There is Only One Solution!

[last1standing]

Now that Clinton has pulled off a victory in PA that was completely expected and less than estimated, there are quite a few "Edwards Coming Back" and "Gore is the Solution" threads popping up and that has me thinking. Are some people supporting Hillary in the hopes that a contested convention will cause one of these two to be drafted?

If that's the case, I want to make something extremely clear to those who are pushing this idea. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

I love Al Gore and John Edwards. I supported Edwards for president until he suspended his campaign. But facts are facts and numbers are numbers, Barack Obama is going to be the Democratic nominee in 2008. The only thing Hillary Clinton is doing at this point is forcing us all to waste time and money better served by hitting John McCain.

So folks, there is only ONE solution - get behind our presumptive nominee, Barack Obama, and let's start fighting for a Democratic presidency, senate and house!

Anything else at this stage is only working for the repubs.

[PBS Poll-435]

1. LOL...

We don't have a presumptive nominee. To think that we do would be postulating.

[JimGinPA]

2. Whereas Denying It Is Just Denial

[PBS Poll-435]

3. Saying that we have a presumptive nominee is

Dishonest at best.

[last1standing]

4. And realistic at worst.

There is no realistic way Clinton can catch up with Obama and there's no chance the SDs are going to piss off the majority of Dems by giving her the edge. You can live in your dream world of some seismic shift to Hillary but it just isn't going to happen.

It's time to fight the repubs.

[PBS Poll-435]

5. It is not your decision to make.

[LibraLiz1973]

7. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Love the reference to Idiocracy

[PBS Poll-435]

9. Me too. It is very apropos. nt

[last1standing]

10. It's not yours, either.

I don't know where you got the idea that I thought it was my decision but it speaks volumes as to why you support who you do. :eyes:

[hill_win_2008]

6. He can't win with her

Hillary can't win unless Obama implodes. Guess what: Obama can't win with Hillary in the race.

I don't understand the constant call for EITHER of them to drop out now.

[last1standing]

8. I agree with you, Obama can't win with Hillary in the race. Therefore we all lose.

It's time for her to stop forcing us to waste time and money on the primaries.

[hill_win_2008]

11. Missed my point...

Why doesn't Obama be the bigger person and drop out? With him out of the way, Hillary can focus on McCain.

(don't just come back and say I'm an idiot, try and pick up what I'm putting down here)

[last1standing]

12. I didn't miss it, I merely took it to the next logical level.

The candidate who has the best chance of winning (and by best I mean a lock) shouldn't drop out. We need our strongest contender to fight the repubs and Hillary isn't it. We've proved that.

I know you're suggesting that neither should drop out and let the primaries run their course. I'm saying that they have run their course and it's time to get to the real battle.

[Liberal Gramma]

13. Because he's ahead

Why should he drop out? He has a path to the nomination that doesn't depend on Clinton imploding; she does not. Her path to the nomination depends on either Obama imploding or the SD's awarding the nomination to the second-place candidate, a move guaranteed to lose the GE.

[ClayZ]

18. Hillary is looking mighty frantic to me.

So is Bill. I think the chances of either or both of them imploding are greater than, Obama imploding.

He seems calm, cool and collected, as usual!

Obama 44th POTUS!

K and R

[Bake]

17. You really don't know what the superdelegates are going to do.

You know what you WANT them to do. But you don't know what they WILL do, unless you have a time machine.

There is no presumptive nominee until somebody gets to 2025, which nobody does without the superdelegates. So quit lying about it.

Bake

[last1standing]

21. So you propose bleeding the party for anothe few months?

Just on the off chance that your candidate can find some subtly racist meme that actually works? You're good with anything so long as your preference wins the nomination, even if it kills our chances in November?

And we do know what the SDs are going to do, they're going to side with Obama. It's only their fear of the Clinton machine that stops them at this point.

[Bake]

23. Funny; many of the remaining supers have said they wanted to wait

and see how THEIR STATES VOTE. Imagine that!

Oh, and the "subtly racist meme" shit? Anybody who opposes the great Barack must be racist? It's shit like that, that is tearing this party apart. You make me want to vomit.

Bake

[last1standing]

24. Awwwww! Diddims get his widdle feeling hurt?

Go vomit then. Enjoy the aftertaste.

[barack the house]

14. If that don't work donate to the DNC asking them to push more McCain ads for the GE.

[last1standing]

15. Good advice.

I've donated nearly exclusively to the DNC this year. I trust Dean with my money more than anyone else.

[rug]

16. There is a huge difference between likely nominee and presumptive nominee.

Unless you're referring to McCain.

[last1standing]

19. Obama is more than likely, he's nearly guaranteed.

There is only one way that Clinton wins the nomination and that is through character assassination, which she has been attempting for two months. Any more time and money spent catering to her vicious predilection for destruction is harmful to the party and the country.

I really do understand the pain of having your candidate not win when you KNOW he/she is the best candidate, but it's effectively over. Obama has won and all Clinton is doing is bleeding the rest of us dry.

[rug]

22. So, he's the nearly guaranteed nominee?

I'll just wait until he gets 2025.

[last1standing]

25. Your choice, of course, but it only hurts our chances in November when you deny the obvious.

n/t

[newmajority]

20. K&R - Stop the drama, vote Obama

Fuck the soap opera. Hillary, go home and let's "obliterate" Grandpa McLoony already.

[ClayZ]

26. That is what the Super Delegates need to do, now!

K and R

[GeorgeGist]

27. Conceit is a problem ...

not a solution. Are you prepared to be duped again?

[last1standing]

28. I haven't been duped yet. Have you?

n/t