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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:36 AM Original message |
I like Obama, if he wins the nomination I will vote for Obama, but.... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. He won't lose WI or MN. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Not if he loses Michigan. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. And he outpolls Clinton AND McCain in Michigan, so...do you have a point? |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. he out polls right now....that will change. Take it to the bank. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
52. You're right...and what happened to his 6-7 point lead nationally |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Good point. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
66. Spider, I never see those polls. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Apples and Oranges |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Yeah, because he's behind McCain in most recent polls? |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Not if he has already.... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
64. I see your Hillary avatar... |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. All he has to do is show that McLame is even worse than Bushco |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. is this your first Presidential Election? |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
116. It's my 7th. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
107. But he's already said McLame would be better than Bush ... |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. He actually polls better against McCain in WI and MN than Clinton |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
82. Food for thought |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
2. And you know all of this because? n/t |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Because I read books and stuff about voting patterns and trends |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes he will beat McCain |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
87. I am very familiar with the numbers..... |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #87 |
120. edit: never mind |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. The polls say he will beat McCain |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. show me your polls......... |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. He certainly has a better chance of beating McCain then hillary does. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. nonsense.....go look at the polls..... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
7. "I am sorry to tell you this, but Obama will not beat McCain." |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. OK.....lets look at this.... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. You're extrapolating from now through November? Ok..... |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Im not extrapolating anything. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
65. You made a prediction about November supported by April polls - I read your post |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #65 |
88. Let me talk slowly for you..... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Changing the subject? You posted April polls to support your claim - keep pretending you didn't... |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I posted april polls to demonstrate how close it is, without the attacks having even started. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. First of all, Obama currently polls better in MI against McCain |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Obama polls 43% in a state that Kerry won with almost 52%.... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. wait til we actually have a nominee. wait til people |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
50. More than anything in the world.... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. That logic is faulty |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. faulty logic? |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. the polls are out there, the science is out there, the history is out there.... |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Yeah, its all about race to you people isn't it |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Feel free to stop your projection.... |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
40. My logic is faulty? Youre serious? |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Race again. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Youre such an idiot.....feel free to ignore the reality in this country. |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Umm..Bush didn't WIN re-election |
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RobertDevereaux (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. Obama will trounce McCain! |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. There will be no trouncing......I'm telling you right now that Obama will lose states Kerry won. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Nonsense! Obama will win every state Kerry did, and several more. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. I'm looking at this objectively..... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
118. No, you're not looking at anything objectively. You're looking to start fights. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. Wow! I've never heard this before. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
43. Ill add your response to the list of people who can come back in November... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
117. Now you're gonna be here in November, after saying three days ago you were leaving?! |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. I think your crystal ball is cloudy |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Its clear....Im not being blinded by loyalty, just reading facts. |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
14. If Obama loses PA is will be because... |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
39. you're argument is good, but..... |
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WillyToad (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
18. Either candidate will beat grampy McCain |
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olkaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
25. Poor trolling attempt. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Poor thing.... |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. fine by me...what the fuck do I care if you wish to remain ignorant. |
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TexasLady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. North Carolina Repukes started their stupid ads there |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. They are attacking Obama because it looks like he will be the nominee.... |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
63. you call giving him "your full support" by saying he will get his ass kicked |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
93. I'll answer your question, gladly. |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
30. Another Defeatist. McCain will not win. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. really? Then can you explain why.... |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
31. i could like Obama, his supporters make me gag though. n/t |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
32. Thank you very much for your concern. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Its more than just concern....... |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #38 |
74. If he loses, there will be no excuses offered by me. Been around a long time. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
33. i`ll ask sasha what she thinks of john`s chance of beating barack.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I will not only vote for Obama,.... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. how about this reality? In the new Rasmussen MN poll Obama is |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
61. no need to spin it.....but here goes. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #61 |
84. oh for pity's sake. you pulled that out of thin air. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
73. It's not enough to support him. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. mea culpa |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
62. Obama will crush McCain |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #62 |
81. You're right about the new ballgame, just wrong about the score. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
67. McCain is the Sacrificial Dole. He's having his moment of glory, and then it's |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
68. Got ignorant?? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
69. I thought you left this board in a blaze of insults and bitterness days ago... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. He did. I assume by now you've learned that 99.99% of "you suck I'm leaving" posts are just drama. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. where did it say I was leaving? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. "Ill try to find civil discussion elsewhere." |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. that doesnt mean leaving.... |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Nope, just decided it's time to act like the rest of Rome. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
70. WI and MN? You're a joker. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. You'll see........ |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
72. So it will be Guns...and you didn't mention the usual God, Gays, Flags. So what |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. It sure does work, doesnt it.....? |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
109. It sure does. That reminds me of the last major presidential candidate from Illinois, |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I was just reading that in a book by Carville and Begala |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. Have you read "What's The Matter With Kansas?" |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
80. Poll today shows Obama up 14 in MN |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
83. Your premise on what states is amusingly naive because it doesn't factor in the |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Since you're late for class, I'll explain again. |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. So your argument really comes down to "we shouldn't run a black candidate"? |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. no, my argument comes down to... |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Then you argument is pure opinion, speculation, and frankly bullshit. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. OK....when McCain gets sworn in you can come back and remind me how wrong I am. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. the reason that you don't get to teach is because you give more wieght to |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. The fundamental point of my argument is racist? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Its racist because you only factor in electablility arguments |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. You are so clueless.....you miss by a mile. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
86. First of all, no "if". He will win the nomination. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. WOW.......is this supposed to be an enlightened view point? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. for the uninformed this guy is a right wing troll |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. Yep...I thought civil discussion could be found elsewhere and it turns out that it doesnt exist. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
89. I don't like Clinton. But if she's nominated, I'll work my ass off for her. |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
102. I agree with you 100%..... |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
97. There are many times we have been told no we can't we proved yes we can. |
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Utah_liberal (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
105. I come from a 50/50 Obama/HRC household |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. You are 100% correct. |
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
108. So, are you leaving or not? |
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gsaguyCLW54 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. I said I was going to look for intelligent discussion elsehwere, never said I wasnt going to post |
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