Largest Indiana Newspaper Calls For Democratic Debate

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Largest Indiana Newspaper Calls For Democratic Debate
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 09:00:51 AM EST
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Indiana's largest newspaper, the Indianapolis Star, has called for a Democratic debate:

he candidates need to engage Indiana voters and one another in a forum that stretches beyond glossy TV commercials, showy campaign stops and rote speeches delivered in city after city. In short, the candidates need to meet for a debate in Indiana in the next few days.

Why another debate toward the end of an exhausting campaign? For starters, the last debate, in Pennsylvania, was heavily criticized for delving into side issues rather than centering on topics such as the economy, health care and foreign policy. Well, then, let's have a debate here that digs into the many serious issues facing the nation and this state. . . .

I, for one, would love to see further discussion of Hillary Clinton's "umbrella of deterrence" proposal.

By Big Tent Democrat

http://www.talkleft.com/

Why is Obama scared of Debates? Why won't he be honest , FOR ONCE!

I repeat!



According to the press release, the reason for the cancellation is kind of, but not really, this:

"time constraints and logistical issues associated with such a large, national event."

The press release then goes on to say,

"While there was great interest in the debate, there were also growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity,"


Concurrently, Obama supporters at a Raleigh NC event did what they do best. They chanted.

Did they chant Yes We Can!? Nope.

Did they chant Oooooooo Baaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Maaaaaaa!!??? Nope.

They chanted "No More Debates!!!"



The WILL of the people you speak of ...WANT more debates! Maybe not your delusional disciples..but the rest of us do. Barack Obama is a flawed candidate and will be an even more flawed nominee - and it will be painfully obvious in November should he (God Forbid!) become the Dem.

Candidate.






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDU9xKNo-zo

[BeyondGeography]

1. Let the paper sponsor an issues forum then

No more MSM "debates."

[DUyellow]

3. agree, or a union group

[indimuse]

7. Why didn't you call for this..

When they (especially Russert) ALL piled on Hillary! It was a disgrace, but NOT one word from you!

[goclark]

22. I did email Russet about HC

and I support Obama.

I don't believe the MSM should control the debate like he does.

[Kittycat]

2. Why didn't Clinton agree to his date? The ball was in her court and she kicked it out.

Screw her.

[indimuse]

4. link..proof?

!

[indimuse]

13. link! Proof!

..

[papau]

5. How will the Indianapolis Star treat the newly revealed "Obama the coward"?

[indimuse]

9. Good questiion.

O.T.C!

[frazzled]

18. It is a right-wing rag

My parents live there and have gotten the paper for over 50 years, and for almost that long they threaten to cancel it every single morning. When I visit I read the Indy Star and marvel at its lack of content and right-wing slant.

[Zachstar]

6. There have been MORE than enough debates.

You will not gain ground trying to make it an issue. The last one proved why there needs to be no more debates.

[PBS Poll-435]

10. I think that it proved the need for MORE debates, actually.

10 million people watched.

[JackORoses]

8. Sorry, Hillary, No free airtime for you!

Why don't you spend some of that cash you just raked in?
What's that? It's already been spent paying off Mark Penn?
For shame.

[PBS Poll-435]

11. The irony of it all. Progressives used to be against big money in politics.

Now...

Not so much.

If you can't buy access, you don't deserve to be seen or have your message heard.

[karynnj]

14. You miss the point - most of the people contributing do not even

think that their contribution is for access. The average contribution is $96. There is a HUGE difference between raising money from a million and a half people and getting millions from a top fund raiser.

[PBS Poll-435]

15. That doesn't change the point.

Having to pay to play used to be something Progressives were against.

Now?...

NO Free Airtime for you!

[karynnj]

26. It's NOT pay to play

I'm from NJ, I know what pay to play is! That is what is really wonderful about the internet fund raising efforts that Dean and Kerry used successfully in 2004 and that Obama has relied on this year. If you thing that you will get special attention from teh President of the US because you used your credit card to give $100 over the internet, you are crazy.

Did you have a problem with Edwards raising money?

As to free airtime - what are you speaking of - net neutrality. If so, you should watch this hearing - and see who is on our side and who isn't. http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=4c66f979-3001-490a-a985-5be63951adb7

[PBS Poll-435]

27. The problem that I have is not with the money.

It is the idea that since the Obama campaign has raised lots of money, they don't need to participate in debates. They can just run TV ads.

Because they have more money, they are somehow above the idea of debates now.

[JackORoses]

19. if you run your campaign into the red consistantly,

then you have no business being in the White House.

We've had enough of that with Bush.

[PBS Poll-435]

21. So ... Just throw old values out the window because of this one candidate.

Not really that surprising actually.

Compromising values for the promise of change. Got it, thanks. I will make a note of it.

[JackORoses]

24. Hillary doesn't have 'old values'.

She has Clinton Values.

Win at all costs.
Ends Justify the Means.
Personal Ambition over Party.
Disregard for the Will of the People.

You have compromised your own values by supporting someone who doesn't believe in truth, only the appearance of it.

She is a hollow facade. You will find this out the hard way.

[indimuse]

12. your guy...

is peeing in his pants.. scared. :)

[shifting_sands]

16. Hard

Debates I think are difficult for Obama because he isn't good at making it up as he goes along. Hillary is very good at that. The most successful politicians who are very good at fabrication do the best in debates. He simply isn't good at that. Remember "I did not have sex with that woman"? Bill was good at that and we all believed him, hard not to he was so easy to like. Hillary is good at it too, anyone ever here her multiple stories about Bosnia? I believed her, it was a good story, but it was a story, she does that on debates as well. She's also excellent at covering or ignoring her own hypocrisy while pointing fingers, or taking an opponents words out of context and spinning them on the spot, Obama can't seem to do that. These debates are a farce and I don't see how one more will improve them.

[mmonk]

17. Every state wants a debate.

At this point, one would serve no legitimate purpose. The last one was not a debate. It was a dishonest mud slinging event for redneck neanderthals.

[uponit7771]

20. Hillary wants to talk about stupid shit, why would he agree to that?

[cliffordu]

23. Big ad dollars in debates. Churn the shit and nothing gets done.

Perfect. Let's do 20 more!!!!!

:puke:

[SeaLyons]

25. FLAWED!!

K & R
:kick:

[GoldieAZ49]

28. If Obama's poor performance in his last debate with over 10 million viewers is

the last impression he wants to leave with the voters, let him.

How about rerunning the ABC debate in Indiana since he is not available?

ABC could rerun it, and sell it to cspan and CNN.