Large mismatch between exit polls and results?

[nebula]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOt85LX2E3c

"I've never seen exit polls so consistently off as they were in New Hampshire and PA."

Joe Scarborough

[Kittycat]

1. Tweety was carrying on about this as well. Particularly in Bucks & Montgomery Cty.

[papau]

2. LOL - of course - any Clinton win must be by fraud - indeed the NH recount showed - NOTHING

[nebula]

7. Exit polls are fool-proof!

their purpose is to detect election fraud.

they prove beyond a doubt 2000/2004 elections were stolen.



RFK Jr. on widespread problems in NH primary:


www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5653957

[Birthmark]

8. Heartbreaking, isn't it?

[caligirl]

11. don't trivialize this issue. its not about who got screwed here, its about trust

and stability both in our voting integrity and in our elections. Both sides lost or gained votes because of hackable machines. Further those of us old enough to have been active in 2000 and 2004 and were screaming to the skies about these hackable machines have done a service to all candidates and voters where states have banned these machines. Just getting them to listen was hell on earth. So don't trivialize this.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

16. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. endorses Hillary, but he has this to say....

"I’m not saying anything bad about my candidate but I– it is funny at New Hampshire that all the ones that were hand-counted went for Obama and all the ones that were machine counted went for Hillary."

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_barbara__080423_clinton_s_blind_eye_.htm

[SunsetDreams]

3. This could have something to do with it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5638388

[Ice-9]

4. I suspect there are a lot of people who claim to have voted for Obama when they really didn't

Perhaps they're embarrassed about their reason for voting against him. I wonder why.

:shrug:

[SunsetDreams]

6. That makes no sense, if they had a reason they would just

say they are voting for Hillary or not voting....in a poll you don't have to give the reason.

[Ice-9]

10. That's not what I meant

People who genuinely believe Senator Clinton is the best candidate should be proud of their vote for her and would have no reason to lie. If some voters do lie, then it may be because they're ashamed of their vote. Why might they be ashamed? Perhaps they really believed that Senator Obama was the better candidate, but they voted for Clinton because they feared that America wasn't ready for a black president. Or perhaps they voted for Clinton because *they* weren't ready for a black president. Either way, they may be embarrassed that they -- Democrats of all people -- voted against someone because of his race. It may make them feel better about themselves to tell the pollster they voted for Obama, or maybe they're afraid the pollster will see the guilty look on their faces and know why they voted for Clinton if they tell him the truth, so they just lie and say they voted for Obama.

But as I said, there are innocent and not-so-innocent explanations for the results. It could be bad data for a number of reasons. We just don't know.

:shrug:

[dailykoff]

5. I'm sure it's all just a big misunderstanding.

I bet all those unverifiable voting machines controlled by GOP clients are FAR more reliable than actual ballots.

[Lugnut]

14. Touch screen voting

No paper record anywhere other than absentee ballots are used in Luzerne Co.

[Peace Patriot]

9. Interesting that we don't know, and CAN'T know, isn't it?

Gee, whose idea was that, to have no ballots TO count--or, even if there are ballots, NOT to count them?

Say "our benighted, bipartisan political establishment" three times, real fast, throw salt over your shoulder, and run outside, and, after turning around three times, pray to the gods of democracy that we END 'TRADE SECRET' VOTE COUNTING before the decade is over.

[WA98296]

12. GOP would tinker in the results, they love the idea of running against HRC and

watching the dems spending so much time and money fighting each other.

Edited to ADD: And just how far do you think the corporate machine would go to control the most powerful country on the planet? You think they are above tampering with election results where there is no way to audit those results?

[cliffordu]

15. I'm convinced they have already manipulated two national elections,

I see no reasons they won't do it this time.

Whole lotta money and power at stake here....Not as much as when Bush and his backers lined up at the trough, but enough to go to just about any length to keep the $$ flowing.

[yourout]

13. It gets even more interesting when you compare precincts with DREs to exit polls.

Very consistant tilt towards Hillary.

[Kitty Herder]

17. Has anyone else noticed that exit polls are only off in one direction in this country?

They consistently indicate that the more progressive candidate is going to win, and then by some bizarre alchemy, the more conservative one actually does win. What does that seem to indicate?