Wow, I didn't know all this about the terrorist that Bill Clinton pardoned.

[LoZoccolo]

Evans began working in the May 19th Communist Movement splinter from the Weather Underground to develop clandestine armed urban violence as part of a multi-level overall revolutionary strategy. Evans was arrested on May 11, 1985 and charged with acquisition of weapons, ID, safe houses, finances, political and military training and actions to bring terrorist activity in the U.S. Targets of these activities included the U.S. Capitol Building, National War College, Navy Yard Computer Center and Navy Yard Officers Club, Israeli Aircraft Industries, the FBI office and New York Patrolmen's Benevolent Association.

She received a 40 year sentence, which was commuted by President Bill Clinton January 20, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Sue_Evans

It looks like she wanted to be even more radical than the Weather Underground! :wow: That's fucken scarey. :scared: No thanks, Hillary.

[YOY]

1. Dude...don't go there

That's below the belt...leave that for the RWers.

[LoZoccolo]

3. I know that Senator Clinton is a good woman and I respect her greatly...

...but I think this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising.

[DJ13]

5. this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising

Ah, but thats not fair!

Only Hillary is supposed to be allowed to test out RW talking points, and only on Obama.

Its not allowed to use her campaign bullcrap against her!

[YOY]

6. Yeah but the problem with those tactics is that they force you to be a bastard.

I cannot go that route. Sorry.

It's not a question of strength but of moral fiber.

[Adelante]

11. Yes, it's a goddamned shame Hillary went this way

In February.

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties

By JUSTIN ROOD
Feb. 22, 2008


The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001. (Obama's ties to the radical group first surfaced last week in a Bloomberg News article.)

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from Politico.com reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another former member of the radical group.

Opting to leave any attacks on the issue to the GOP may be wise, as attacks from Clinton could backfire. In his final day in office, President Clinton pardoned another one-time member of the Weather Underground, Susan L. Rosenberg, after she had served 16 years in prison on federal charges.

-snip

And in 1999, President Clinton also pardoned 16 violent Puerto Rican nationalists responsible for more than 100 bombings of U.S. political and military installations, after they promised to renounce violence. The attacks reportedly killed six people and wounded dozens more. In justifying the pardons, President Clinton noted none of the men had been convicted of crimes that resulted in death or injuries.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4330128&page=1

[LoZoccolo]

15. Bastard? For what?

Bringing up the fact that this woman was sentenced and Bill Clinton got rid of the sentence?

[YOY]

21. The Weather Underground was a by product of its time

It needs to be looked at in such terms.

They were hardly the Al Queda or even the Michigan Militia... While I don't condone their actions I don't think I can say they were horrible monsters either.

[LoZoccolo]

22. How many people were in that group again?

At it's peak when it split from SDS, maybe 300? And that quickly dwindled down to like, what? 50? 30? If they were such a product of the time that they were not responsible for their own actions, wouldn't there have been more people that got swept up by the times?

[LoZoccolo]

23. Actually, what Hillary has done is more of a Republican tactic than I first thought.

You know that trick they pull when they accuse their opponents of something that they are guilty of to a greater degree? It looks like Hillary pulled that trick here.

[RazBerryBeret]

8. but it will toughen her up...

this is good practice for her--she needs to know what to expect in the GE, remember?

[MadBadger]

10. McCauliffe said anything in public was on the table

He said Ayers, Bitter, Wright, anything is in play.

[YOY]

12. There's things I can LOL or agree with or even rip on the Hillerites for.

This I cannot.

Sorry... :shrug:

[Asgaya Dihi]

13. Normally I'd agree with you

But not this time. The Weather Underground became a legitimate issue in this campaign when Hillary Clinton stood up in the last debate and said that she thought Barrack having simply lived near or sat on a board with a member of the same group was relevant. A member who was not convicted.

Given her attempt to smear him with a relationship to the group that's much looser than hers I think she has little room to complain about anything being below the belt. If she wasn't throwing out right wing tactics left and right she'd be hit with a lot less of them herself.

Obama shouldn't do it, but I see no reason why we can't talk about it. She's the one who said the issue was relevant. She just thought we were going to hit someone else with it at the time.

[tabasco]

2. Just imagine how nasty Obama could be if he got in the gutter with Hillary.

To hear her screech that she is "better vetted" makes me LMAO.

She has skeletons piled high in the closet; it's just that nobody has opened the door lately.

[LoZoccolo]

4. What if he made Hillary unelectable in the general election, so superdelegates have to vote for him?

This would be a mirror of the Tonya Harding strategy that Hillary is pursuing.

[LSparkle]

9. "Lately" is EXACTLY the right word

She thinks she's been vetted and perhaps for her WH years she was.

However, Bill's behavior since leaving office has been questionable
to say the least when it comes to his business "associates" and if
she's the nominee, we'll be hearing about him pushing for Dubai to
control our ports, we'll hear about his trip to Kazakhstan with the
Canadian "businessman" and plenty of other details. Maybe even
about how he's been spending his time while his wife has been at
work in D.C. ... We DO NOT KNOW everything about this couple by a
long shot.

[Occam Bandage]

16. It's a testament to Obama that he hasn't gone as dirty as she has.

[Adelante]

7. She didn't know, either (wink)

-snip

You can watch the video below. If it's true, it means that she got the worst briefings in the world when she was running for Senate in 2000 and the clemency issue was hot in Rockland County, and it means that Chuck Schumer didn't even bother to mention the issue to his fellow NY senator-elect/ First Lady after promising the widows of two dead cops to fight against one of the clemencies.

Here's the chronology:

On October 19, 2000, as Hillary was hunting for Senate votes throughout New York, Rockland County's biggest paper, the Journal News, ran a front page story reporting that imprisoned radical Susan Rosenberg -- linked to the 1981 Weather Underground Brinks robbery that left two Nyack cops dead -- was seeking clemency from Bill Clinton.

The next day, the widows and fellow state and local police attended a memorial service for the two dead cops at the site of the killings. Also in attendance: Sen. Chuck Schumer, who in that fall was frequently campaigning with Hillary. According to another front page story, on Oct. 21, he made a pledge to the widows to fight the clemency: "I intend to take our opposition as high as I can in government."

On December 16, 2000, after Hillary became New York's Senator-elect, the paper did another Page 1 story about an upcoming 60 Minutes episode on Rosenberg's clemency application. It included a quote from one of her new constituents, Diane O'Grady, wife of one of the dead cops: "This is a woman who has taken lives."
On December 17, 2000, the "60 Minutes" piece on Rosenberg's case and clemency request ran.

So, Clinton -- in her effort to avoid being connected in any way to the case -- now says she knew nothing about it. Nobody briefed her, either while she was running or after she was elected, on an emotional hot-button issue that intersected her husband with her constituents. Her husband, who invited her to sit in on a White House meeting with another group of Rockland County residents seeking pardons for four Hasidic members of their community, never so much as mentioned Rosenberg.

-continues

Entire article
http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2008/04/hill_on_brinks_radical_i_didnt.html



Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsrf4IrKHsE

[elmerdem]

14. I'd say that article makes

it fair game. & I'll add that Shumer should go. He now doesn't think we're ready for national health care? WTF

[Adelante]

18. Fair Game - Hillary's campaign chairman says so, too

MCAULIFFE: I agree with Speaker Gingrich. Anything that's been out in the public is fair game.

HANNITY: All right.

MCAULIFFE: Are you kidding me? Wait until the general election, Sean.

HANNITY: Wait until -- yes, well, the Bill Ayers issue which we were on -- just like the Wright issue.

MCAULIFFE: Yes.

HANNITY: .we were on way ahead of anybody. You think that's a legitimate issue?

MCAULIFFE: I think everything is a legitimate issue. Hillary Clinton nothing has been taken off the table for her.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/terry_mcauliffe_on_hannity_col.html

[mcctatas]

17. Here's a towel...

crawl out of the winger gutter and clean yourself off, you're just feeding the outrage beast...

[LoZoccolo]

19. Except they forgot that our beast is bigger than their beast. n/t

[JVS]

20. Wow. Clintons soft on terrorists, yet want to obliterate civilians!

Monstrous!