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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:44 PM
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"Close the deal?" Doesn't it sound like HRC thinks the presidency's for sale?
:shrug:

Just sayin'...

NGU.


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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:45 PM
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1. No, it sounds like there are quite a few skeptical buyers.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:52 PM
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7. I'm intersted to hear the logic on this
Some voters in PA decided they like Clinton better.

Why does that indicate that voters in, say, Virginia are now skeptical?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:03 AM
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12. This has nothing to do with Virginia.
If Obama's a lock he should have no problem in shutting down the primary in the next 9 contests. But he's not and he won't. Conservatively, he's likely to lose at least 3 of them, KY, WV and PR. She's likely to remain competive in 3 of the other 6. With all the hype, momentum and cash he gained, he should win them all. But he won't. A lot of people are still skeptical of him and he cannot win the nomination without the intervention of the superdelegates.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:42 AM
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19. That still makes no sense.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:44 AM by wileedog
What does the fact that the majority of states before have voted for him have to do with Kentucky voting for him?

Why should a bunch of people in WV, who really don't fit his demographic or style, care that the people in Wisconsin love the shit out of him?

Its a complete non sequitur

The majority of pledged delegates have been cast in his favor. They will be no matter what.

Why does a vote at the end of the race in KY mean anything other than people in KY don't particularly like him?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:31 AM
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38. And it is not necessarily true that they don't like him, they just like her better.
This is what happens when both candidates are so strong.

It's not a mystery.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:31 AM
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39. So we're basing the election now based on backwards-assed Ohio, PA, and Kentucky
What.The.Fuck?

Since when is the expectation that a candidate must win 100% of all the states? What a silly argument to make, but coming from Hillary supporters, I can't say I'm surprised.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:10 AM
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15. Here's the logic...
HRC defenders don't consider the presidency for sale; nonetheless, they do consider the voters "buyers."

:crazy:

NGU.


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:46 PM
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2. Why not. Under the Clintons, everything else was for sale n/t
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:47 PM
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3. I don't know, I've heard some of my less enlightened male
friends use it when they were taking a woman home from a bar, just sayin'
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:49 PM
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4. Ewww.
They sound like real winners. :eyes:

NGU.


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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:52 PM
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6. They're the instant asshole type...
great until you add alcohol...
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:50 PM
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5. It is, and she intends to buy it.
It's the American way.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:52 PM
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8. How can he 'close the deal' if she won't quit?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:56 PM
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9. The deal is closed. Senator Obama is our nominee. Someone needs to tell Clinton this.
She needs to be winding down her campaign and the rhetoric.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:58 PM
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10. The choice of corporate terminology is interesting.
Good pick-up.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:59 PM
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11. Didn't O just try to buy PA?
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:05 AM
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14. no, he made her spend her money, never underestimate a Chess player
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:05 AM by SunsetDreams
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:30 AM
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16. So he spent bazillions of dollars on ads so she'd go broke?
Not because he was trying to win?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:04 AM
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13. No not at all
They know its a rental
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expada Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:38 AM
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17. "close the deal" is a figure of speech. A metaphor. A saying
But you think DU'ers are stupid enough to believe she was talking about a transaction.

Oh wait, they ARE stupid enough.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:31 AM
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21. All DUers are stupid? Here's an image you might want to familiarize yourself with...
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:34 AM
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22. with that one, you might want to choose ignore...
gobsmackingly assinine at every turn;)
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:36 AM
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23. It's just been put out of it's misery.
Pizza time.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM
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28. It appears that poster is now quite intimate with that image :)
Good call!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:40 AM
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18. "DEAL ... or NO DEAL?" ..i'm feelin' good about case # 9 Howie!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:26 AM
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20. LOL... I was thinking that ol' Howie should emcee the next debate...
:rofl:

NGU.


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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:45 AM
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24. It's a modified "seal the deal" she learned from Bill.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:24 AM
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32. Either way, she calls it a "deal," not a solemn trust with the American people.
NGU.


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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:31 AM
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34. I was making a bad joke.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:11 AM
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25. No, she sounds like she thinks she owns it.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:24 AM
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26. ABC should have asked about that at the debate
instead they focused on the silly stuff.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:39 AM
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27. The question is
Why couldn't SHE "close the deal" on Super Tuesday?

With all of her backing and name recognition and money (going into Feb 5) and expectations, SHE should have "closed the deal." But she didn't. She blew a huge lead. Then she was slammed in 11 straight contests.

SHE didn't "close the deal;" and she is desperately spinning her failure as Obama's failure.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:46 AM
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31. .
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM
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29. If it was Obama would have bought it already
It isn't like he hasn't had the most money ever.

Not being able to close the deal means he has not been able to sell himself to voters.

To the democrats. He hasn't gotten the support of half the democrats even, in the closed primaries he loses.

Hope this helps.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:45 AM
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30. With all the money Obama is paying for it? Hope he gets a receipt.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:39 AM
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33. He's the first POTUS candidate to have changed the money equation...
...and you slime him? :eyes:

NGU.


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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:00 AM
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35. First place gets a Cadillac, second place gets a set of steak knifes
Put that coffee down!!!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:25 AM
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36. A Gucci shoe tree...
And a baby's arm holding an apple.

("What Do You Want From Life?" by The Tubes)

NGU.


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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:28 AM
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37. Just another corporate transaction.
:thumbsdown:
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