Hillary admiting to defeat and, demanding VP ticket?

[gal]

Carl Bernstein was just on CNN 360 with Anderson Cooper, he mentioned that he spoke to a counselor to Hillary Clinton camp, they admitted that it's a longshot for them to win this election. The odds are they are not going to win it. He is saying it is possible that she can DEMAND to be put on the ticket as VP, and they feel Obama would HAVE to give it to her. This person is saying they know her and this is very feasible.

[anonymous171]

1. I think she's trying to damage him enough so that he needs her on the ticket.

[Kittycat]

8. I'd have serious concerns of her sabotaging the GE in that Scenario.

Controlling Bill's loud mouth & finger wagging, and controlling her as VP.

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[jkshaw]

38. What are you talking about?

[Exultant Democracy]

57. I for one wouldn't want my heart beat to be the only thing between her and the oval office.

[ScarletSniper]

116. Lmao. Hillary on the ticket = death squad

[Bolo Boffin]

139. Come on.

Let's leave the Vince Foster stuff to the Freepers. :)

[Poll_Blind]

65. Ya, I hear ya, big time. n/t

PB

[CoffeeCat]

68. Come on, we can all say it...

We're all thinking it.

I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the one thing keeping the Queen from and her red cape and tiara.

[ej510]

90. I think that she would to so she would become president.

Fuck that I do not trust those people.

[ellacott]

102. I know what you're saying

Conspiracy theorists feel that Johnson did the same thing.

You never know.....

[MonkeyFunk]

110. You think she would have him murdered

and your stupid buddies all agree with you.

And you wonder why we find your hatred of Clinton irrational. Bullshit right-wing memes like this is why.

[ellacott]

113. How many "stupid buddies" have echoed their agreement

I also find the hatred of Obama irrational. Some of your folks also use right-wing memes.

[MonkeyFunk]

124. six so far

and I've never seen anyone here claim Obama would commit murder, much less get cheered on for saying it.

[ellacott]

128. No one is cheering it on

Your fellow Hillary supporters have said some pretty obscene things. No side has a monopoly on offenses.

[MonkeyFunk]

146. It's all right here in this very thread!!!

And don't change the subject - this is about so-called Democrats spreading the idea that Hillary Clinton is a murderer. It's sick, it's right-wing, and it doesn't belong here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

62. After the shit Hillary has pulled, picking her for VP is the only way Obama loses my vote.

[Rockholm]

101. So you will vote for McSame?

Maybe not vote at all? Gee, the MSM needs to get on board here at DU and see how many Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary. They love yammering about the pct of supposed Clinton supporters that will not vote for Obama (which I do not believe). You make an excellent case in point.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

147. I could never vote for McBush either - they both make me sick! Hillary is no Dem. . .

She couldn't care less about the average American struggling to make ends meet; it's all about her Rovian-like desire for power. Then she has the nerve to try and paint Obama as the elitest. Give me an 'effin break!

Okay, I'm off my soap box. I feel better now.

[woolldog]

94. She'd be a loose cannon in the campaign and in the white house

Obama would have no control over his own VP and that would be a disaster and undermine his GE bid and presidency, if he got that far.

He needs someone who'd be unquestionably loyal to him. HRC has no loyalty to anyone but herself.

[burythehatchet]

121. Exactly what Lieberman did to Gore

[lumberjack_jeff]

140. No, HRC and BO are very similar policy-wise.

Lieberman was chosen in an ill-considered attempt to broaden Gore's appeal.

Obama supporters: if your guy wins, when he selects a runningmate, your correct response is "Yay! That's the best choice ever!" Get on the damn bus.

I love Edwards, but watching this primary makes me wish that HRC was Kerry's runningmate in 2004. "Quit? Are you fucking nuts?" She would have kneecapped those swiftboat assholes.

[Eurobabe]

134. I'd have serious concerns that she would throw Barack

under a moving bus to claim the Presidency!

[mod mom]

96. Can you imagine having ole silent Bill second guessing your every decision (to the media).

I believe it would be a death wish.

[Liberal Gramma]

2. When pigs fly

[msongs]

3. and that "counselor to Hillary..." is who? nt

[SoCalDem]

24. Dr. Seuss' ghost nt

[ossman]

4. Nothing like your VP starring in ads against her running mate. Sorry Chickadoo.

[davidinalameda]

42. chickadoo?

that's sexist!

and birdist as well

[WA98296]

5. I'm sure the GOP wants this, HRC wants this...that's about it, isn't it? Bad Idea.

[yourout]

6. Wow.......basically blackmail her way to the VP.

[Cha]

32. Extortionist...hilary adding that to her

resume?

[Johnny__Motown]

7. I would rather see Ferraro on as VP... again

[IndianaGreen]

9. And put President Obama's life in jeopardy? No way!

Enough people have died around the Clintons!

[newmajority]

23. Exactly

A lot of people are comparing this idea of a Obama/Clinton ticket to the 1960 campaign.

Well, we all remember how that turned out, don't we? :scared:

[Catherina]

36. Exactly. She must really think people are stupid about corrupt she is

No. No fucking way. If anything could motivate me not to vote for Obama it's endangering his life like that just to end up with President Hillary.

Everytime I see her on TV, I think of Lucretia Borgia and her hollow ring full of poison. It's weird and I can't shake it.

[goclark]

55. Google is an amazing friend

Right you are,I saw the list that was long enough to make a full 3 seasons of Columbo.

If just 1/10 of that list is anywhere near true, I'm afraid for Obama to be near her or their "buddies."


He would have to employ a food taster for sure.

[lumberjack_jeff]

141. You people have really gone round the bend. Do you know that? n/t

[gabeana]

10. NO!!!

we need a clean break with the past
Jim Webb is the best choice

[mkultra]

11. how bout we just give her some cash and an ambassador post

like to aruba or somthing. Maybe Bosnia.

[Catherina]

61. Ambassador post? Why do you hate those countries

I wouldn't even give Hillary a job answering phones if I were Obama.

:hi:

[goclark]

69. usless she was located in a padded cell

in Bosnia.

[mkultra]

73. i think she has skills

like lying. Thats a skill, just not a moral one.


Maybe some country needs its own Bhagdahd Bob.


"No Obama supporter will ever vote in America again!"

[Catherina]

75. She does.. but damn. She'd get those countries obliterated over a misunderstanding

I'm so appalled at her treachery that I can't even want her in charge of a great new post like Women's Affairs. About the only post I'd support right now is counting the Iraqi War Dead and yes, I am that bitter. She thought she could laugh this off.

It infuriates me, as a woman, that there's no solidarity between us because I'd be so happy if there were.

[mkultra]

77. i was going to say something i thought was smart

the best i could come up with was: i agree!

[Catherina]

83. You made me smile

Don't know why but you did :hi:

I can't believe her nerve!

[jwirr]

78. Or a seat on the SCOTUS.

[Bodhi BloodWave]

99. If she is given an ambassador post, i say appoint her to Iran n/t

[IDemo]

12. She's in no position to demand anything

And Obama has no obligation to award her the consolation prize.

[Tribetime]

13. Man my heads spinning today as it is...can you believe anything

[scheming daemons]

14. Any move that would make the GOP happy is a BAD move.... this would be a BAD move...

...

[guyanakoolaid]

15. Never. Obama would be killed within the year.

Sorry, I've got to be frank about this: he needs a rural grass-roots progressive who scares the military industrial complex and corporations even more.

[crankychatter]

16. no one can galvanize the GOP like HRC

and with her associations Obama's safety would be a serious concern

no effing joke

[LakeSamish706]

17. I would refuse to put her on the ticket if I were him... She is venom and would...

not be good for him. In addition, I would be very worried about his personal safety with her as the VEEP.

[gal]

29. I would refuse as well.

I don't see why they are pushing a joint ticket other than its her only chance.
It has not been raised in past primaries has it?

[rodeodance]

19. ha ha --Carl---aka Karl.

[bigbrother05]

20. She can be McCains vP

[goclark]

59. Why not ~ Lieberman could, couldn't he?

[bigbrother05]

86. I think she would take it, in a heartbeat

McCain is old.

[goclark]

91. They may have already arranged it

She could continue to pick at the Democrats until she had to run and be protected by McCain.

They would be one mean duo ~ Bomb,bomb,bomb~ Iran

Horror story.

[speedoo]

21. She can take her demand and shove it.

Fucking bizarre.

[Poll_Blind]

22. FUCK YOUR WHITE ENTITLEMENT ISSUES, HILLARY! n/t

PB

[crankychatter]

34. you made me smile

thanx

[d00mzday]

25. " Reality" is kicking in, U lost Clinton

"Reality" is starting to sink in. Admitting defeat is all part of the grieving process.

[goclark]

74. After she gets all those donations

she'll need to keep um coming to pay for the Bellagio and Donuts.

She ain't going nowhere other than beside McCain as his running mate.

Watch it happen.

If the fairy tale is even a bit true by Carl, I would be surprised.

She is not hardly going to quit ~ never.

[BlooInBloo]

26. Naturally - the easiest way to ensure the republicans win is for Clinton to be on the ticket...

... and a republican win is the best-case scenario for Clinton at this point.

[uponit7771]

27. She can be McCains vP

[lumberjack_jeff]

142. That is good politics

in dumbass land.

I swear to God, it's like you guys don't want to win.

[Cha]

28. She can demand all the fucking crap she wants..

'cause that's what she does..but Obama is too intelligent to even consider that shit.

Go the fuck home, hilary..wherever the fuck that is.

[Cali_Democrat]

30. To quote a fellow DUer

Hillary has already burned that bridge, gathered the ashes, urinated on them and then burned them again.

[Catherina]

64. Under sniper fire at that

:rofl:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

31. Too late -- she screwed the hooch.

[EnviroBat]

129. I find that picture truly disturbing...

[JBoy]

33. She could demand to be put on the ticket, or Obama can wait 2 weeks

and Super Delegates will decide her out.

I can wait 2 weeks.

[Catherina]

48. Me too. She's batshit crazy! n/t

[dailykoff]

35. Right.

She makes Norma Desmond look like Einstein.

[boppers]

37. Something else she thinks she's "entitled" to?

I think we already know how this one turns out.

[wanpete]

39. very, very feasible.

[SunsetDreams]

40. Delusional, Obama doesn't HAVE to do it, that would energize the Repub base

[Poll_Blind]

47. You're right, he doesn't- HE gets to pick, nobody else. n/t

PB

[Kokonoe]

41. Drop out now Hillary!

Or your career and speech money circuit are history.

[StevieM]

45. Wow, you speak for all these people? (eom)

[Kokonoe]

50. Just to Hillary, for her own good. nt

[Catherina]

71. Kokono speaks for all these people

:woohoo:

Rec this thread- If you think it's time for Hillary to drop out

12 hours later it has 936 938 939 943 946 950 956 965 972 980 981 recommendations. Isn't that GREAT? It speaks to how many Democrats want Hillary to get the fuck our of our faces.

Join me in recommending it Stevie. I'd like to see it hit 1000 :hug:

:woohoo:

[blogslut]

43. I'll say this is a real possibility

The very same person that started the draft Hillary petition has now started a new petition for a unity ticket.

Coincidence?

[rodeodance]

44. **LOOK AT ALL THE BHO FANS BEING DUPED BY GOSSIP**

[Umbram]

60. Wow, *'s and all caps - did you actually think you had something important to say?

You were wrong.

[ima_sinnic]

105. LOL!

:spray:

good one! but it's like swatting at gnats--they just keep coming back.

[AtomicKitten]

46. Obama has won this fair & square. Screw her.

[Poll_Blind]

49. She's sick in the head, mark my words. n/t

PB

[Major Hogwash]

70. With a pen - a Mark Penn.

No doubt that's gonna leave a mark.

Oooh, I'm full of 'em tonight!

LoL

[Crunchy Frog]

51. An act of extreme, selfish pettiness on her part (if true).

I really, really hope Obama does not give into her demands, as I think she would be an absolute disaster on the ticket.

[StevieM]

52. This is just biased media spin to convince people that Hillary is no longer

in a position to win and that--supposedly--even she says so. They are trying to carry Obama piggy back across the finish line. The best part of this stunt is that Hillary can't deny it by saying that she isn't looking to be VP because that looks disrespectful to Obama.

I doubt that Hillary would want to be Obama's vice-president, she has a good job in the Senate. And although the Hillary haters here at DU may like to pretend that she is vulnerable in 2012 there is no real evidence to support that other then their own hatred causing them to see what isn't there.

I do think Obama might have to pick Wes Clark in order to reach out, though. There would need to be some sort of blatant and tranpsarent nod to the Clintons, and that's probably as good as he could do (I guess he could pick Sen. Pryor of Arkansas). But this notion that Obama people have that Hillary and Bill are nothing and Obama will get her voters, or easily replace them with others, is simple folly. He has a serious problem and there is more of a need to reach out then he (or his supporters) would like to admit.

Steve

[RazBerryBeret]

53. hey I saw/heard that too!

it made me stop and stare at the TV..
the panel seemed to think it made sense that she could "demand" the VP position.
crazy!!

[gal]

63. ya I had to rewind my DVR.

I thought I was hearing things. She starts DEMANDING we should DEMAND she go home.

[Mme. Defarge]

54. Ah the nightmare ticket!

No. HELL NO!!!

[Tribetime]

56. I think there's a good chance that a woman will be on the ticket

But who?????

[Poll_Blind]

58. It's basically the same thing that duckshit face Charley Gibson suggested during...

....the debates. I hope he slips and falls someplace icy. Remote and icy.

PB

[goclark]

67. My keyboard did not appreciate that at all --- LOL

:rofl:

[gal]

95. Yes its been suggested.

This person whom Bernstein said was a counselor to her, said she was going to DEMAND it.
Stay tuned...

[ruby slippers]

66. if she is successful in getting on, I will volunteer to be Obama's food tester......

it will be my sacrifice to my country

[Tatiana]

72. This is EXACTLY what I think is going on. n/t

[Colobo]

76. This is simply wrong. I can't believe Hillary's ambition is bigger than herself.

[Pisces]

79. FUCK HER!!! No way!!!

[jillan]

80. Bernstein? He's been out to trash her for over a year.

I call BS.

[emilyg]

85. Voice of reason.

[smiley_glad_hands]

81. If they can end this thing tomorrow, I'm all for it.

Besides what does the VP really do? Hangs out in the senate. I would be more comfortable if he doubles his SS protection though.

She has acted like a spoiled child in all this and I can see where many including Obama could not stomach this.

[New Dawn]

82. Clinton as VP = President John McCain

Obama does not need someone as unpopular as Clinton on his campaign.

[berni_mccoy]

84. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! CLINTON FOR THE V.P. WILL LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION!

[TheDoorbellRang]

87. What is really scary about this thread

Is that everyone's been saying what I've been thinking. I guess we really, really don't trust her, do we?

I agree with what someone said upthread. We need a #2 on the ticket that would scare the corpcats worse than Obama.

[TexanDem]

88. DEMAND? What clout would she have to DEMAND from him???

I missed 360, but I'll catch the rerun tonight.

I do worry that the party might try to force it - which would be a HUGE mistake!

[galaxy21]

107. She could threaten to take it to the convention

[bitchkitty]

89. Shades of Vince Foster!

"I'd be afraid she was going to have him... You Know... I'm not saying it."

"I for one wouldn't want my heart beat to be the only thing between her and the oval office."

"I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the one thing keeping the Queen from and her red cape and tiara."

You people are not Democrats, and if you are, I am not a Democrat. What's next, resurrection of the Clinton Kill Count? Sheesh...

[barack the house]

92. Hillary no problems if you are VP but at least ask in civil manner. you will have to co-exist.

neogotiate a strategy and lets get this show on the road. we got work to do. Obama is a reasonable man if you go to dinner discuss a sensible strategy and let's get moving quick for the lvoe of god and the planet. Your both very strong willed so divide the presidency between you, at the veryleast it can regain your reputation if you show greace to one antother. I say this in the hope that the campaignread the board.

[barack the house]

93. Sorry folks Obama knows it he's avoided attacking her because vp is the only solution forward...

..He'l be fine if they lay some ground rules so they won't develop any friction and discuss their do's and don'ts.

[gal]

97. I disagree.

People don't trust her. If he wins and she gets on the ticket and people won't trust the DNC. They will lose even more votes than her going back to the senate.
If he is nominee he should be allowed to pick his VP and cabinet the same way every other nominee / president has done.

I won't vote for a combined ticket.

[mmonk]

98. If that is what she wants, she needs to make the case to Obama

and quit her present tactics.

[powergirl]

100. Do you think she really wants to be VP?

I assumed she just couldn't make herself #2. I think it might be required that the party do this. But I am surprised that either party, especially Clinton would entertain this. Luckily Obama doesn't trash Clinton the way she does him, so he can at least leave the door open.

[gal]

103. I don't think she wants it.

But I do think she would take it over going back to the senate.

[galaxy21]

104. Hillary would not have him killed

first of all) It's too obvious. If anything happened to him, she'd be the first one everyone looked at.

second of all) I don't think much of her right now, but she's not evil.

[ShortnFiery]

123. I bring up "doubt" with two words: Vince Foster.

:evilgrin: That situation will always shadow her, right or wrong.

[City Lights]

106. DEMAND the veep spot sounds like something Hill would do. nt

[Galway girl]

108. Obama as President Hillary VP I can live with it

Obama needs his own Cheney!!!lol

[galaxy21]

109. I like the idea of Michelle and Hillary having to co exist

CATFIGHT!

[Galway girl]

111. Miaow I'm there

One good thing about this fight is that the Dems have contested 40 states and rebuilt voter bases in states they had forgotten about . There are now new states in play and florida or Ohio won't be the decider this time

[galaxy21]

112. Also, Hillary could be a shoe in for 2016

She'll be 68. Which is a few years younger than Mccain is right now.

[dailykoff]

143. She should be getting out on parole right about then

if she's lucky.

[truebrit71]

114. And hopefully Obama would tell her to go take a flying fuck at the moon....

...

[mtnsnake]

115. What a crock of shit this is. Hillary would never demand any such thing. Dumbest thread EVER!!

I mean, just look at some of the idiotic replies in this thread with people flying off the handle, practically going berserk over a notion that doesn't even exist. Wow, talk about paranoia it its most flagrant form!!

[Skwmom]

It's obvious that is what she is doing. In OH, they are saying she would

be in the "cat bird" seat. Obama DOES NOT have to put her on any ticket.

[ShortnFiery]

117. In her dreams! It's time to wrest The Clintonian DLC's stranglehold from our beloved Party. eom

[galaxy21]

119. Putting Hillary on the ticket is smart

Yes, she has baggage. But her postivies far outweigh her negatives.

[newmajority]

133. No it is not smart.

The DLC has damn near killed the Democratic party. It's time to cut off the head of the snake, and exorcize this filth from the party for good.

[gal]

145. I disagree, to much baggage to over come.

[NeedleCast]

118. I demand a Pony!!

[burythehatchet]

120. Very plausib;e. She must be in the White House to protect the current cabal

[AllexxisF1]

122. I just love this.

First Hillary has this aura of "this was supposed to be mine" and now it's "well you have to have me as VP" ....Barack, Howard Dean and all the other Progressive Democrats should walk right up to her face, smile and simply say "No....you get nothing".


The fight is over, the Democratic Party has finally come home to it's progressive roots. The DLC can now be shoved back into the closet from whence they came.


We are back.

[Life Long Dem]

125. She can make demands all she wants. It doesn't nmean she will get them.

[Texas Hill Country]

126. ridiculous, no one is talking to Carl... that blabbermouth.

[Hugabear]

127. Spoiled little brat

Want to be VP? Fine - go ask your buddy McCain.

[EnviroBat]

130. What's the story with Edwards?

Would he accept it, and would Barack offer?

[Poll_Blind]

131. When he was on Colbert's show he made a point of saying that the...

...candidate who gets his support will be the one who adopts his healthcare plan. Currently, Hillary's healthcare plan is much more like Edwards' than Obama's.

  Draw your own conclusions and pull up the video of his visit on YouTube so you can see for yourself.

PB

[EnviroBat]

136. Cool, thanks for that. I'll check it out...

[krawhitham]

132. If she wants on the ticket she needs to STOP atttacking him

[book_worm]

135. He doesn't owe her a thing

[Zachstar]

137. There is no way Clinton is getting the VP spot.

I know it will cost him my support and the support of many others who worked hard to get Obama the win.

He is over by 100 delegates and has more states won.

I'm sick of this entitlement bullshit. OBAMA campaign if you put Clinton as VP I am leaving the party.

[dailykoff]

She'd be better off demanding a light sentence

for her and her twofer stooge.

[Bolo Boffin]

138. Demand? How silly.

If she'd take it, he'd be lucky to have her.

[gal]

144. Many people out there disagree with you.

I won't take her either way.

[thoughtcrime1984]

148. I would resist that if I were Obama. No fucking way.

I hope she leaves politics altogether.

[geiger]

149. that would explain the reported memo coming from Reid, Pelosi, et al

that this is NOT a good idea.

I wondered why they would be commenting on such a thing, when all the blather from Hil Camp is that they are moving forward.