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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:40 AM
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Hillary's Military Industrial Complex Pork & Her Under-educated, Low-Info Base
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:59 AM by cryingshame
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

President Eisenhower in 1961
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What Hillary's Earmarks Say About Her- she's whoring (in the POLITICAL SENSE) for the MIC & short-changing troops in the process.

Earmarking is only one small slice of the political cash game, but it has the advantage of being a slice we can actually see and quantify. And what we see of Hillary's record here suggests a couple of things. One: She has no qualms whatsoever about trading your tax money for personal political capital. And two: She likes to trade much of that money for favors in the defense sector, even if it hurts the people doing the defending.

As is often the case with defense earmarks, some of Hillary's pork spending is taken out of the Army's Operation and Maintenance budget, which is supposed to be used for troop-support initiatives like body armor. In simple terms, Hillary's rampant marauding of the defense budget takes money away from troops in the field. Soldiers wind up short on equipment, and Clinton winds up with hefty campaign contributions and free flights on private jets. Carrying charges, my boy, carrying charges!


If earmarks are just a little slice of the pie in the Washington cash game, imagine what would happen if Hillary got to serve up the whole meal. It's been so long since the Clintons were in office that we scarcely remember all those funny-sounding names of scandal-plagued campaign contributors — names like Roger Tamraz, "Charlie" Trie, Wang Jun and John Huang. When it comes to the Clintons and money, there was always somebody with a story buried beneath the line item, a hard-to-find dollar figure stuck to every Calvin Butts or Robert Congel. Are we really ready to go back to those days full time?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20306341/the_queen_of_pork
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:54 AM
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1. Low info base?
Jesus Christ, look who's talking!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:56 AM
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2. Come on--this is a very wise strategy.
Dogging on people for not having college degrees in a country where about 80% of the people do not have degrees is great strategy--if you are trying to throw the election.

Otherwise it *is* a bit peculiar.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:04 AM
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4. The Elitism On This Board Is Astounding
It confirms every negative stereotype that liberals for years have to confront; that they think they are better than you...

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:10 AM
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7. amazing, isnt it. I am shocked each and every day.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:19 AM
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14. It's That Condescending Attitude
It's that condescending attitude that the Republicans successfully exploit and Bush* successfully rode to the White House...

Who are really the smart ones?

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:11 AM
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9. Yes, and it's been an issue here for a long time.
The present campaign has made it a lot worse, but there has always been a contingent here at DU that thinks of politics as a chance to preen and pose and declare their moral and intellectual superiority to the unwashed masses.

This is why the GOP has gotten so much mileage out of the elitism charge for all these many years--because there is enough to it to make it plausible.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:25 AM
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33. It comes from both sides though
I see a lot of condescention from Clinton supporters toward young voters and "latte liberals". But I agree that the title of this OP is appalling, and call on all Obama supporters to stop insulting Clinton's voters, and vice versa.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:57 AM
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3. I agree...hilarious! From someone who likes having his/her opinion
shouted back at them and NEVER considering a different view or even...I dare say...FACTS...it's outrageous to claim high info!!!!
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:07 AM
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5. Sorry, you're wrong
I spent three years in the third grade. How many did you spend?
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:09 AM
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6. Speaking of "under-educated"
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:10 AM
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8. She Done Smarter Than You
Respectfilly,

Jethro
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:13 AM
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11. Maybe you is right
:rofl:
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:11 AM
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10. skuze me, but......
....aint that speld edgeekated?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:21 AM
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15. I Done Graduated From The Sixth Grade
My fondest memories were siting next to my dad in skool....
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:15 AM
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12. nice stratergy....insult 80% of the American voters.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:18 AM
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13. Obama should release a list of all her earmarks. Looks like that challenge
scared her half to death. Looks like the HRC supporters pounced on this one. Rec'd
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:22 AM
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17. What's A Gosh Darn Earmark?
I's got a little hole where I had my ear pearced... Does Hilery have more than too earmarks?

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:37 AM
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25. If you wood worsh yer ears
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:38 AM by QC
they woodunt have them marks.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:46 AM
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26. We Cuntry Folks Bathe Once A Weak
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:56 AM
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28. Once a week are plinty.
That's all Hilery said we needs too bayth.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:21 AM
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29. We Done Bathe In The River Becuse We Don't Have Indore Pluming
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:22 AM
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30. But Hilery promised maw a new warshtub to bayth in.
I love Hilery!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:27 AM
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34. Alls My Cousins Will Vote For Her If She Can Git Us Indore Pluming
It's hard to go to the bathrume in the Winter when its thity feat away from your cabin... Maybe she can provide us with one of those FEMA trailers and cabul tv...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:36 AM
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36. I like bean a low information votur. Doant you? n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:46 AM
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37. I'm Going To Canvas Fur Her In West Virginny
Heres' one of my cusins:

http://www.mytrailerpark.com/

He done made himself a website... I use the computere at the vocationel center to surf the web. I'm studieing to be a web designa...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:22 AM
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40. I just figgered out how to look at durty pitchers on that computer
that Hilery got us!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:37 AM
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43. My Cuzin Done Shown Me How To Find That Stuff
I dont like to tuch his keybored though.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:14 PM
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48. them pitchers make me feel all funny inside
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:19 PM by QC
and then i always do a bad thing and maw gets out the good book and makes me read that story ubout onan, who spilled his seeds up on the ground and then i cry and beg forgiveness.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:45 PM
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49. Yeah
Maw said it made Cousen Billy go blind.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:15 PM
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50. papaw wint crazy from it. that wuz befor the hawgs et him. n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:47 AM
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27. If you read the article this thread is about, you'll understand
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:47 AM by Catherina
I'd like to see Hillary's long disgusting list of earmarks.

Political Pork, it's what's for dinner.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:19 AM
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39. legitimate issues are a good thing
alienating and denigrating 80% of America is just crap.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:34 AM
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42. Yup... the thread was doomed before there was a chance to discuss.
*sigh*
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:39 AM
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45. I Done Wunder Where The Originel Poster Went
She must werk at one of them fancy offeces I see when we go to the citi...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:22 AM
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16. It's "for the children" that she serves the MIC. Landmines anyone? K&R
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:23 AM
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18. So anyone who asks why she didn't fight the IWR... well theres's your answer.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:23 AM by redqueen
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:27 AM
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19. Couldn't The OP Make Her Point Without Saying Clinton Supporters Are Stoopid?
She done hirt my fealings...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:31 AM
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21. Yes... it could have done without the inflammatory rhetoric. (nt)
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:32 AM
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22. agreed. also, isn't there one of these threads every day?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:34 AM
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24. I haven't seen those comments about her earmarks before.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:34 AM by redqueen
If the RS article was posted before, I didn't see it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:32 AM
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23. Thank You
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:25 AM
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32. No, because that WAS the point
One I'm seeing more and more. You were right upthread, the people saying these things are like stereotypes come to life.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:29 AM
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35. I 's Don't Like It When People Tell Me I'm Stoopid
That's why we cuntry folks vote Republicun. They dont make fun of us.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:22 AM
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41. Lol, that reminds me of a Family Guy
where Quagmire was going on a cross-country sex tour in his RV. He had a big banner on the side out of view of the camera and I think it was Stewie who said, "Isn't there an 'o' in country?"

:D
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:28 AM
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20. Say that to Paul Krugman's face! nt
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:24 AM
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31. Can we please stop insulting Hillary's voters?
You make valid points about the military industrial complex, but what is the need to insult her voters? I can't stand when they call us "latte liberals" or "spoiled trust fund babies". Is it necessary to insult her supporters?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:15 AM
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38. Thats Why My Frends Vote Republicun Because Democrates Tell Us Wear Dum
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:39 AM
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44. Which proves the point, doesn't it?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:42 AM
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47. I Done Gues Yore Right But Tey Win ALot Of Electuns
My friends tell me that Bush fella dusnt make them feel so dum...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:41 AM
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46. Might I suggest a google of Hillary Clinton, Fort Drum
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