Why Obama Really Lost Pennsylvania

[kpete]

Why Obama Really Lost Pennsylvania
by TocqueDeville
Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:56:49 PM PDT

Oh what a mystery. Pat Buchanan and many, many others just can't figure out how Obama could have spent so much money and not "closed the deal." Is there something wrong with him? We need to spend the next two weeks discussing it.

This is why Obama lost PA:



more at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/23/163723/303/468/501932

[anonymous171]

1. This is the reason:

[cliffordu]

2. THAT DOG DON'T HUNT

[DesertFlower]

6. i used to love bill. now i can't stand the

sight of him.

[Auntie Bush]

23. He can still park his shoes under my bed.

[DesertFlower]

38. a year ago i would have said that too. nt

[Auntie Bush]

40. Funny how our taste changes.

I don't like KO anymore and no longer watch him. I'd put his shoes in the trash can.

[DesertFlower]

42. i like KO, but my husband can't stand him.

now how about dan abrams? is he a hunk?

[Auntie Bush]

52. Kind of....

But not really my type. Now Paul Newman is something else...even in his old age. He's my all time, lifetime favorite.

[City Lights]

24. Ditto. Such a damn shame too.

Older and wiser I guess.

[EmilyAnne]

29. Rosacea? What does rosacea have to de with the PA primary?

[millionaire]

3. Now tell us how many states Hillary lost for the same reason

Many states, wouldn't you agree?

[joeybee12]

4. He lost because of Jon Stewart?????? n/t

[starmaker]

5. Don't forget the vote count

Both are necessary tools

[Olney Blue]

7. These are entertainers and pundits- not journalist for the most part.

I don't see Helen Thomas, and that's a good thing.

[HooptieWagon]

8. I heard on NPR this afternoon...

citing a PA exit poll: 16% of voters said race was a factor in their vote, 13% of voters said race was a major factor in their vote. That's a full 29% of PA Dems (over half of hillary's total) admitting they're racists. A shame... but not surprising.

[joeybee12]

9. Not really...they could have meant that race was a factor in that they

voted for Barry because they thought it was time for a black person to be Prez. There's no way to accurately tell if they just asked if race was a factor without a follow-up Why.

[HooptieWagon]

18. They overwhelmingly voted for Clinton.

[joeybee12]

20. I hadn't heard that...do you have a link?

Thanks.

[HooptieWagon]

28. Sorry, it was on local non-comm radio during news.

Pretty sure it was during NPR segment. Check their website.

[EmilyAnne]

16. After working on the Obama campaign in and around Pittsburgh for a month now,

that exit poll is not surprising at all. I have never in my life heard so many stupid, racist remarks in my entire life. This is the first campaign I have ever worked so hard for, so maybe this is just the way people are when it gets down to it. Still, I was absolutely shocked by the unbridled ignorance expressed by registered democrats that I spoke to. It was daily, it was almost constant and it has made me decide to start planning an out-of-state move.

If that's elitist, then someone, please, fix me a latte.

[East Liberty Denizen]

33. Other black Democrats have been successful in Pittsburgh

And not just in the African American communities. A number of black candidates have been successful in citywide and county races over the years.

I can't see how blaming them for Obama's failure to appeal to them is really that constructive.

[EmilyAnne]

51. Don't get me wrong about Pittsburgh. He won Pittsburgh and he overwhelmingly won my ward.

It was the pockets of blue collar whites in certain neighborhoods that I was talking about. Its one thing if Obama "doesn't appeal" to them. Its another thing if they call him a nigger or a raghead or say they won't vote for someone who won't salute the flag.

[Liberal Gramma]

36. Do you think there's a relationship between the level of racism and the age of the average voter?

Don't get me wrong--I don't think all older people are racists. But I do think it's more prevalent in my age group than it is in my children's age group and in my grandchildren's age group, it's rarely seen.

[goclark]

44. Come to CA, we'll fix you a latte ~ smiles

[kerry-is-my-prez]

45. If you think Dems are racist - then wait until you work with the Repubs.

About 95% of them are racist.

[Auntie Bush]

26. Do you also think race was a factor in Obama winning 90% of Blacks?

[HooptieWagon]

30. No more so than Hillary winning 90% of bitter old women.

[Auntie Bush]

37. What's that got to do with race?

You were the one discussing race. Do you have short term memory loss? Sheesh!

[Ice-9]

10. A lot of hairspray went into making that collage.

Well, not in Carville's case.

:D

[sandnsea]

11. Yep, they just lie lie lie

It's mindblowing when you see them all up there like that. Although I'm not sure why Olbermann, Maddow, Stewart and Schuster are up there - except to show how few there are on our side.

Why can't we organize a response like the one to the debate. That's what we need to do every time we hear them spewing talking points instead of facts.

[chimpymustgo]

15. About 80% of the national media are in the tank for Obama - some OPENLY admitting it.

MSNBC and Keith and Rachel spend their time on the air apologizing for Obama and attacking Clinton. I hope they look back at these days with shame at some point, when they come to their senses.

[melody]

21. No, they spend their time thinking and talking like genuine progressives - I agree with them

They see what Clinton is doing ... my god, even the biggest NY paper that endorsed her is stepping back.
It's obvious.

[sandnsea]

32. Riiight

That's why Matthews said that it was the media's fault because they created the delusion that Hillary could win. They did that because they're in the take for Obama. :crazy:

Keith and Rachel are just telling the truth. They'd be doing the same thing if it were Edwards-Clinton, because Clinton would be running the same kind of kneecapping campaign. Except then, you'd be able to see it.

[bigwillq]

12. Clinton got more votes.

That's why he lost. It's really that simple.

She also has been polling well in some of the demographics in that state. Obama did well in those demos that he has been doing well in previous states. PA was a lot like Ohio, and it favored Clinton.

Don't blame anybody else please.

[Cha]

13. Yeah,

IT'S THE M$$$FM, STUPID.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. he lost because of Kieth Oberman and Jon Stewat?

[hulka38]

17. Who's in the bottom row 3rd from the right?

[Berry Cool]

22. Nora O'Donnell

Yeah, I know, she looks like a pinup girl.

She's been known to pose that way when not pregnant.

[Buzz Clik]

19. It was the ideal place for her. He cracked her lead in half.

That was a damned fine showing.

No need to be spreading blame.

[Taxmyth]

25. You sure it wasn't the demographics of the State?

If I didn't recognize the faces you posted and there were more women, I'd say you hit the nail on the head.

[East Liberty Denizen]

27. Obama needs to get his act together

Obama's personality and message just aren't resonating with lower/middle class white people. Looking at the results in today's Post Gazette, Obama only won in African American communities, college student communities and wealthy communities in Pittsburgh.

This could be a problem in November, a big margin in Allegheny County is almost essential for victory, the candidate still has time to get his act together.

[Blue_Roses]

34. you sound as dumb as a bed of rocks...

do you think Pittsburg, PA is the only city and state in the US...think again dumbass.

[doc03]

35. That's Pittsburgh dumbass and yes without states like

PA and OH Obama can't win. He may get the elitist votes in some red states in the primaries but those states will never go Democrat in the GE.

[MJJP21]

31. Whe Obama lost

Obama lost PA because he didn't go negative enough to defend himself. He waited way to long to counter with the ammo that is available. Where was the commercial about Hillarys lying ? It goes back to Watergate! Every candidate can lie but when they will probably lie all you are getting when you vote for that person is no different than voting to take whats behind curtain number three. Where was the commercial that could have used the disclaimer that the mutual funds use on tv that say in fine print at the bottom "past performance" is no guarantee of future performance when Hillary cites the Clinton years.
Where was the commercial asking what happened to Hugh and Tony Rodham (Hillarys brothers pardoned). Where was the commercial using one of Rushs famous analogies that would go like this. "Do you know how many people have to be wrong for Hillary to be right?"
Where was the comeback for Obama insulting Pa when Hillary and the media did the same or worse when they implied the old (set in their ways) and the uneducated voted or are voting for Hillary? I really am upset to be linked to this mindset. PA people are stupid and the vote proves it. No one said a thing.
Hillary claims to be a fighter but where was anyone calling her on the claim. Where did she ever fight for anyone but herself?Where are those jobs she promised to NY if she was elected senator.Obama would have gotten far more traction if he had used the local news stations for one on one interviewing. Who screwed up at Obamas camp and did not find out before hand that the cosponsoring group of the ABC debate had both Clintons and both Bushs on the board and agreed to be interviewed by Stephanopoulus. He was broadsided here and again he said nothing. This is only a small sampling of what could have been used. If it sounds like I'm pissed I am and I am one of those 160000 republicans that switched not to vote for Hillary but to vote for Obama.

[DemGa]

39. I'm sure it makes those whiners at "Daily Kos" feel better

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. Donna Brazille? She's a big Obama supporter...

n/t

[DesertFlower]

43. i thought she was a hillary supporter. nt

[Beacool]

46. Stop spinning!!!

Obama lost the race because he's a flawed candidate. He has an extremely thin resume, he wasn't fully vetted and he has not won the trust of the working people.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

49. I think people who are hurting financially don't have the luxury to support Obama.

They see the Clintons - who had a great economy and there was peace, etc. I can see where they'd rather go with the "tried and true" over taking a chance with an unknown like Obama. I can just picture some blue collar person who is worried about their home that is ready to go into forclosure saying wtf? while listening to Obama's speeches and thinking it's bullshit.

He doesn't say a lot of concrete things.

[barack the house]

47. ...

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[democracy1st]

48. add Richard Mellon Scaife

[ClericJohnPreston]

50. Sour grapes

make bitter whine.

[WinkyDink]

53. Odd, how they had such little influence in other primaries.

[TragedyandHope]

54. K & R for TRUTH