“OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS Thursday April 24 2008

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WELCOME TO “OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS

Thursday April 24 2008


A young supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) listens to him speak during a campaign rally held at the University of Southeast campus in New Albany, Indiana April 23, 2008. Jeff Haynes/Reuters

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1. ***Attn All Obama News Fans, Read Below****

Help us meet our goal of 1,000 recommends for thread if you
think Hillary Clinton should drop out.

Go here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5642736&mesg_id=5642736

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2. British Minister Says Clinton's 'Obliterate' Iran Tone Imprudent

posted in the Breaking news
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3280832&mesg_id=3280832

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3. Dan Rather Reports: On the Road with Obama in Pennsylvania (Watch it Here)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5614662

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4. Hillary's Indy "Rally" Draws...Dozens

Hillary's Indy "Rally" Draws...Dozens

by droy20 at DKOS Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:24:33 PM PDT

If anyone doubts that Hillary Clinton has regained the momentum in this race, they need look no further than the massive turnout today for Hillary Clinton's rally in downtown Indianapolis. Held during lunchtime within walking distance of a large state university (IUPUI) and offices where thousands upon thousands of Hoosiers work, the rally drew, uh...dozens -- yes, literally, dozens -- of supporters.

From the Indianapolis Star:

Fresh off her victory last night in Pennsylvania, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton returned to Indiana this afternoon, speaking before a group of about 500 supporters on the American Legion Mall Downtown.

That's so much momentum, it's practically "Joe-Mentum." I haven't seen this many people in downtown Indianapolis since, well...it would have to have been at the Farmers' Market last week.

droy20's diary :: ::

But, to be fair, Senator Obama held a rally last night in Evansville. And, limping along after his soul-crushing defeat in Pennsylvania,
he could muster few supporters:
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama told about 8,000 cheering supporters at Roberts Stadium on Tuesday night that he sees better news ahead.

…more at the link

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5. Tom Tomorrow: How Hillary Can Win

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5647557&mesg_id=5647557

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6. Top Hillary Surrogate Disagrees With Bill: No Candidate Played Race Card

Top Hillary Surrogate Disagrees With Bill: No Candidate Played Race Card

By Greg Sargent - April 23, 2008, 2:42PM

A top Hillary surrogate appears to disagree with Bill Clinton's now-infamous assertion the other day that the Obama campaign played the race card against him.

New York governor David Paterson, who's African American, was asked on a Hillary campaign conference call moments ago whether he agreed with Bill's assertion.


"I don't think that either of the candidates has played the race card in this campaign," Paterson said, after wondering aloud a bit about the context of Bill's remarks. In a reference to both race and gender, Paterson continued: "I don't think either candidate pushed that button."

It's obviously a delicate spot for Paterson, but he could have sidestepped the question, and he didn't.

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7. Video of Obama From April 6th Resurfaces, provides "Bitter Context".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eZxa54qWHw

Text:

I very early on, when I was elected to the U.S. Senate said, that George Bush's ownership society essentially meant you're on your own and that's been great for us, those who are gathered here.

But it hasn't been good for a whole bunch of people and because we have not been willing to reinvest all the wealth and all the productivity gains that have been achieved over the past decade, resentments have built up and if you go into Ohio if you go into PA if you into the vast midlands of the country they are ready to shut down globalization tomorrow.

Protectionism, anti-immigrant sentiment which is a variation on protectionism and its not that they don't understand that things have changed, its that they feel like they don't have a stake in that change and they're right because all of us have enjoyed tax breaks from George Bush that we didn't need and weren't even asking for, instead of taking some of that money and some of those surpluses and reinvesting it in infrastructure, laying broadband lines in rural communities, making college more affordable and retraining workers who have been laid off and so rediscovering in the sense that we're all in it together that's going to be critical and again, that's a political issue, that's not that we don't know how to do it.

Read more at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/23/16440/4361
or: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=123140&mesg_id=123140

Don't forget to rec!

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8. Its the Media, Stupid - and that includes Huffington Post

They feed off of this shit.

Pennsylvania Results (Hillary Won The Battle, Lost The War A Long Time Ago)

Wednesday, April 23, 2008

As expected Hillary won Pennsylvania, but not without having Obama cut deeply into her once huge lead, despite all of her advantages in the state.

As expected, she is spinning away, completely out of touch with reality.

As expected, the media is pretty much saying the race goes on (imagine that, they ratings go on as well).

As expected, McCain and the Republicans are undoubtedly very happy that many Democrats apparently don't understand that attacking their nominee from two fronts at once probably isn't the best idea.

Hillary won Pennsylvania by a mediocre less than 9% margin, far from the blowout win she needed, but enough for the media to continue to indulge her delusions of having any chance of winning the nomination. Not that the media needed much push, they've been willfully ignoring the math for months now, while repeating Hillary's talking points like they are witty jokes they think may impress someone. Thus even on The Huffington Post there is a big headline which reads: Hillary's Next Must-Win: Indiana.

…Excuse me? Her next must-win? Let's inject some reality into that statement. EVERY state is a must win for Hillary if she wants to actually win the nomination.

…more at the link

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9. Instaputz: Stupid Question

Stupid Question.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008

How come I never hear/read/whatever that Senator Clinton is
"having trouble winning over African American voters"?

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10. You will be shocked.....

Waste of Space

You will be shocked to learn that Maureen Dowd's column today says that a male Democratic candidate is really a woman, and a female Democratic candidate is really a an/castrating bitch. And this crackpot nonsense is expressed entirely through witless cliches only Camille Paglia or Ann Althouse could find clever.

(Note: this post may be applied to all past and future Maureen Dowd columns about Democrats.)

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11. More Specious Bullshit ( from renowned Clinton fluffer Lanny Davis)

More Specious Bullshit

By: John Cole April 23, 2008 at 6:00 pm

Renowned Clinton fluffer Lanny Davis takes to the HuffPo to bring this important list of ten reasons why Hillary should be given (and given is the right word, as she can no longer earn it) the nomination:

...

2. Senator Obama tried hard to win the state, campaigned intensely throughout the state for most of the last six weeks—and was trying to win,
not just lose a narrow margin.

3. He spent $11 million on media—about three times more than Senator Clinton.
And on an on and on he drones, you can see the entire piece here.

So, a question for Lanny. If Barack is such a bad candidate, and he is so unelectable, and it is such a bad idea to have him as the Democratic nominee, why can’t Hillary beat him?

Why is she behind him in every conceivable metric? Why is she behind in pledged delegates? Why is she behind in the popular vote (and don’t insult my intelligence by trying to pass that sheer nonsense the morons at certain pro-Clinton blogs are lapping up)? Why are super delegates flocking to Obama, while Hillary has picked up only a handful in the past few months. Why has she won fewer states? Why is she trumpeting her narrow delegate pickup in PA, when it is less than the number of net delegates Obama picked up in a variety of other states? Why is she behind in fund raising? Why was she unable to turn her double digit lead a year ago into any actual primary wins? Why, with her starting financial advantage and name recognition, was she held to a tie on Super Tuesday?

Why to those questions and a hundred more like them. If your candidate is so much better, why is Obama kicking her ass? Why?

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12. Congratulations, Monster! You can hate Hillary, but give credit where credit is due...

Congratulations, Monster! You can hate Hillary, but give credit where credit is due...

John Brown Wednesday, April 23, 2008

It's easy to blame losers instead of crediting winners. You see it all the time...

This line of thinking is common in politics, too. Why can't Barack close the deal? What did Hillary do wrong in Iowa? Etc. When it comes to Monday morning quarterbacking and political punditry, it's all about the loser's shortcomings these days. People like to analyze why one person lost instead of focusing on why the other won.

I think that's crap. I believe in giving credit where credit is due. That puts me in a difficult position this morning. If you've ever read a post here before, you know that I think Barack Obama is our best remaining choice for President and that I believe Hillary Clinton causes cancer of the political soul.

Nonetheless, I'm not going to spend this morning blaming Obama's failures for Pennsylvania. Nor am I going to take the easiest out possible--arguing (perhaps accurately) that Hillary's support came, in large measure, from a bunch of idiots. Nope. I'm going to simply congratulate Hillary on winning.

…If we wanted to select Presidents based on their ability to run tenacious long-shot campaigns... If we wanted to choose leaders based on their ability to execute old school politics like true professionals... If we wanted to honor those who are really good at playing the game... Well, it that's what we wanted I think Hillary Clinton has made a very strong case for herself since Super Tuesday.

Personally, I have higher aspirations. That's why I won't pull a lever labeled Monster. Obviously, others don't feel that way. I truly believe I'm right and they're wrong, but what the hell... Today, let the fans of Hillary rejoice.

...more at the link

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13. Hillary Clinton is a fighter? Name one time she's fought for anything besides Hillary Clinton.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5650317

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14. Pennsylvania Victory Song for Hillary

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x123141

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15. GOP Bigot Eruption: McCain Again “Fights” His Party’s Racist Impulses

GOP Bigot Eruption: McCain Again “Fights” His Party’s Racist Impulses

Oliver Willis Published April 23, 2008

The North Carolina Republican party is up on the air with an ad trying to paint Sen. Obama as a radical black nationalist
and McCain writes a letter to try and get them to pull it back.

Maybe I’m too cynical, but I think the McCain camp’s real beef is that its too soon to go to the black nationalist well.
They’d prefer to see these things in October and then “condemn” them in barely heard whispers.

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16. Class War! Bill Clinton's latest kamikaze mission

Class War!

Andrew Sullivan 23 Apr 2008

Bill Clinton directly accuses the Obama campaign of hostility to working class voters. When you see the brutal politics the Clintons are still eagerly deploying, you have to believe this will go to the convention. The Clintons are prepared to use any argument, any Republican tactic, and any social or cultural division to stay in the game. By tactically morphing into Rove Republicans, they are deliberately pivoting off a myth about Obama to make him unelectable. I think the idea that they will withdraw when Obama reaches the actual number of delegates required for the nomination is a myth. They will insist on having their say at the convention and changing the votes of pledged delegates if they need to. This is their party, in their minds. Obama has no right to lead it. Until he waits his turn and the Clintons give their blessing.

To stay in the game, the level and suicidal quality of their attacks on Obama require a similar form of tactic in response. But Obama will not and should not go there. The one profound difference between him and the Clintons is that he will actually not do some things for the sake of power. God knows the Clontons have brought him to the verge of that - but pure cynicism would rebut his core message and destroy his candidacy as surely as the Clintons are trying to do. And to say what needs to be said about the Clintons - the truth about their character and their shared pathologies - would be a horribly divisive and brutal move. It would render the Clintons even more unelectable than they already are, undermine the Obama message and give the White House to the GOP. What's striking to me about this race is that it is the young insurgent who is still acting as the responsible party elder; and the former president who is behaving like a man who will destroy his own party in order to soothe his own sense of entitlement and ego.

After this presidency, after eight years of war and debt and torture and deceit and cynicism, to see the Democratic party self-destruct is really something. They were given a chance to remake the country and regain their soul; and the Clintons could not bear it if they were not the vehicles for such a shift. I don't believe anyone in the Democratic party can or will stop them. This is a kamikaze mission.

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17. Ms Taylor needs help in outlining the charges against Hillary Clinton please please help her

"This could end up being the thread that turned out least like what you thought it might be" Can we add 1000 replies to this one?





http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5659361&mesg_id=5659361

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18. This was my addition

61. sabre rattling with the doctrine of MAD mutually assured distruction
In the long history of partisan campaigning there has been an unspoken rule - do not try and gin up the debate by bringing in Thermonuclear Warfare into a campaign. There have been traditional conventions that both parties have used to make sure that when running for office you don't get specific and worsen international tensions by unnecssarily bringing in nuclear weapons into the heat of the debate.

When asked what you would do if a neighbor was attacked the answer would be something like:

"As your President I would consider it as a serious attack on the vital interests of the United States and we would make an appropriate response."

When asked about nuclear weapons in particular a typical answer would be "I am not going to take anything off the table"


This is her statement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1nmGmtD18


VIOLATES CLINTON LAW OF HOPE AND FEAR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoqVNJ1622U

Senator Clinton has dramatically escalated the rhetoric of thermonuclear warfare in a way that Nixon/Kennedy did not do even when they quibbled about Quemoy and Matsu in 1960. She used fear in her rhetoric and her commercials.



The reaction around the world was swift and damning.



They used words like Impudent, Bellicose, Bush III, Madhouse, Ozone Destroying, Cold War Mentality, warrior like, hawkish in these following excerpts from England, Arab News, Israel, France and American Iranians.




http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jEp2ukq1nzsx5QXn7Kh...
British minister says Clinton's 'obliterate' Iran tone imprudent

11 hours ago

LONDON (AFP) — A British foreign minister said Wednesday that US Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton's threat to "totally obliterate" Iran if it attacked Israel with nuclear weapons was imprudent.

Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, a former United Nations deputy secretary-general and the foreign office minister responsible for Asia, questioned the comments by the New York senator, made in an interview broadcast Tuesday.

"While it is reasonable to warn Iran of the consequence of it continuing to develop nuclear weapons and what those real consequences bring to its security, it is not probably prudent... in today's world to threaten to obliterate any other country and in many cases civilians resident in such a country," he said.

The British government wanted a Middle East -- including Israel -- free of nuclear weapons, he said, responding to a question in the House of Lords, Britain's unelected upper chamber of parliament.

In response to a question on what she would do if the Islamic republic were to attack US ally Israel, Clinton told ABC News: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran.

"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

Clinton said her remark was an attempt to lay out a rationale for a Cold War-style system of deterrence with Tehran.



Hillary Clinton, in her most bellicose comments since the presidential race began, today threatened to obliterate Iran if it launched a nuclear strike against Israel.

Speaking as voters went to the polls in the potentially crucial Pennsylvania primary, the New York senator said: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacks Israel)."

Barack Obama immediately accused her of "sabre-rattling", saying this was the kind of language that had been used by the Bush administration over the last few years and was not helpful.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=120842265427...
54. Regional nuclear war could destroy ozone layer
Recent research suggests a regional nuclear war could destroy the ozone layer and with it, life on Earth. We need to eliminate nuclear weapons around the world, not threaten to use them!
Julie Phillips - USA (04/22/2008 20:14)




http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7 §ion=0&article=109267&d=24&m=4&y=2008
If there were any doubt that if she made it to the Oval Office, Hillary Clinton’s term would be George Bush Mark III, the lady made it plain on the eve of Tuesday’s Pennsylvania primary.

Her campaign had already run TV advertisements featuring pictures of Osama Bin Laden and asking voters who they would really trust as their commander-in-chief, Clinton or Obama. Then Monday night, Clinton drove home her “toughness” by threatening to “obliterate” Iran if it launched an attack on Israel. Given the kind of foreign policy advisers she has (the same as those who paved the way for Iraq war), she may not wait for Iran to “attack” Israel. It can be a pre-emptive “obliteration.”

This is the foreign politics of the madhouse. It demonstrates the same doltish ignorance that has distinguished Bush’s foreign relations. It offers only violence where there should be negotiations and war where there could be peace. At a stroke, Clinton demonstrated to everyone in this region that if she were the next occupant of the White House, Iraq-like death and destruction would be the order of the da


http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/471...
NIAC denounces Clinton’s war rhetoric: "Obliterate" Iran
Washington DC - The National Iranian American Council (NIAC) denounces Senator Hillary Clinton's escalating war rhetoric on Iran. In an interview with Good Morning America, Senator Clinton promised Tuesday to "obliterate" Iran should Tehran develop a nuclear weapon and use it against Israel.

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the President, we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

NIAC regrets that at a time when America needs a new foreign policy - one centered on resolving regional and global conflict through diplomacy in cooperation with US allies - Senator Clinton has chosen a policy that would prolong conflict. Her rhetoric suggests that she would resort to Cold War tactics instead of recognizing the ability to resolve the US-Iran stalemate through diplomacy.

"Senator Clinton's statement reflects a mindset of perpetual conflict that has guided our Iran policy for the last seven years," Trita Parsi, NIAC President, said. "This is disastrous for US national interest, since we are in desperate need of a new and fresh Iran policy aimed at resolving the conflict rather than prolonging it."

Senator Clinton's remarks were made in the context of her proposal to provide a nuclear umbrella to Arab states in the Middle East against Iran. The New York Senator rejected on MSNBC Monday evening the idea that the government in Tehran cannot be deterred.

"Fixation on deterrence, sanctions and threats of war have all failed to advance US national interest and change Iran's nuclear policy," Parsi said. "What we need now is not nuclear deterrence, but nuclear diplomacy."



http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/04/22... /
Tikun Olam-תקון עולם: Make the World a Better Place
Hillary Clinton must think she’s auditioning for the role of Curtis LeMay in a Hollywood film. That’s the only reason (other than a looming PA. primary in which she’s desperate to sound tough as nails) I can figure she’s sounding more like a Gen. Buck Turgidsen in Dr. Stangelove than a presidential candidate. ABC News reports that on this morning’s Good Morning America she will threaten to obliterate Iran if they attack Israel:

…In an interview airing on “Good Morning America” Tuesday. ABC News’ Chris Cuomo asked Clinton what she would do if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons.

“I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president, we will attack Iran,” Clinton said. “In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”

Is this truly how Hillary thinks she’s going to salvage her primary campaign and eke out a win over Obama?? This is precisely the Hillary that so many Democrats have been turned off by–the candidate who thinks she has to out-gun and out-man every other candidate to show she’s tough on defense. The Party doesn’t need another Henry Jackson, Hillary. We need a candidate more like your husband was in 1992–more like…Barack Obama. A candidate appealing to the “better angels of our nature” rather than the warrior within us.


http://www.france24.com/en/20080422-clinton-threatens-o...
AFP - French associated press:


Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton threatened to "totally obliterate" Iran if the Islamic Republic was ever "reckless" enough to launch a nuclear attack on Israel.

She later said her remark was an attempt to lay out a rationale for a Cold War-style system of deterrence with Iran, but her rival Barack Obama accused her of saber-rattling, as Pennsylvania held its crucial presidential primary.

Clinton took her hawkish line in an interview with ABC television, when she was asked what she would do as president if the Islamic Republic were to launch a nuclear strike on Israel.

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran," Clinton said.

"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

Later, Clinton told reporters at a polling station in Conshohocken, outside Philadelphia, that Iran must be made aware of the "high price" it would have to pay for any nuclear strike.

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19. Why aren't the superdelegates committing?

I can think of a reason. In NC, our Dems running for Gov are being tarred as terrorists by the NCGOP for their connection to connection to connection to Pastor Jeremiah Wright.Just as well we get this crap over with now...

Why aren't the superdelegates committing?

Megan Mcardle 22 Apr 2008 10:53 pm

As Matt points out, they undoubtedly already know which way they're going to go, so why are they subjecting us all to this painful ordeal?
Working theories:

1) They are afraid of retaliation by a vengeful Senator Clinton
2) They are afraid that she will somehow get the nomination, and retaliate from the Oval Office
3) They need the Clintons to fundraise for the general
4) No one wants to be the guy who put the last nail in the Clinton campaign's coffin.

Collective action problems: not just for economists any more.

My question is if the media really is an all-powerful force shaping the debate, why can't we band together and tell everyone that the race is over, thus making it true? Where's the vast media conspiracy when you need it?

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36. You mean "if the media really is an all-powerful Farce"

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20. Obama's half eaten breakfast brought bid of USD 20,100 on Ebay

been an interesting day for news......

Obama waffle mania on the web

Asher Moses April 23, 2008 - 12:19PM

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/04/23/obama1_wideweb__470x326,2.jpg

A man who attempted to sell Barack Obama's half-eaten breakfast on eBay has sparked a gold rush on the site, with opportunistic sellers now auctioning off commemorative paintings and badges.

The auction of Obama's leftover waffle and sausage was pulled from eBay, which prohibits the sale of unpreserved food, but not before it reached $US 20,100 ($21,181) and spawned waffle-inspired paraphernalia.

Badges and even an oil painting depicting the leftovers, complete with plate and cutlery, are now for sale on the site. The painting had this morning attracted eight bids and was selling for $US10.75.

"The recent Ebay auction of Barack Obama's Waffle may be no more, but it lives on here as a miniature oil painting," the item description reads.

… The Obama breakfast, which he ate at the Glider Diner in Scranton, Pennsylvania this week, was snagged by a loyal customer of the diner, John Oakes. Oakes said the money raised from the sale would "go to Hillary for President!!!! Haha".
Oakes told the Scranton Times-Tribune that the auction wasn't removed by eBay. Instead, he took the auction down at the request of the diner's owner, Charles LeStrange, who had been blasted with negative calls.

… The day after his Scranton diner visit, Obama had pancakes in Pittsburgh and this time didn't leave a scrap of food on his plate, the Los Angeles Times reported.

…more at the link

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21. Obamish

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22. The smell test: McAwful (Hillary's fund raising)

The smell test: McAwful

Wednesday, April 23, 2008

This doesn’t pass the smell test for me:

On MSNBC just now, top Hillary adviser Terry McAuliffe claimed that by the end of today, the Hillary campaign will have raised $10 million since she was declared winner yesterday.

The number of new donors to the campaign, according to McAuliffe: Fifty thousand.

McAuliffe has always given me the creeps and he was a disaster as DNC chariman. He’s an oily political hack and an unrepentant liar.
This is a sleaze play to quell the damaging chatter that the Clinton campaign is in bad financial shape.
I’m just not buying it, especially coming from a Democrat who praised Faux News last night for being “fair and balanced”:

video here

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23. So my wife texts me at work several times...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5659943

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24. Funky animated gif of Obama verses Clinton

"All in the Games"

By way of my sis-in-law Lotta, here's a funky animated gif: Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton play the oldest game of all. (The text is early on from Neil Gaiman's Sandman, when Morpheus descends into Hell to retrieve his helmet and is challenged to a contest of wits to reclaim his prize, at the risk of unending torment.)

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25. Nothing on the public schedule today?

:shrug:

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32. He Is Taking The Day Off In Chicago (According To A Report I Saw)

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26. The Clintons Campaign the Way Bush Governs

The Clintons Campaign the Way Bush Governs

Jerry and Joe Long, 04.23.2008

If the Clintons have proved one thing during their public life, it is that they are absolutely impossible to embarrass. They are genetically incapable of shame.

Let's begin by giving Richard Nixon his due. To listen to the Watergate tapes is to hear a president desperately concerned with keeping his lies straight. How far we've come.

George W. Bush doesn't care if he lies...never has. He cares about getting through the day, ahead of schedule, if possible.

Which brings us to the Clintons. If this couple has proved one thing during their public life, it is that they are absolutely impossible to embarrass. They are genetically incapable of shame. Utterances that would cause a decent human being to rip their own tongue out are just another talking point to them.

No sane person can list all the lies the Clintons have told in this campaign without having the top of their head come off. Some in the media will take a half-hearted try along the lines of "Senator Clinton, you just said X, but we have video of you yesterday saying Y, and last month you said V and your husband said U"...cue the inappropriate cackle and the feigned ignorance of anything that has happened prior to that exact moment in time.

...All this presents a problem for Barack Obama because he is a worthy man who recoils from shit. The Clintons bathe in shit. It sustains them. And it sustains their hack mouthpieces. Witness Fast Eddie Rendell basically saying on Meet The Press that the Clinton campaign, unlike Obama's, never claimed to be honest. Watch in Indiana as Evan Bayh puts reality through a fun house mirror of vice presidential ambition. Name one officeholder supporting Obama who is even one tenth as vile?

....more at the link
http://www.236.com/blog/w/jerry_and_joe_long/the_clintons_campaign_the_way_6062.php

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27. Hillary's Gay Problem & Her Gay Face

Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Hillary's Gay Problem & Her Gay Face

Hillary is a fake. That statement shouldn't surprise many people. It is well know that she will say anything to anyone (generally exactly what they want to hear, or what she thinks they want to hear) just to get their vote, money, endorsement, support, whatever. Then as soon as she doesn't need them anymore, they don't mean shit to her. It's what I like to refer to as the post-Hillary walk of shame. She will woo (lie to) you, get you drunk, and use you up and kick you to the curb so fast it will make your head spin. A perfect example of this comes from her pandering for the gay community, but only pretending to care when she is pleading for votes from the gay community. Hillary only panders. Whereas Obama consistently talks to people about what they NEED to hear, not what they want to hear. Hillary has a face for every occasion, and you can never believe a damn word she says.

Hillary's Gay Problem
by John Aravosis, AMERICAblog

My friend Phil Attey asks why Obama keeps mentioning gays and lesbians in his speeches - speeches he makes to the public at large, not just gay audiences - and Hillary never does.

...more at the link

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/hillarys-gay-problem-her-gay-face.html

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28. Pastor Wright controversy in North Carolina

the NC GOP is going to run an ad that infers that the two
dem candidates for gov are terrorists or evil because they endorse
Obama, who is evil incarnate because he went to Pastor Wright's church.

We are seeing some good pushback from an unexpected source -
the Brad and Britt Show (talk radio) on FM, which is heard across our state.

This is heard by many listeners, conservative and liberal

Brad is the republican, but seems fairly moderate. Weird is that his wife supports Hillary
Clinton (to his chagrin).

Brad had the NC DEM Party chair on this morning to discuss the ad.

Now, Brad has spent time reading out loud part of Wright's controversial sermon,
to show that the sermon sounds very reasonable and accurate when read "without the screaming".

Brad takes calls, and goes on to say that listeners cannot deny that everything Wright
says is true......

He says that while McCain says he repudiates this commercial, that he probabaly can't do
anything about it (knowing how our state's GOP works), and that this commercial
makes our state look horrible.

Brad and Britt have given probably 2 hours of the show today to this, and I can't think
of better defenders of the truth then they are.

Brad and Britt Show:
http://www.fmtalk1011.com/default.asp

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29. Reality check for Hillary supprters

Thursday, April 24, 2008
Reality check

So Hillary won a state primary where she was 30 something points ahead to begin with. Funny how in a state she was supposed to win, has always lead in, and where she pandered to every constituency she could, she only ended up winning by barely 10 percentage points. Not too impressive if you ask me, in fact if the race had gone on for another week or so in the Keystone state, what the hell is keystone anyway?, Obama would have won it.

So if I were you Hillary supporters,
http://bp1.blogger.com/_JVVaXmiE24g/SBAXKj5JyNI/AAAAAAAAK88/sGcw1WvCEk4/s400/white+people.jpg



I wouldn't brag about how your woman crushed the mighty Obama ad machine. She didn't crush it at all she almost got crushed by it instead. And one more thing supporters of Hillary, you really shouldn't be going around talking about how you think Obama is too weak to go up against Bush McCain in the fall because it only makes you look petty and scared of defeat yourselves. If your candidate has to resort to the fear based tactics of Bush Rove and Bush McCain to get herself elected, then it only proves our contention that Hillary is not really a Democrat at all, she's Republican lite.



Oh yeah, I nearly forgot, I almost had to pull the car over to the side of the road because I was laughing so hard at Hillary's statement that she will renegotiate NAFTA as soon as she gets into office. Correct me if I'm wrong but is that the same NAFTA she once supported when her husband was President? Is it the same NAFTA that has made companies like Wal*Mart so much money? And didn't she sit on the board of Wal*Mart for years and years as it grew and it ate up small business after small business and it ruined town after town? Because if I'm wrong then I'd dearly love to have one of you correct me. Maybe it was a different NAFTA or something.


Or maybe all this goes to show you how she'll say or do anything to get elected. And that includes knocking MoveOn.org, getting in bed with the guy who was behind the vast right wing conspiracy against her husband, and refusing to go after Bush McCain.


I had my reservations about Hillary but at one time I was prepared to vote for her if she was the nominee. But then she said that on day one she and Bush McCain would be ready to lead but Obama would only be ready to give another speech. When I heard that I decided that if she got the nomination then I'm voting for Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney.
http://monkeymucker.blogspot.com/2008/04/reality-check.html

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30. Clinton..would win the nomination if Democrats were Republicans."

Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Stewart on Clinton: "So what it comes down to is, that you would win the nomination if Democrats were Republicans."
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 4/23/2008 11:24:00 PM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Make a comment · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!


UPDATE: Here's a link to the video. Watch it.

I'm sure someone will post video of this somewhere, but Jon Stewart was in rare form tonight.

Stewart showed a clip from earlier today of the shameless Hillary Clinton making the pathetically desperate assertion that "If we had the same system as the Republicans, I'd already be the nominee." Stewart responded, "So what it comes down to is, that you would win the nomination if Democrats were Republicans.... That sounds like one tremendous.... That sounds like one tremendous 'iF-you' to the process."

Despite Clinton's wishes, Democrats aren't Republicans. And, that's why she won't be the nominee. But this strategy may explain her relationship with Richard Mellon Scaife and her campaign's love affair with FOX News.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/stewart-on-clinton-so-what-it-comes.html

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31. Rec this thread -U think: candidate with the most pledged delegates is the presumptive nominee

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5664666

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33. Barack to appear on FauxNewsSunday.

The Obama Watch Comes To An End: Fox News Sunday Gets Obama!

Chris Wallace must be happy...

FishbowlDC has learned that Sen. Barack Obama will finally appear on Fox News Sunday this weekend. A pre-taped interview is slated to take place Saturday in Marion, Indiana.

You'll recall that Wallace started the "Obama Watch" in March (and even put notice of it on his office door) and dated it back to May 2006, when Wallace said Obama agreed to a face-to-face interview on Fox News Sunday.

Obama has largely avoided Fox throughout the campaign, although things changed on January 9 when he did do an interview with the cable news network.

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/television/the_obama_watch_comes_to_an_end_fox_news_sunday_gets_obama_83249.asp

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34. There's nothing elitist about this:

1.5 Million people by May 6, 2008

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php#

[Shae]

35. superdelegate added

4-24-08 - Added Rep. David Wu (OR) for Obama

[me b zola]

42. Wu-hoo!

:woohoo:

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37. The Chronology of Setting the Schedule for the 2008 Dem Pres Primaries

This is what Sen Clinton and surrogate refuse to believe - the truth. And her surrogates were part of setting the rules.

The Chronology of Setting the Schedule for the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primaries

It has been "tradition" for Iowa, NH, Nevada and SC to be the first states to run primaries.
New Hampshire and Iowa's state laws require them to be first. The DNC created a commission to address the timing and schedule of states to participate in the primary.

From the DNC website

Commission on Presidential Nomination Timing and Scheduling

The 2004 Democratic National Convention passed a resolution calling for the creation of the Commission on Presidential Nomination Timing and Scheduling.

The Commission is charged with studying the timing of presidential primaries and caucuses and developing recommendations for the 2008 nominating process. In fulfilling its mission, the Commission will examine all proposals -- incremental and substantive -- and evaluate how those proposals would be implemented. The Commission will carry out its work bearing in mind the Party's commitment to a nominating process that is open and fair to all Democratic voters and presidential candidates and that produces the strongest possible nominee, and will look at all facets of this issue.

The Commission was announced in December 2004. Former U.S. Secretary of Labor Alexis Herman and North Carolina Congressman David Price serve as Co-Chairs of the Commission.

The Commission began its work in March 2005 and held a total of five public meetings, undertaking a thorough review of the current schedule. The Commission received broad input and a variety of useful suggestions and ideas from Democratic elected officials, Party leaders, experienced campaign staff, academic experts, grassroots activists and interested voters.

Accordingly, the Commission recommends:

Preserving the first-in-the-nation status of Iowa and New Hampshire but adding other states in the pre-window period.
Adding 1 or 2 new first-tier caucuses between Iowa and New Hampshire, and 1 or 2 new primaries between New Hampshire and the opening of the window for all other states on February 5, 2008.

Having the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee determine which states should be added, using the following criteria: racial and ethnic diversity; geographic diversity; and economic diversity including union density.

The front-loading of states at the beginning of the calendar has also limited broader participation in the process. The trend toward bunching up on the first day of the window, or in the first month, does not enhance the role of any state or group of states. To be effective and to receive attention from candidates and the press, states must spread out the dates of their contests and restore a more deliberate pacing to the process.

Accordingly, the Commission recommends that the DNC work with State Parties and political leaders to schedule no more than five contests in any one week. Additionally, the Commission has proposed, for consideration by the Rules and Bylaws Committee, a bonus delegate incentive system that would encourage states parties to schedule their events later in the process.

...

The Commission on Presidential Nomination Timing and Scheduling approved its Final Report at its December 10, 2005 meeting, which you can download here.

Details on the first meeting held March 12, 2005 are available here.
Details of the May 14, 2005 meeting are available here.
Details on the July 16, 2005 meeting are available here.
Details on the October 1, 2005 meeting are available here.
Details on the December 10, 2005 meeting are available here.

Some Clinton surrogates who are members of the Commission that voted for the primary rules and sanctions are: PA Gov Ed Rendell (also a former DNC chair) and Clinton advisor Howard Ickes

More Information
Commission Membership
Timing of Presidential Preference Primaries and Caucuses - 1976 to 2004
Evolution of the Democratic Party's Rule on the Timing of Presidential Primaries and Caucuses
2008 Nomination Fact Sheet
State-by-State Process Comparison
National Party Rules Memo

Here's some info from Wikipedia (always verify their sources)

January 2008

Following tradition, the 2008 primary calendar began with the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary. The Nevada caucus and the South Carolina primary were the third and fourth contests sanctioned by the Democratic National Committee. Under the national committee's rules, no state was allowed to hold primaries or caucuses before February 5 with the exceptions of these four states.<23> Michigan and Florida also held early primaries, but under the existing rules, their delegates will not be seated and will not vote at the convention.

Rules and Bylaws Committee

In August 2006, the Democratic National Committee adopted a proposal by its Rules and Bylaws Committee stating that only the four states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina would be permitted to hold primaries or caucuses before February 5, 2008.<41>

Every four years, both parties establish rules under which the upcoming presidential race will be fought. For this election cycle, the Democratic National Committee (DNC), headed by Howard Dean, established a Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC), chaired by former Clinton secretary of labor Alexis Herman and James Roosevelt Jr., grandson of Franklin Roosevelt, to formulate the rules under which states were to select their delegates. The committee presented rules that, in August 2006, were adopted by the DNC; various sections dealt with matters such as compliance with affirmative-action requirements. But the most important had to do with the calendar.

The RBC was the obscure forum in which the much-publicized battle over which states would join Iowa and New Hampshire in early voting—the "pre-window period," in the argot—was fought. The RBC added South Carolina and Nevada and ruled that no other state could hold its primary or caucus before February 5. (This is how February 5 came to be "Super-Duper" Tuesday, as more than a dozen states pushed forward their primaries to the first legally permissible day.)

Other states were unhappy with this decision, notably Florida and Michigan, which have long sought to increase their influence over the nomination. On May 3, 2007, Florida voted to defy the RBC and hold its primary on January 29. In mid-August, Michigan followed suit, moving its primary to January 15.

Leaders in both states were warned repeatedly that continued defiance of the DNC could result in at least 50 percent or even 100 percent of any delegates awarded from a primary held in violation of the calendar being "stripped," i.e., excluded from voting at the convention. Not quite believing that the DNC would follow through, neither budged. Then, on August 25, 2007, the RBC found Florida in noncompliance of its rules. The state was given thirty days to amend its decision, but again did nothing. Since other states were at the time angling to get in on the early voting—you may recall that Iowa and New Hampshire threatened to move theirs to December 2007 in order to remain first—the RBC decided to make an example of Florida. It ruled that all its elected delegates would be voided. The vote of the thirty-member committee had only one dissent.3 Florida could go ahead with a primary if it wished, but its voting would constitute a mere "beauty contest"; as far as the DNC was concerned, it would be as if the Florida primary didn't exist. Florida sued in a federal court and lost. The same process ensued later with respect to Michigan.

All of the Democratic campaigns were notified that Florida and Michigan would not count. As far as is known, none protested at the time. On August 31, all campaigns received a letter from various officials in the four early-voting states asking them to sign a pledge not to campaign in Florida and Michigan.

Within a day, all campaigns agreed. Patti Solis Doyle, the recently fired Clinton campaign manager, said at the time:

We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.... We believe the DNC's rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role. Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar.

People in Florida and Michigan were unhappy, but everyone else was in agreement.


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So things remained, until January 25, 2008. That day, seemingly out of nowhere, the Clinton campaign released a statement announcing that she now supported the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegates. What changed? The answer is obvious. In September 2007, Clinton was the front-runner and the all-but-inevitable nominee. By late January 2008, she was in trouble. She'd lost Iowa, won narrowly in New Hampshire and Nevada, and was about to lose South Carolina the next day by a two-to-one margin. She knew now she had a fight on her hands; she had to scramble for all the delegates she could.

NY Books

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38. 43 North Carolina mayors for Obama

Will Lead Simultaneous Early Voting Events Statewide Today at 1 PM

In a sign of Senator Obama’s broad, statewide organization, the Obama campaign today announced the endorsement of 43 North Carolina mayors, mayors pro tem, and former mayors, representing cities large and small, from Raleigh to Roper. To encourage North Carolinians to vote early, more than a dozen of these mayors will be voting early today at 1 p.m. at their local One Stop Early Voting locations.

"As a mayor, I’m on the front lines of local economic development," said Mayor Bill Bell of Durham. "We need a president who will work with us to solve the problems we face, help working Americans succeed, and usher in a new era of prosperity."

“I’m honored to have the support of so many mayors from across North Carolina who are committed to working hard to change America,” said Senator Obama. “These mayors understand what leadership is, and how important it is to bring people of diverse backgrounds together to make change happen for our working families and our communities. Their support is incredibly important to this campaign – and I look forward to working with them to build a stronger economy where Main Street thrives, not just Wall Street.”

FULL LIST OF MAYORS ENDORSING SENATOR OBAMA
Terry Bellamy, Mayor, Asheville
Leni Sinick, Former Mayor, Asheville
Linda Blackburn, Mayor, Ahoskie
Frank Wilson, Mayor, Bolton
Loretta Clawson, Mayor, Boone
Kevin Foy, Mayor, Chapel Hill
Mark Chilton, Mayor, Carrboro
Harold Weinbrecht, Mayor, Cary
Harvey Gantt, Former Mayor, Charlotte
Linda Ingram, Mayor, Conetoe
Darryl Moss, Mayor, Creedmoor
Malcolm Johnson, Mayor, Dover
N. Carnell Robinson, Mayor Pro Tem, Dunn
William Bell, Mayor, Durham
Cora McFadden, Mayor Pro Tem, Durham
Perry Blanks, Mayor, East Arcadia
Warnie Bishop, Mayor, Enfield
Roy Bell, Mayor, Garysburg
Yvonne Johnson, Mayor, Greensboro
Keith Holiday, Former Mayor, Greensboro
Mildred Council, Mayor Pro Tem, Greenville
Horace Reid, Mayor Pro Tem, Hertford
Matthew Block, Mayor, Laurinburg
Phil Bazemore, Mayor Pro Tem, Monroe
Eulis Willis, Mayor, Navassa
Lewis Brown, Former Mayor, Navassa
Jerry Merrick, Mayor Pro Tem, Navassa
James Knox, Mayor, Northwest
Randolph Voller, Mayor, Pittsboro
Charles Meeker, Mayor, Raleigh
James West, former Mayor Pro Tem, Raleigh
Estelle Sanders, Mayor, Roper
Perry Dixon, Mayor, Sandyfield
James Mill Sr., Mayor, Scotland Neck
Melvin Broadnax, Mayor, Seabord
Howard Morgan, Mayor, Sedalia
Wilbert Harrison, Mayor, Speed
Ethel Clark, Mayor, Spring Lake
Donald Davis, Mayor, Snow Hill
Betty Gholston, Mayor, Wagram
George Draper Jr., Mayor, Weldon
Robert Spivey, Mayor, Windsor
Vivian Burke, Mayor Pro Tem, Winston-Salem
Carl Lee Sr., Mayor, Lewiston Woodville
Come to NC and Help Us Make a Difference

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/zachedwards/gGCBRX

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39. Friday 4/26 Veterans for Obama

Major Paul "Bud" Bucha (RET)
Army Veteran and Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient
Will be speaking on behalf of Senator Obama On Friday April 25, 2008 at 9:00 am.
Methodist University's Science Building Auditorium
He will address the Senator's Defense and Foreign Policy positions.
The event is free and open to the public.
.

You will also have the opportunity to catch a shuttle ride to a One-Stop Voting location, remember you can vote early if you are registered or you can REGISTER and VOTE at the same time.
This is an awesome opportunity!


To RSVP or for more information, Please contact:

Delio Calzolari [phone] or at [e-mail]

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40. WITH WHAT MORAL AUTHORITY DO THEY SPEAK?

Can someone tell me with what moral authority do the likes of
Joe "Dead Intern" Scarboro and "Racist" Pat Buchanon or David "Dances With Rove" Gregory
advise anyone anywhere on who is the fit candidate to be president?

Or with what superior judgement do these losers tell us who
is winning or losing, when everything they say goes agsinst the
facts and match

[jefferson_dem]

41. Obama in Chicago, speaks to IN

Obama in Chicago, speaks to IN
Posted April 24, 2008 5:13 PM

by John McCormick

Sen. Barack Obama managed to campaign Thursday in Indiana without ever setting foot in the state.

On a day he was supposed to taking off, his campaign alerted news organizations late in the morning that he would be making an unexpected speech at Chicago's McCormick Place convention center this afternoon.

That speech was to the annual convention of the United Food and Commercial Workers, a union organization with more than 1 million members in the United States that endorsed him earlier this year.

It was the latest example of Obama's home field advantage in Indiana, where the May 6 primary is viewed as a critical test for him and Sen. Hillary Clinton in their marathon for the Democratic nomination.

A fifth of that state's Democratic voters live in the Chicago media market, meaning they will likely see extensive coverage of Obama's appearance on their evening news.

The Illinois Democrat sought to rally the union vote, a critical part of the Indiana electorate.

"You were fighting with me in Wisconsin, you're fighting with me in Indiana, and I understand some of you just came back from Pennsylvania," Obama said.

Obama never mentioned his Democratic opponent, Sen. Hillary Clinton. Instead, as he is increasingly doing, he kept his focus on Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee. He specifically mentioned tax cuts McCain once opposed.

"They may have stopped offending John McCain's conscience somewhere along the road to the Republican nomination, but George Bush's economic policies still offend my conscience," Obama said.

Obama heads back to Indiana on Friday. Clinton will be there as well, campaigning in Bloomington, Gary and East Chicago.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/obama_in_chicago_speaks_to_in.html