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[FlyingSquirrel]

I like lots of stars.

Seems like there are an awful lot of DU'ers here energized by Hillary's... er... 9.3% win in PA.

So let's just see how we're doin'

:crazy:

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Edit: OHMIGOD SHE WON PA BY 10%!!!!!! AND HERE COMES THE FLOOD OF SUPERDELEGATES FOR HER:

Gov. Brad Henry of Oklahoma for Obama
Rep. John Tanner of Tennessee for Clinton
DNC member Audra Ostergard of Nebraska for Obama

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

;-)

[LakeSamish706]

1. Huh... Where did you come up with this line?

"Seems like there are an awful lot of DU'ers here energized by Hillary's... er... 9.3% win in PA."

[FlyingSquirrel]

4. 1,260,208 vs 1,045,444 with 99% in, 2,305,652 votes

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

Just doin' the math.

54.66% - 45.34% = 9.31%

[cboy4]

14. You people are terrible at math....After all, you actually

think Obama won Texas. :spray:

[PseudoIntellect]

19. Oh yeah, that's right; caucuses are, indeed, nonexistent. Maybe they'll go away if

we ignore them long enough.

[cboy4]

22. We can only hope....But the bottom line is

one hundred and one thousand more Texans voted for Hillary than Obama.

[kwenu]

24. Actually no, some Hillary supporters are bad at math and at following rules.

[cboy4]

27. I'm just happy that you can't dispute more

people voted for Hillary in the Texas primary.

100,000-plus more, in fact.

[PseudoIntellect]

30. Where did the rules say that the popular vote is the only indicator of

a Texas victory?

Texas consists of two parts. There is no "popular vote" primary. There was a primary and a caucus.

Hillary won the primary, and Obama won the caucus. Oh, but caucuses don't exist, so Hillary won Texas. Caucuses are evil.

You can say Hillary won Texas, but it gives the false impression that she gained ground in Texas and that it is actual momentum, when actually she fell further behind. Maybe call it a tie, even. But in terms of the math and who approached the delegate number more closely, Obama DEFINITELY won.

[kwenu]

33. I don't need to. I did the door to door in my TX precinct to target the caucus vote.

You see. Obama supporters, intelligent lot that we are, understand the RULES!!! Therefore, a large part of our focus was on supporting the precinct conventions (caucuses)that would ensure that Obama took the most Texas delegates. We succeeded wildly and Obama is the Texas Winner in delegates.

The popular vote is significant but completely secondary in a delegate race. It's nice to be the leader in both but if you have to choose, you definitely want to be the delegate leader in a delegate race, not the popular vote leader.

So congratulations to Hillary in her win of the popular vote in Texas. She and her supporters might want to take a gander at those party rules though. Maybe she thinks that she's so experienced that she don't need no stinkin rules.

:rofl:

[SoCalDem]

39. delegates delegates delegates delegates n/t

[Yael]

10. Rather than 'energized" would you have preferred

"pissing themselves"?

I saw a lot of that last night. Over 10 (or fewer) delegates.

:shrug:

[Blue State Bandit]

12. Technically, it is a double digit lead....

though it's only one whole number and one small fraction of a number!

:sarcasm:



CRASH AND BURN BABY!

[MadBadger]

2. I think that will be her vote here to, 9.3%

[Yes We Did]

3. maybe -93

[MadBadger]

6. Fixed what I meant, lol.

[SoCalDem]

40. you forgot NEPTUNE & URANUS !!! Their totals will be HUGH!!

They will vault her into 1st super-plus place by 438%

[featherman]

5. kick for ...what the?

[tridim]

7. Hillary sez, DU doesn't count.

Just like most states.

[CoffeeCat]

8. This must be the DU caucus....

..and of course it doesn't count.

[FlyingSquirrel]

9. They can boycott polls all they want...

Can't win if ya don't play.

[Occam Bandage]

37. I really don't think they're boycotting. They're just looking to excuse their slim numbers.

[featherman]

11. They have their orders apparently

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. Why the hell am I still being annoyed by so many Hillbots if she has so little support on DU?

I put 2 more on ignore tonight alone.

Busy little critters, ain't they?

[FlyingSquirrel]

17. I think they've decided not to participate in polls or something

Just guessin'

[newmajority]

18. If a DLC governor doesn't control the vote counting, they aren't interested.

Now if Ed Rendell ran DU, Hillary would have a commanding lead by now. :evilgrin:

[TahitiNut]

28. The Borg ...hive mind.

:puke:

[Swamp Rat]

15. 9.2% as of 2:30 am EST

9,219 out of 9,264 Districts (99.51%) Reporting Statewide

CLINTON, HILLARY .......... 1,238,232..........54.6%
OBAMA, BARACK ............. 1,030,703..........45.4%

Hillary won (so far) by 9.2%.

Yet, for the past 24+ hours the M$M has reported she won by 10%.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us

[GetTheRightVote]

20. She needed to beat him by 20 % remember, or are you going deaf

perhaps can not read, remember Bill C comment concerning it, maybe have not been listening either, so sorry.

[Swamp Rat]

21. If you are going to criticize my reading skills, at least communicate clearly in English,

and in complete sentences using correct punctuation. :D

[FlyingSquirrel]

23. Yup... Jon Stewart reported the truth today.

The secretary of state website unfortunately has not proved to be quite as reliable as you'd think. Last night it had Lancaster county WAY off, like Obama had 40,000 on their site but really it was more like 27,000. CNN obviously went by the particular counties' websites and so amazingly enough it is closer to reality.

9.3% is about what it'll probably end up being. Doesn't matter either way, it's gonna be less than 10% and that's what the Obama campaign wanted. Considering what they were up against with the high senior population, the kitchen sink etc. it's pretty damn good.

[Swamp Rat]

26. They are lying long enough for her to repay her debts, and it makes 'good copy' for the M$M.

This also keeps Bushler, the Iraq war, Osama Bin Laden, the economy, etc. out of the news.

[TahitiNut]

25. 9.14654%

:shrug:

A difference of 207,529 out of 2,268,935 total votes cast.

So far.

[Guaranteed]

16. This poll is hilarious.

It literally makes me laugh my ass off.

[Secret_Society]

29. Most Hillary supporters can't stay awake this late

[FrenchieCat]

31. DU this poll!

Is Hillary the "comeback kid with her win in PA?"
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/american.morning /

[thoughtcrime1984]

32. F Hillary

There, I said it. I am going to have an awful time deciding between her and nobody. If she wins somehow, I think the people who think she is so damn great deserve to live in the bed they made with her. She is an awful Democratic candidate, but one of the greatest Republican candidates ever! Oh God, let me see a woman President before I die, Pleeeeeeeeaaasssesssssssssssssss! Let's have a female candidate who deserves it, one who doesn't throw her Party under the bus, one who actually wants to help "the people" more than she helps herself. Hillary just stinks as a Presidential candidate. STINKS.

[TragedyandHope]

34. Too many pesky activist Democrats on this forum

[featherman]

35. Apparently all these pro-Clinton posts are coming from SIX people

with multiple aliases

[Scurrilous]

36. Kick

:kick:

[LSK]

38. kick

[FlyingSquirrel]

41. Thanx

Lotsa Hill supporters around here but apparently they'd rather take their ball and go home rather than vote in a poll?

:shrug:

I guess it allows them to pretend they are more numerous than they really are.

Actually I'm pretty sure the percentage hasn't changed, it's perhaps 11% of DU or less

[usregimechange]

42. kicker

[WA98296]

43. kick

[WA98296]

44. Kicked and Recommended

[FlyingSquirrel]

45. Goodness me, someone's made a new one

But I don't "hate" either candidate so I'll kick mine of course!

:)