as far as the popular vote is concerned. She will only have her "electoral vote" argument left.

[NorthCarolina]

34. Here in NC I see

Obama yard signs everywhere and with few exceptions everyone is talking about Obama and the negative campaign Hillary has been unleashing on him. NC has been hard hit by NAFTA, once the center of textile and furniture manufacturing virtually all the former mills are now closed or torn down. This transpired literally over the past 9 years or so and yes, Tarheels are VERY bitter about NAFTA and they sure as hell know who was on watch when it was implemented.

I cannot imagine anything other than a blow out for Clinton here. As an added bonus, unlike Ohio and PA, the greater portion of NC votes on paper ballots, and the electronic machines that remain in a few counties like Mecklenburg do incorporate a paper trail.

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&year=2008&state=North_Carolina

Many here are looking forward to NC being the State that puts the final nail in the Hillary campaign coffin. Our primary is so late in the season that nobody can remember the last time our primary votes actually made a difference, so there is tons of excitement.

[ampad]

7. He pretty much said it was over

While Chuck gets on my nerves I have to give him his props on the numbers.

[Mags]

8. Stop the presses, ChucK Todd has spoken and the election

is over. Yes, the MSM calls the shots. So Hillary Voters, just give it up. It's over. What a joke MSNBC is.

[wileedog]

39. Only you people could argue with numbers

Seriously, what is so hard to understand that she cannot win the PDs or popular vote, making it impossible for the SDs to justify in any way giving her the election?

[millionaire]

10. Here's a Todd prediction: Bush's approval will be 50% by July 4th, 2007

If Pelosi became speaker of the House. And so she did, and Bush's approval was around 30% by Todd's deadline.

That's how smart he is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ1Hh7zn7tg

[SunsetDreams]

15. That doesn't involve actual numbers, just speculation, nice try though

[millionaire]

24. Todd's prediction about popular vote involves speculation

Because he's assuming certain outcomes in the upcoming races. He's not too bright.

[SunsetDreams]

25. not when you consider that she has to win by

69% in the rest of the primaries, and after May 6th 85%.

It's over.

[ScarletSniper]

50. It's not just Todd banging out the truth about the numbers..just listen, its all around you

[sandnsea]

22. Pelosi didn't do anything polarizing

Look at McCain's numbers. If Pelosi had tried to end the war, or impeach, he would have been exactly right.

[City Lights]

14. He came right out and said if m$nbc called the entire primary the

way they do an individual state, m$nbc would have called it for Obama by now.

He's won it. Chuck Todd knows it. Keith Olbermann knows it. m$nbc knows it. Everyone knows it. Some are just in denial.

[Coexist]

37. yes, that is correct. He was really good tonight

lots of honesty.

I like him.

[bvar22]

41. Jack Cafferty (CNN) also knows it...

..and said it on the air tonight.

Cafferty also said there is NO WAY the Supers are going to "give" it to Hillary when Obama has won in ALL other metrics.

[City Lights]

43. I saw that down thread...good to know that Jack is on it too.

Lather, rinse, repeat until all other hosts/anchors get it. Keep going until the public gets it.

Maybe somewhere along the way, Hill will get it.

[goclark]

16. Hope he keeps his job ~ he talks like he is speaking the truth.

[book_worm]

17. Give her Florida and Obama still leads, give her Michigan where she's on ballot and he's not

and she takes the lead, but what about the 40% who voted uncommitted? give them to Obama (just to be fair)? and guess what? Obama is back in the lead in the popular vote. He then builds on it with big wins in NC and Oregon and other states. She won't take the popular vote either.

[Diane R]

19. He's just telling the truth. Sorry if it isn't 'positive' for Hillary.

[MissWaverly]

20. today, I heard people ranting about Bill Clinton

he's alienates more people every day, there is no way that Hill and Bill will get
the popular vote.

[SunsetDreams]

32. I keep hearing that more and more as well

It's sad because I know I thought the world of Bill Clinton, but I am seeing a side to him that I deplore.

[MissWaverly]

47. best possible scenario

Bill and Hill realize they are not the best possible solution for either the democratic party or the country, say they had 8 years
in the WH and are willing to let others serve for the best of dems & country. It really would be the noble thing to do, the Bush
family acts like the White House is their own private estate, now the Clintons are pulling the same thing, it's time that someone
else leads America, it's time for Obama.

[tinrobot]

26. Don't forget she was 20 points ahead in PA...

...and she was the odds-on favorite last fall.

Seems to me her trendline points downward.

[Barack_America]

28. So why the hell is the Dem leadership allowing this to go on? And our nominee to be trashed?

That's what I would like to know.

[SunsetDreams]

30. It will be over soon, the math has sunk in after PA

[grantcart]

29. Jack Cafferty of all people handed Blitzer and everyone their hat

today and simply said she had no chance of getting the nomination. He had the facts and the numbers too. It was pretty funny.

[SunsetDreams]

31. I missed it, I bet that was funny! I like him, he pulls no punches!

[ScarletSniper]

51. It was fantastic..Cafferty might as well had said just cut the shit...she's done! lol

[my3boyz]

33. Didn't he get the Clinton memo? She already won the popular vote!

:sarcasm:

[Condem]

35. Really?

[SunsetDreams]

36. yes really :)

[berni_mccoy]

38. SHE MUST WIN NC! HAHAHAHAHAH!

[SunsetDreams]

42. don't pop a button lol

[berni_mccoy]

44. Too Late!

[SunsetDreams]

45. ha ha ha

[Mags]

49. I guess God has spoken, it is over, give it to the Man.

[ScarletSniper]

52. No, the numbers have spoken...

[liberaldem4ever]

53. K & R!!

[quantass]

54. And that is why Hillary should drop out