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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:17 AM
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At least TWENTY supers set to trickle out for Obama
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:18 AM by FLDem5
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/23/22010/3114/229/502171

Brent Budowsky, a blogger with The Hill, just told Clout host Richard Greene that "at least 20 superdelegates" are privately committed to Obama, and will slowly pledge their support for him over the coming weeks, mainly before the NC primary.

Budowsky stated that his sources were rock solid, and that Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry was the first of these supers to go public. Greene commented that this is a brilliant political strategy by Obama, and I must say I agree with him. Imagine, one or two supers a day coming out for Obama, stretched out over the next 10 to 15 days. (Emphasis added for update)

Think Obama knows what he's doing? This will effectively reverse whatever momentum Clinton got from her PA win. And rather than release the good news all at once, he's going to let it come out just a bit at a time, so it can dominate multiple news cycles.


Link to audio here

Thankfully, this will be over soon!
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:23 AM
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1. If this is true, he will nearly tie Hillary's superdelegate count
Hillary would then need 63% of all remaining pledged + superdelegates for the nomination. Obama would only need 41%.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:24 AM
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3. she needs 68% now.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:23 AM
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2. I hope it's true and not another rumour
to get our hopes up.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:26 AM
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4. Well... last week we heard about Hillary's 100 mayors. Let's wait for the official announcement.
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:27 AM
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5. Hope you're right n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:31 AM
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6. Kaching! Rock n Roll!
:kick:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:27 AM
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18. I just finished my 50th call, Crispini!
50 in 2 days, just like I promised.

25 more tomorrow!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:31 AM
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20. Yay thanks!
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:31 AM by crispini
I did my 25 yesterday and will make my 25 at lunch today. I'll make a new thread then.

Thanks for all your hard work! :salute:
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:34 AM
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7. Crossing fingers it is so.
Trickling is becoming a favorite word of mine. :D
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:36 AM
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8. NC's primary has already started Apr 17 (early voting)
actually it started sooner then that with no excuse vote by mail
on Mar. 17 -

Important Election Dates:
2008 Primary Election May 6th
Last day to register to vote: Apr. 11
Absentee Voting: Mar. 17 - Apr. 29
One Stop Absentee Voting: Apr. 17 - May 3

www.ncvoter.net
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:36 AM
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9. Voting began on April 17 in North Carolina
Important Election Dates:
2008 Primary Election May 6th
Last day to register to vote: Apr. 11
Absentee Voting: Mar. 17 - Apr. 29
One Stop Absentee Voting: Apr. 17 - May 3
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:40 AM
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10. That is so bad-ass! YES!
Now that's what I'm talkin about - smart, smart smart. He makes Bill & Hillary look like bumbling buffoons, albeit vicious, slimy, nasty, scummy, corrupt, rotten-to-the-core buffoons!
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:41 AM
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11. Very smart. Slow and deadly trickle.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:44 AM
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12. Possibly this will make some of his nervous-nellie supporters calm down.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:49 AM
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13. We are hardly nervous
We are simply Fired Up and ready to donate and work for his nominiation.

We are concerned that HC will continue to use her Rove playbook instead of showing us that she really is a Democrat.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:53 AM
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14. Maybe you personally aren't, but there have been a fair number of them here...
... handwringing since the PA returns came in.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:22 PM
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43. Over a single digit win?

Nah!
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:53 AM
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15. This would be *so* much more effective if they came out all at once,
instead of 'trickling' out.

I'm just saying....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:30 AM
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19. The supers who are politicians want some exclusivity of tube time, too.
That's the way it is. But some of them will definitely be grouped together.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:35 AM
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25. I think you're right.
This way it also slowly nudges her out instead of picking her ass up and tossing it over the cliff.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:33 AM
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23. I think the campaign is doing it right.
Sure, putting them all out at once would make a big splash, but then what? Better to have them in reserve. Hillary makes some fundraising landmark or something -- release a few SDs. Slow news day -- release a few SDs. Etc. Etc.

drip, drip, drip. :D
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:30 PM
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54. Yes!
These are their ace-in-the-hole... no matter what kind of garbage Hillary manages to throw his way, they'll always have 2 or 3 Supers to throw out to change the tone of the dialog. If they put them all out on one day... it'd be one great day, but the cumulative effect will be greater after a week or two. Wait and see:)
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:00 AM
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16. haha, i love the propoganda.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:37 AM
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28. Well, you ARE a CLinton supporter. EOM
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:00 AM
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17. K/R.
:kick:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:31 AM
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21. SWEET! Kiss goodbye to that superdelegate lead!
That was perhaps the last advantage she has, and it's about to go away.

Soon, she'll be behind or barely even in all the metrics that count.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:32 AM
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22. I'll believe it when I see it
Honestly, if these "insider reports" are correct about SD's flocking to Obama, what are they waiting for? Do it now and drive the nails in the coffin, or quit leaking that you're "considering" pledging your support to him.

I'm getting the impression that more than a few of the superdelegates are fishing for favors/positions and trying to be kingmakers rather than caring much about who is going to win the primary.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:34 AM
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24. I've seen too many of these stories
It get to be like the boy who cried "wolf" in the end.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:35 AM
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26. Still waiting on the 50. Or was it 150?
Hard to keep track of all the Super-Rumors...
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:36 AM
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27. it was one BRAZILLION.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:40 AM
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29. Gisele Bündchen endorsed Obama?
Really?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:42 AM
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31. no... Donna.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:43 AM
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34. are you still waiting on Hillary to net 5 since Feb. 5? Yep.
too bad she doesn't have any rumors...
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:41 AM
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30. Look at that!
This is great news! :applause:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:01 AM
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32. :)
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:35 AM
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33. Disagree on it being brilliant political strategy.
We've been having supers trickling into Obama with such steady regularity that it's stopped being news. It won't be covered except in some articles that only political junkies pay much attention to and maybe a sentence or two in passing on the air.

If they have 20 committed they're hanging onto what they should do is select a group equal to the number of delegates Clinton gained in PA, which is coming out around 10, and have them all announce on the same day... immediately. That makes every network, practically guaranteed... and the message is "well, so much for Clinton momentum, Obama just wiped out her entire delegate gain there in one fell swoop".

Then a week later, a few days before Indiana and North Carolina, do it again. Then you have another day of the message being "Obama effectively just won a PA in superdelegates today" on every news broadcast leading into those primaries.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:45 AM
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35. However everyday the talking heads will have to say
"well he got to more supers today so they must be listening to him and not her" Its the repetitive nature of the message that has the power.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:28 PM
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39. Yes, but...
...they'll mention it once, maybe twice, in passing, maybe a sentence or two, no big deal this is routine stuff. Then they'll be on to the next point.

How many people will really hear or register it as anything all that important? You drop 9 or 10 superdelegate endorsements at once and they spend 15 or 20 minutes talking about how Obama just wiped out Hillary's Pennsylvania gains on every political panel in the country. Do it twice over the next two weeks and you've not just established the supers are listening to you and not your opponent, but established a strong impression of major strides forward that completely trivialize Clinton's PA win since Obama will have "won PA" twice as far as net delegate totals are concerned.

I just don't think anyone but us junkies are paying close attention to every single individual superdelegate endorsement announcement anymore. They've seen hundreds of those now, they're shrugging them off as standard fare.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:01 PM
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49. I don't think the point of this is to generate positive press for Obama
There are other concerns at work here that make this a good idea.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:48 AM
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36. Super delegates don't count ...it's the electoral vote that counts...
Hillarat moves the goal posts so much that it makes the field look like someone spun donuts on it. :evilgrin:
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:53 AM
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37. One more reason this is a smart move
If Hillary comes up with another smear that threatens to dominate the news coverage, he can just have all of these guys come out at once. It'll get the smear out of the media AND show party unity.

BRILLIANT!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:21 PM
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38. David Wu would be today's endorser!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:28 PM
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40. K&R
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:30 PM
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41. DO IT NOW...
dammit!!
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:31 PM
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42. The guy is total political genius. So prpud.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 01:43 PM by barack the house
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:44 PM
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44. Sounds good to me
Cheers!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:38 PM
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45. K&R. (nt)
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:49 PM
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46. I hope this source is rock solid - cause that means Obama will be...
The nominee in short order after the votes are cast May 6th.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:51 PM
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47. If this is the case... Clinton's super lead will be in single digits by May 6th
Which will SERIOUSLY weaken her position!

So let us hope this is true!!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:52 PM
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48. pretty soon Hill won't be leading by any criteria.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:05 PM
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50. GObama!!!!
This is GENIUS! :bounce:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:35 PM
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51. I really hope this is true!
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:03 PM
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52. Go OBama!!!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:23 PM
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53. K&R
:bounce:
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