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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 PM
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The Best Kind of Asskicking Is When The Loser Thinks He Won
That's what happened to Hillary last night.

What Obama did yesterday in Pennsylvania was phenomenal. Nobody wants to admit it.

The game from the getgo was delegates. He kicked ass in Pa. They're playing checkers and he's playing chess.

Years from now when they write about it, they will admit how brilliant this campaign has been.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:43 PM
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1. Hillary: "I won! .....er.... wait... what happened to all my money???"
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:45 PM
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5. Didn't you hear? She made 1000 bazillion dollars in 20 minutes!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:46 PM
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7. The point is that he won the REAL battle... he bankrupted her...
...
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 PM
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13. Thats 100 BRAZILLION, dummy!
Sheesh. Everyone knows 1000 bazillion is a lot not more than 100 brazillion.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:55 PM
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14. (smacks forehead) DOH!
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:47 PM
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8. Follow that with
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:47 PM by wileedog
"Well at least I got ... what.... how many? .... 12 fucking delegates?!! Are fucking kidding me?!!

Do you know how much I can't fucking stand Crown Royal Whisky?!!"
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:56 PM
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15. I heard 9
that'll really put a dent into Obama's lead.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:55 AM
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25. He also picked up 2 Superdelegates yesterday.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:43 PM
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2. Yeah! K and R
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:44 PM
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3. K&R
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:45 PM
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4. They're trying to counter aikido with drunken boxing
:P
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:46 PM
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6. I am confirming what you are saying.....
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 PM
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9. Sen. Obama always knew he would have to play this faster and smarter with every angle covered. Pure
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:50 PM by barack the house
genius.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 PM
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10. I agree....
Hillary had to work herself ragged, and break her bank just to eke out a win in a state that by all accounts should have been a glide for her. She had to pull out all the stops, do things that revealed a very unpleasant side to her character and judgment because she knew if she didn't she'd lose and lose big. He basically broke the back of her campaign... and she won't even fully realize it for another couple of weeks at least.

I used to worry about this race, but now I am just sitting back and watching things unfold. Obama is a big boy and he's ready for the big leagues. He's gonna win and the strategy will only be fully evident in hindsight.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:05 PM
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18. Good post, mamalone..
:toast: to a fellow New Yorker for Obama:)
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:53 AM
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24. Thanks...
fellow Ny'er:)
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:27 PM
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38. mamalone, you said it better that I ever could.
:hi:
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:50 PM
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11. You mean like Hillary in Texas?
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RareLubbockDem Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:15 PM
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21. but you know..
media keeps saying she won Texas. We Texans know better....
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:50 PM
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12. Even better is when you land a knockout blow on the guy that's kicking your ass
I LOVE when that happens. Of course it's usaually preceeded by a few punishing jabs, say like Pennsylvania.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:00 PM
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16. She needed 65%, she only got 55%.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:02 PM
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17. LOL You don't get it yet do you?
That's why it's so devastating. It has a delayed effect. After all the celebrating, then you wake up to reality.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:05 PM
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19. She's worse off today than she was yesterday.
At least yesterday there was still, dare I say it, "hope".

By closing the gap, the shut the door. He didn't have to win.

In the words of that guy in Braveheart, "I don't have to beat ya, I just have to fight ya."
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:16 PM
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35. Knockout blow?
No, not a knockout blow.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:14 PM
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20. Well, right now, they're in a dead heat
She has 64 delegates. He has 63. The rest are still undecided.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:41 AM
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22. What happened to that leaked memo from the Obama campaign ...
... from the OH/TX coverage that showed how the Obama campaign had pretty much predicted all the results up to that point? I'm wondering what it had said about PA.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:49 AM
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23. Found this....


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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 PM
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32. Thanks, FrenchieCat. That must be it.
Interesting how it's pretty much gone the way the Obama campaign has predicted in the beginning, plus or minus a few percentage points. A 50 State Strategy, not conceding any but aware of the impossibility in winning them *all*.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:12 AM
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26. Losing by 10 is phenomenal?
:eyes:
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:34 AM
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29. When you were down by 25 a month earlier...
You go through the toughest 6 weeks of the campaign regarding the media, McCain & Clinton all coming after you no-holds barred, and you still only lose 12 delegates that you will more then make up for in North Carolina a couple of weeks later.

Yeah.. i'd say that's not too bad!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:26 PM
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37. It's the 4th quarter. She's behind by 13 points. She needed a touchdown to be competitive.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 01:27 PM by TahitiNut
She got a field goal. Her diehard fans cheered ... but the more rational are leaving the stadium.

It's just that simple. :shrug:

Two minute warning! Obama's got the ball. What do YOU think the line is in Las Vegas at THIS point? Place your bet.

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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:17 AM
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27. Phenomenal would have been a "real" win.
Yes he did well, but he did not knock her out. That is not even close to a phenomena.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:56 PM
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33. Phenomenal is pretty much nailing one's election strategy ...
... as Obama's campaign appears to have done. They knew the win would be hard-fought, but things have pretty much gone according to strategy, plus or minus percentage points here and there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5657782&mesg_id=5661528

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:29 AM
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28. His campaign has been extraordinary...
...but he and Clinton can both claim (different) victories in Pennsylvania.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:03 AM
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30. Losing is the new winning!
Years from now when they write about it, "they" will be not
be calling you brilliant.

We spent $11 million and lost, woo hoo!!

:rofl:
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:04 AM
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31. how does this even make sense.... spin it any way you like, it was a bad loss.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:15 PM
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34. Absolutely true
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:18 PM
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36. He doesn't have to say a word. He's already won. He understands that the side show
will continue though.
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DazedandConfused Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:40 PM
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39. He'll be the most inspiring loser the Dems have ever nominated.
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