jenmito
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:01 PM
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Hillary winning in PA by 9.2% is considered "huge" when she had to win every remaining state by 25%? |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:23 PM by jenmito
Doesn't she realize it's over? PA was her last best chance and the best she could do was a 9.2% win? Obama won several states with REALLY huge wins-winning with over 60%! It's over, folks! Hillary now wants us to believe she's leading in the POPULAR vote-counting MI and FL (while not giving Obama ANY votes in MI) and NOT counting any caucus states (even though her claim is she's ahead in the popular vote if you count every state that voted?) That's BEYOND illogical! Give me a break!
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:02 PM
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:21 PM
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2. Thanks. I changed subjects. n/t |
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:22 PM
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3. yet when Obama won states like Kansas, Minnesota, Colorado, Wisconsin, ect |
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by over 20 points they didn't count.
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:25 PM
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4. Of course they didn't count. NOTHING counts except what SHE wants to count... |
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Chuck Todd just said Hillary has to win every remaining state, including NC, to try to have an argument she should be the nominee.
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:26 PM
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5. The MSM has obliged SS Clinton by framing her as still viable. |
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She is not. His delegate lead - THE metric - is insurmountable. Game over.
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:02 PM
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10. I know-just now, Andrea Mitchell asked Tim Roemer what his response is to Hillary's "math," and he |
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replied, "Well, ducking sniper fire in Bosnia one week and 'new math' the next, I don't get this one," and she replied, "Oh you're playing ROUGH, Congressman," and he went on to tell the FACTS. I can't believe the media's even ENTERTAINING the IDEA of Hillary's fuzzy math!
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 PM
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6. She needed blowouts in every remaining state |
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needed to do better than average in PA, as it was a stronghold. Obviously she fell far short, but fortunately for her the media were complicit in lowering the bar.
The remaining delegate math is now so ridiculous that she is trying to move the game to another playing field with different rules.
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:10 PM
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13. Yup. And now the media is saying, "Who's ahead in the popular vote?" |
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Then they debate it, concluding, of course, that OBAMA'S ahead and that her math is "fuzzy," but the question is still being put out there, and maybe it will make some people think she MAY be ahead. :eyes:
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:34 PM
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It may not be enough of a win, but it did net her several million dollars in the last day and a half. I don't see how we can argue against the facts here. She won & lived to fight another day.
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:38 PM
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8. We don't really know how much money she raised in those hours. |
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To go from 2.5 million to 10 million in the space of a few hours is very unlikely.
If people wanted to give her money, why didn't they give it to her when she was 26 points ahead in PA instead of merely 9 points?
These figures smack of the same math as her vote totals - Hillary Math.
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:07 PM
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12. Exactly. I heard it reported that nobody really knows where that money came from. I don't believe |
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:11 PM
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14. And whatever they collected |
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how much wouldn't even be available for the primary?
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:16 PM
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:05 PM
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11. Not according to the REAL math! And they CLAIM they netted several million dollars, but they |
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haven't shown any proof of that yet. First they said they raised $10 million in 24 hours then they said they're "on target" to raise $10 million in 24 hours. I don't believe anything they say anymore.
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Thu Apr-24-08 12:51 PM
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9. She is in this to pay her bills because now their saying she can now |
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continue this process. Obama has won. There is no reason why SDs don't just flood his way so that we can get on with the other side show, McCain.
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:22 PM
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:22 PM
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:26 PM
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19. You are under the delusion that teh rules don't apply to your guy too... |
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You see NEITHER candidate can get to that magic 2025 number. NONE of them. You think this means that whoever has the LEAD in pledged delegates should be the nominee. Others think differently. Some believe that the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE should be the person who has more DEMOCRATS voting for them.
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:32 PM
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20. So even in trying to explain how the rules work, you try to change them? |
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Like canidate like supporter. :rofl:
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:33 PM
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21. So if Obama wins by 9.2% + in N.C., we can call that "HUGE" |
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:36 PM
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22. It's funny; the states he won by huge margins, was expected to win - no big deal. |
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Hillary was expected to win PA all along and her margin was huge up until a few weeks ago. Now all of a sudden, 9.2 is HUGE. They aren't discussing her nominal delegate pick-up are they? ;-)
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Thu Apr-24-08 01:36 PM
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23. Yup! But, I have a strange feeling it will be explained away, minimized, justified, |
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