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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:54 AM
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Hillary Clinton did not raise $10 million dollars in 24 hrs
I know bullshit when I see or smell one and this is one of those days that we need
to call her and her campaign on their BS.

Hillary could not raise $10 million in a month but could do that in 24 hrs is beyond
belief, this is another of those sniper moment.

This is the same ol' Bullshit.

She continues her sniper moment again, what makes you think Hillary Clinton
will change when she gets to the White House?

Don't bet on it......



:puke:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:55 AM
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1. Axlerod may be the king of message control, but Clinton knows how to set that Media Narrative
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:14 AM
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62. The GOP set the media narrative. Hillary benefits with it FOR NOW.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:56 AM
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2. Nor did she win PA by 10%
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM
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37. Nor did she
"win" Michigan and Florida. OR Texas.

But that's what we keep hearing.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:57 AM
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3. Prove it.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:00 AM
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6. Where did she come up with 7 mil in 3 hours?
I saw Hillary on the morning shows this morning (video link from Today Show attached-see 4:45 mark) saying the campaign pulled in 3 million overnight. 3 hours later McAuliffe is on Ed Schultz and says they raised $ 10 million. What gives?

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24270562#2427...


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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:02 AM
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9. Prove they didn't.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:11 AM
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21. Well, maybe on the 20th of May we can. We'll see.
It'll be interesting to see the numbers.
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:30 AM
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25. Ok Sherlock..
where's the conclusive and incontrovertable proof that they did raise 10 Million in 24 hours? If you make a claim, the burden of proof is on the claimant to prove said claim.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:30 AM
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26. Not in Hillaryland.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:01 AM
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59. Prove they did or you're a liar
Sorry - I think I just channeled somebody...
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Avalon6 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:01 AM
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7. She raised more money in 24 hours than she did in the whole month of March?
Sounds dubious to me.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:01 AM
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8. Try this...
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

But Micah Sifry, of TechPresident, a fair-minded guy without a dog in the fight, doesn't buy some of Clinton's claims:

An email from Terry McAuliffe, Clinton campaign chairman, that I received three hours ago, says "More than 50,000 people have contributed to the campaign for the very first time in the last 24 hours alone." If 80% of Clinton's donations are from new givers, that implies a total number of about 60,000 donations. If we're very generous and assume an average donation of $100, which is high for first-time donors, that gives Clinton a current take of at most $6 million.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:44 AM
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41. Obama also got 50,000 new donors!
he has that widget, and it has gone up at least that much.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:25 AM
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64. Prove it!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:34 AM
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66. Okay - here! 4/22 7:00 pm. - 1,373,029 donors - 4/23 - 1,427,575 donors
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:45 AM
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42. Terry "It's her turn" McAuliffe wouldn't lie, would he?
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:05 AM
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57. He would never lie
He follows the principals of Hillary Clinton, and Bill, and we all know they would "never" tell a lie, don't we?:eyes:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:02 AM
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12. It's up to Clinton to prove it - extraordinary claims and all that.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:49 AM
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28. People might just surprise you
becareful of what you asking....
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:35 PM
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71. The AP and several other sources reported it at 3.5.
The confusion came when the Clinton campaign said it was on track to raise 10 million in 24 hours when the that money came in a few hours after the polls closed in PA. A lot of so-called journalists didn't parse this very well. The campaign apparently thought their donors weren't going to go to sleep and then wake up in the morning to realise she only netted +11 delegates, and would continue pouring cash into her campaign.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:59 AM
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4. But but but her website says she did...though it doesn't have any figures
which made me a bit suspicious when I checked it earlier today. Next month's FEC reports will be interestin, although the contest will probably be over by the time it comes out.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:00 AM
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5. Half is probably reserved for GE use.
More pathetic spin.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:04 AM
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13. I think we have a winner.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:07 AM
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15. does not matter. OP is a LIE
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 02:20 AM by rodeodance
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:17 AM
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23. What is the definition lied? I think a better description would be "wrong"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:21 AM
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24. when the OP puts out a subject without a simple goggle to Hillary's website which
would probably take a minute at most.


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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:56 AM
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45. You would have to know that the OP knew that Clinton's site said that.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:02 AM
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10. Keep this on file so we know when the totals roll.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:02 AM
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11. Keep this on file so we know when the totals roll.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:06 AM
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14. *******YES SHE DID*****CHECK HER WEBSITE
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Avalon6 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:09 AM
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17. No candidate has raised that much in 24 hours, I don't believe it for one second
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:09 AM
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18. It's probably only $9.2 million.
They suffer from math illiteracy.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:58 AM
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56. !
:rofl: Good one!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:10 AM
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20. Baby!? Don't blow their minds...there's not much left to blow...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:43 AM
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40. All I see is:
"on Track to Raise $10 Million Online in the 24 Hrs"

That does not mean that she did it. That rate could have ended quickly.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:08 AM
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16. Another personal loan?
Remember how she sneaked the last one in until she was required to report it?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:09 AM
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19. Oh yeah, almost forgot about that.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:48 AM
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51. You beat me. That was my first thought. So she wrote herself another check.
All that Chinese and Colombian money sure is coming in handy.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:11 AM
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22. My guess it that at some point they raised $1million in 2 hours so they are extrapolating that to
$12million is 24 hours. Or something stupid like that.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:44 AM
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27. If they showed the details it would be more impressive
Their site says:

WE DID IT!
10 MILLION IN 24 HOURS

How much is from donors and how much is another personal loan? Or for the GE?

In fact, in politico doublespeak, the two statements could just be that -- two statements. "We did it" referring to winning PA and "10 Million in 24 Hours" referring to desirable goal.

I say, show me da money!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:52 AM
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30. Thats what I say,
she can't raise that in a month but raise it in 24 hrs,

show us the money.....

I certainly would like to see how they did it, who are those

wonderful and motivated voters to pour $24 million on a campaign

thats has no way of winning the nomination.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:14 AM
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63. doesn't even say THAT anymore
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:52 AM
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29. 50,000 new donors out of 60,000 total donors? Something fishy.
This seems like a very unusual pattern.

Why would all these new people be moved to donate and existing donors (at least those who haven't maxed out) not be moved to donate?

If it were just excitement about the PA result, I would expect people who were following it closely would donate more.

There's something else going on here.

Possibilities:
- Total lie?
- Limbaugh listeners - something like that?
- Pleas for cash really worked.

Any other theories?





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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:53 AM
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31. Its a plain lie total BS n/t
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:47 AM
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44. Money from GOP?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:42 AM
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47. Ding Ding Ding Ding!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:39 PM
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69. GOP equal sabotage n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:21 AM
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32. And the pigs squeal!
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:25 AM
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33. Or did she loan her campaign another $10 M?
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 03:28 AM by alphafemale
Yep. This rings of sniper fire, Chelsea jogging at ground zero on 9/11, getting named for mountain climbers and all other manner of bullshit.

on edit..typo
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:56 AM
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34. and how much was she in debt for?
oh yeah..10 million dollars. So basically, all the money you saps gave her in those 24 hours just went to pay what she already owed. Don't worry though, you should be protected by lemon laws......
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:04 AM
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35. I know for an absolute fact that she just raised another $100 a few minutes ago.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:50 AM
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53. Good start!
$9,999,900.00 left to account for.

Let's roll up our sleeves, gang!
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forintegrity Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:34 AM
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36. Maybe all Limballs doing?
Make you wonder. I don't belive it either!

But it it is true, she can pay off all her bills and walk away debt-free now. Key words: walk away!!!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:38 AM
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38. Then the media should monitor if the campaign with this new
$10 million pays the bills outstanding for months.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:43 AM
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39. We'll find out in mid-May, when the FEC filings come out, that this too was a lie....


...and she knows it.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:17 AM
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43. Would the Clintons lie about something, when they couldn't get caught?!?!
I mean they would never even dream of lying. After all once you get caught, no one believes you after that.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:57 AM
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46. Last I saw on MSNBC
they still had as being "on track" (their quotes, not mine) to raise 10 mil. as of this morning. Whatever on track means....

They probably raised a lot. Probably not as much as they claim. But they absolutely HAD to push this to the media because of the narrative being that the campaign is broke and will not have the $ to be effective in NC and IN.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:44 AM
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48. I don't know how you would prove or disprove it, but that's what's reported on her website.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:47 AM
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49. and you're just lying to put her down to elevate your candidate.
same old bullshit in support of Obama. I really don't think most of you know how to positively support your candidate without attacking Clinton with the cheap political tactic of calling her a liar.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:48 AM
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50. Cheap political tatic? She's a liar. It's a fact. (nt)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:12 AM
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60. Hillary's inconvenient lies are inconvenient truths.
It's really quite remarkable how folks contort their minds to distance themselves from FACTS.

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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:41 AM
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68. What would yo expect from a bunch of juveniles?
I would wager that 50% of them have never voted for a president in the GE. They know very little about politics except that their Obama is the answer to everything! He is their messianic figure. When actually, he is sort of an empty suit just out of the Illinois legislature four years ago. Oh, he speaks beautifully, but can't debate effectively.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:49 AM
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52. We'll see... she has to release the official numbers at some point...
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:50 AM
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54. I don't see any claim that she did.
WE DID IT
10 Million in 24 hours

can mean a TON of different things.

With the way she has been telling the truth lately, we know that doesn't mean what she wants people to think it means.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:26 PM
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70. I didn't see anything on her site.
that mentioned 10 mil.

I saw 100,000 donors since PA... But she was asking for $5, right? I realize a lot of people gave more than that, but to average $100 a piece from 100,000 people makes me wonder where the people who so significantly brought up the average were 3 months ago.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:51 AM
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55. second i heard this i knew it was probably a lie
she knows that all it takes is a good news cycle or a lie that keeps going like she won texas, or won by double digits even though its 9%, heck even colbert said 10 last night, ugh....jon at least had it right at 9.2%.

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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:06 AM
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58. 8 million was a loan to herself. ;)
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:13 AM
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61. the FEC keeps pretty close track of all that... its hard to fake....
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:26 AM
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65. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait until the 20th of May to verify.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:37 AM
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67. She must have gotten another one of those mysterious 8 mil dollar windfalls
Like on March 31st
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