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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:03 PM
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At this point, the candidates aren't running for delegates...
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 02:13 PM by Writer
they're running for the most effective argument they can make before the superdelegates. Unfortunately, the Democratic electoral system isn't set up so that the candidate with the most delegates automatically wins. The magic number is 2,025, and because neither candidate can reach that number, the goal for both Clinton and Obama is to put together the most effective case to make before the superdelegates after everyone votes in June.

And this is why Florida and Michigan will be discussed, as well as the numbers, and why these candidate's electability will become an issue, as well. At this point, counting delegates and popular votes is necessary, but will only be a couple of factors weighed into the overall decision the party makes. Another issue to consider is that sometimes the will of the people doesn't match the long-term needs of the party; however, there may be a long-term penalty to pay for not honoring the will of the people.

Another caveat: Should Democratic voices count more in open primaries and caucuses? I'd be curious if that is something the party discusses after this is over.

Unfortunately, we live in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. If you look back into history, the founding fathers invented the concept of delegates and electors (from the electoral college) not only to protect the rights of smaller states, but also in order to protect the democratic process from mob rule following the horrific ochlacratic results of the French Revolution. In no American democracy does might ever make right, nor should our emotions sway over our reason. And this is why we must permit our electoral process to continue in full.

~Writer~
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:09 PM
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1. Kick above the dupe. n/t
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:21 PM
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2. This post isn't appearing under "My DU."
Can anyone even see this?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:22 PM
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3. I can see it
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:23 PM
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4. Okay, thanks.
I'll duck away for a while...
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:09 PM
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5. Kick (sorry!)
:hide:
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:29 PM
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6. I agree - nt
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:32 PM
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7. If you're worried about Hillary being guillotined if she steals the nom,
well, I don't really have anything to say.

:rofl:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:42 PM
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8. Who are you - Lafayette?
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 05:44 PM by Writer
Next thing you know, Obama supporters will gather at tennis courts across America.

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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:45 PM
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9. I'm Maximilien Robespierre and I approve this message.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:45 PM
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10. This seems like a good time for RUSH
No, not the drug addled gasbag......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7yxA9vt2-c
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:55 PM
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11. ...
:headbang:
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