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Thu Apr-24-08 05:34 AM
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Poll question: In your opinion, why are the right-wing media supporting Senator Hillary Clinton? |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 05:37 AM by Syrinx
I've just watched a bit of Scarborough, and a little of "Fox And Friends."
I have lost count of the little ways with which they are promoting Clinton over Obama. It is maddening.
Fox is even saying that the North Carolina ad featuring Jeremiah Wright is being sponsored by the same statewide Democratic candidates that support Obama for president. :crazy:
And Scarborough, bless his heart, is spinning desperately for Clinton, with a helpful assist from Andrea Mitchell.
Willie Geist, it seems, is dazed and confused, while occasionally trying to get a little truth injected into the discussion.
Beyond the on-air "talent," for lack of a better word, Clinton has been embraced and endorsed by the likes of Rupert Murdoch and Richard Mellon-Scaife, the person that has, in the past, accused her and her husband of murder.
Why do you think that the nefarious, right-wing puppeteers are pushing so hard for Hillary Clinton?
Is it because they feel confident they can beat her in November? Or is it because she is on their team?
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:36 AM
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1. Please give me the option of "all of the above" |
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:37 AM
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:39 AM
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3. I didn't see the program you just watched. But the only media -- corporate or otherwise -- |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM by bluetrain
that I've come across in the last six months has been almost laughably bashing Clinton and promoting Obama. I have not seen anyone take her side except for independent bloggers or anonymous posters on message boards or people I know personally.
Anne Coulter doesn't count because she's a performance artist.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM
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7. You are the same poster providing us with Rove's plan on Obama...... |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM by FrenchieCat
and saying that we should be worried and that you are concerned....yet you can not see the media bias in favor of Hillary?
That's rich!
That let's me know where you are really coming from.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:45 AM
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13. I'm as left as you get. Take my word for it or not. I've been a member here since 04. |
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You can probably dig up the posts where I spoke to a whistle blower in FL about the fraud back then.
I do not see a Clinton bias in the slightest. In fact, I see exactly the opposite.
Doubt me all you like. I know where I stand. And it's much to the left of either Clinton or Obama. There are even issues which I feel Kucinich is too centrist on.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:41 AM
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8. They do, non stop, be glad you havent seen it. |
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Hillary herself has made countless appearances on Fox news, as well as her surrogates. They appear to like them better than, the other media.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:56 AM
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21. The last piece of Corporate TV I watched was the PA debate on YouTube many days after the fact. |
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You have to understand that, at this point, my only goal is to not have McCain in the White House. Previous to that, I caught about fifteen minutes of Gwen Ivans on PBS back in February. The entire panel was repeating the same talking points while acting like they were having independent ideas. It was laughable. And frightening. Robots. It was all anti-Clinton. All biased. And I asked the people I was watching it with whether it was always this biased. They looked at me befuddled. This is a regular show they watch. I further explained, well, we just saw 6 (-?) people say the exact same thing, oftentimes not even bothering to paraphrase each other, does that seem strange to you at all? They're so fucking intellectually lazy they hadn't noticed and, at this point, couldn't even begin to start thinking for themselves.
Really. Turn it all off. Listen to the stump speeches. Take Murdoch debates with a pile of salt. Look at their records. The specifics of their proposed plans. But these talking heads are fucking toxic to democracy -- as is an electorate too exhausted to employ independent thought.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:30 AM
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30. Rove explained back in 2007 to Repugs |
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that they were not to go after Hillary because that would "unite the party" behind her. Well, the MSM has pushed this issue of Hillary getting out, etc, etc, which has only caused the public, especially women, to rally behind her. The Repugs won't be seen as doing this, per se, but the MSM will do it for them. This whole "bashing" is meant to HELP HER, while at the same time, harm Obama because he is perceived to be getting some kind of "free ride" (undeserving black man taking from white woman what is owed her due to "extreme liberalism") and also portrayed as being the one that is calling for Hillary's exit.
It works to their bigger plan. Which is really just scary.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:39 AM
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4. I think it's pretty obvious to anyone who's an objective and rational observer. |
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They think she'll be far easier to beat. John McCain is perceived (wrongly, in my opinion) as something of a maverick within the Republican Party, and to have moderate tendencies that the hardcore conservative GOP base distrust. Therefore, a lot of the GOP base may be disinclined to vote for him in November, instead opting to sit out the election. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, is positively loathed by a significant percentage of that same GOP base, who will be more motivated by their hatred to vote AGAINST her than they will be to vote FOR McCain.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:53 AM
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Please, she's a moderate Democrat fighting against the combined powers of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Barack Hussein Obama. Who the fuck do you think they're gonna want to see win this thing? Which Republican would you rather lose to, Paul Wolfowitz or Lincoln Chafee?
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:39 AM
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5. It's not the Dem candidates supporting Obama, while I'm not |
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denying there could be some from the Opponent. This is mainly the RNC if not entirely the RNC. Fox is the worst pukefest of a network. They can kiss my Dem behind, and stick it where the sun don't shine!
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:42 AM
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George Soros (Obama's puppeteer) controls all MSM except Fox. Clintons have money ties with Fox.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:43 AM
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11. no I'm not buying that junk Not this time! |
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:46 AM
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obviously, the MSM isn't acting normal. There are indeed money ties between Soros and MSM...and he has a strong history of manipulating MSM in other countries.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:40 AM
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6. They want Obama bloodied up,they helped her in Tx with over 100k votes |
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Richard Mellon Scaife has endorsed her because the right doesn't have to fear a Clinton administration. Keep in mind they already know she has lost,that was pointed out on Fox Sunday show with Bill Kristol.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:42 AM
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10. They want her so they can beat her. |
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But if she wins they think she's more likely to play ball. And these stupid "news" channels only exist for ad money. So, all three.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:53 AM
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17. I think that's about right |
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:50 AM
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14. Compared to past elections, both candidates are raking in some remarkable |
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amounts of money and much of it is spent on advertising. The media is willing to encourage this contest in any way they can to keep the big bucks flowing their way.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:51 AM
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15. Which Republican would you rather lose to, Paul Wolfowitz or Lincoln Chafee? |
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She's the obvious lesser of two evils in any serious Republican's mind. Barack Obama has the support of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry behind him and is widely regarded as being much more liberal than Hillary who is generally regarded as a moderate Democrat. If they have to lose to one or the other, they would much rather lose to Hillary than Obama.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:52 AM
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16. They want her because if Obama is denied the nomination, then they assume |
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the new young voters he has brought into the party will lose interest and not vote in the GE. These new folks use cell phones exclusively and are hard to poll. The theory must be to make them say "whatever...outta here" and they lose interest politics for a long time, thus insuring a GOP dynasty.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:54 AM
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19. Just think of the bags of trash she has in the back room. |
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I am sure the ads are being made up now. And I am sure Bill will be the co-president. Just how the hell is she going to keep him out of it? After all she rode in on his coat tails. He will claim his pound. Funny it is one person she does not say she is part of. We have watched this women ride the coat tails of this man right up the power halls in DC and I am sure she will have to let him into the Office for pay back. He was a pretty good President only I hated this NAFTA stuff and 'fast track' stuff but 8 years in long enough.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:55 AM
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20. If the right-wing media are in favor of something, whatever it is, |
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then it's most likely something to be totally against, as far as I'm concerned.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:02 AM
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22. Only because she would be easier to beat. |
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:03 AM
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that the republicans were afraid of Obama's following--in their eyes, that is the worst case scenario--a democratic nominee with a large and active public following. A following that will make a big deal out of a stolen election this time around. a following that is likely to take to the street when they screw with their votes. And a following that won't sit still while they swiftboat our candidate.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:10 AM
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24. Actually, with Obama not being able to carry blue collar voters... |
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...in the industrial Midwest, Repubs are quickly changing their minds of who they would rather face.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:14 AM
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25. None of the above. They're trying to stretch it out... |
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... but not because of $$$. They think the longer she beats up on Obama the easier he will be to defeat in Nov.
Limbaugh and others have said as much.
They want to drrraaaggg it out as long as possible.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:14 AM
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(e) radical-RW is happy to interfere with the opposing team.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:24 AM
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27. Hillary Clinton is on their team |
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and Rove is working for her. Connect the Dots.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:25 AM
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28. She's the rethugs "stalking horse." |
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And, of course, Hillary is happy to play that role.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:28 AM
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29. The media I hear promotes Obama, not Clinton. |
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Now I admit, I don't listen to Scarborough and Fox but I have heard the networks basically give Obama free ads in the middle of their "news".
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