I don't have a dog in this primary fight. My dog died...

[SparkyMac]

... when Dennis Kucinich dropped out. However, I'm not crying about that. What I want above all is to see a Democratic sweep and a 40+ state landslide in November -- which would restore the government of the United States to the People. Six months ago that was very promising dream. Today it is not.

So let's all agree to lay aside our factionalism -- and not worry about the petty personal ambitions of two people -- and instead look to the victory we can all share with a new candidate.

The whole purpose of the primaries is to decide who can and who CANNOT be elected in November. We have found two who cannot. Let's proceed to the next level of the search.

Somewhere out there, among the millions of Democratic voters -- is a person who can carry us to a sweeping victory.

Lets demand that the so-called "Super Delegates" get off their dead asses and find that person. That is their only purpose for being -- not to sit and whine and say -- "Me, too !".

[scheming daemons]

1. So... in other words.... throw out the votes of millions of Americans, so a plutocracy can decide?

Wow.

[RichardRay]

4. No, that's not what he's saying....

he's saying that the current activity is not contributing to winning in November.

I am an enthusiastic supporter of Senator Obama, who is in the lead in every count that matters and is very likely to be the nominee if this goes to a brokered convention. If this food fight goes on for another few weeks I'm going to start advocating for Senator Obama to consider dropping out in favor of Senator Clinton just because I believe we are creating a real problem for beating McCain in the GE, and that's my overriding concern.

I don't think Senator Clinton is the best choice for that. At this point I think (and the nationwide polling agrees with me) that Senator Obama has a better chance of beating McCain in the general election. However, if the campaign continues on its current trajectory I believe that they will both be damaged to an extent that will make it hard for either of them to win.

Therefore, I am willing to start at least consider that the leader in all the contests that have already occurred, who is likely to be the leader at that time, and who seems the most likely to win in November, I am willing to start thinking about supporting him to drop out.

Is that the 'victory' that you're after?

This is not the general election with Constitutional issues of voter franchisement at stake. This is the internal process of a political party. The idea is to pick a winnning candidate; right now we're destroying two of them.

[SparkyMac]

8. Thanks. You summed it up better than I did.

Like you say -- this is not an election. It's a process that asks the Democratic voters what is their preference. The only election that has meaning is when they call the roll of delegates and one person gets 20025 votes.

One illogical remark I keep hearing that drives me buggy is -- "We can't ignore the votes of millions of people". Whoever wins will be ignoring the millions of votes he/she did not get.

[Shae]

9. what a precendent that would set.

The Democratic nominee will from now on be decided by the candidate that is more successful at trashing the other candidates.
Senator Clinton wins hands down!

Elections were so messy and expensive anyway.

[Buzz Clik]

2. Kucinich is dead to me.

[Barack_America]

3. I thought the point of elections was to HONOR them...

According to the stated rules.

Am I wrong?

If not, what was that dust-up over Gore all about?

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. That person was Edwards.

Somewhere out there, among the millions of Democratic voters -- is a person who can carry us to a sweeping victor.


x(

[cali]

7. yeah, except for the fact that he couldn't win Iowa

despite its being a retail politics state where he actually got coverage and had 100% name recognition and enough bucks and 527 help to compete.

[cali]

6. ugh. people who are willing to throw out millions of votes because

of their petulance are NOT progressive. Disturbing to see this kind of thinking. And fuck your idea that we demand that the SDs do something so undemocratic. You haven't a clue as to whether Obama or Clinton are unelectable. You have no evidence to back you up on that.

Cut the crap and deal with reality instead of silly fantasy. Start where you are.