Hillary push polling audio link...this says it all

[thunder rising]

http://www.twango.com/media/thepolitico.public/thepolitico.10040

[GetTheRightVote]

1. everyone should listen to this for sure, but they do not want the reality shot

Oh boy, hillary is so out of here, Obama is expected to win without a doubt.
I have been very sure for some time after hearing him speak, he speaks right
to your heart and dreams.

[JackORoses]

2. let's get this to KO!

[UALRBSofL]

6. You can't say it's Hillary doing the push polling

Unless it's connected back to her campaign. Do you remember when MSNBC accused Huckabee's Campaign of push polling but Fox News somehow traced the callers back to some where like Iowa and it was an independent group? They had egg on there face saying it was Huckabee. But Huckabee asked the independent group to quit doing it but they said they would keep it up anyway.

[JackORoses]

10. sure we can. the questions are obviously slanted to her.

Don't worry, this trail will lead us back to the Clintons, and they will catch hell for it.

[Orangepeel]

23. To be fair, lots of sleazy people want Clinton to be the Democratic nominee

only some of them are on her payroll

[JackORoses]

30. the polling firm that made the call is owned by geoff garin, hilly's new 'penn'

[Orangepeel]

33. that settles it, then n/t

[hendo]

25. of course,

the actual campaigns dont run these, they farm them out to smaller companies that only do phone polls.

[LSparkle]

3. Whoa ... Good push back from the person being polled

"That's completely untrue." Good for him! Hopefully this will soon
be making the 'net rounds...

[olkaz]

4. good lord, that's about the most blantant BS

Good work Hillary.

[yourguide]

5. This is screwed up, just finished listening to it...

I hope Hilary gets caught.

[UALRBSofL]

8. I'll forward this to the appropriate authorities

So that this wont turn into a Gotcha Moment by the Obama Campaign.

[yourguide]

14. OOOOH, a little late for that - someone got it on tape...

and what authorities are you going to forward this to? the push poll police?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[thunder rising]

32. The remedy is making people aware that this will happen and how to handle it.

It will happen a lot so get a recorder in NC and IN. Ask them to state the organization.

[sniffa]

46. Forwarding your post to the Secret Service

Advocating HRC getting caught in push polling - that's threatening!

[Egnever]

7. wow!

at least the guy called him out for outright lying and told him her big win in PA was a Big loss.

What a vile way to do politics. I hope this woman is finished forever after this election. DLC politics need to be rejected once and for all.

[City Lights]

9. HRC = Do anything; say anything.

Glad I finally heard one of these for myself. :puke: That guy was much calmer than I would have been. This needs to make it to the teevee!

[Indenturedebtor]

11. Bleh disgusting

She makes me want to :puke:

[UALRBSofL]

12. I can't believe the Obama Camp would stoop so low

Doing a fake push poll and blaming it on the Clinton Campaign. Obama is lower then a snake. Rovian playbook all the way.

[cali]

16. not going to fly, hillbot

any such push polling would damage him more than help him. Not saying it's hilly's campaign directly but it's obviously someone supporting her. She should reject this shit.

[JackORoses]

34. the firm that made the call is ran by Geoff Garin, Hillary's new 'Penn'

[yourguide]

17. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, that's EXACTLY what they did...

just called people in NC trashing their own candidate in hopes someone would tape it and send it to a journalist.

FAIL!

[mckeown1128]

22. lol the reverse-push-poll... Hillbots are funny lol NT

[Adelante]

18. !

:rofl:

[cui bono]

29. call from the firm of Geoff Garin, the new head of Hillary Clinton's campaign team

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/24/133728/667/829/502604

[SunsetDreams]

13. Hillary is desperate,

pathetic, she will not win, the math is not there

[democracy1st]

15. good job

[cbayer]

19. Where's the beginning of the tape where the person identifies who he represents?

I call BS on this.

[SunsetDreams]

21. you probably would...

but I don't, naturally someone doesn't record all their conversations.

Do you push record before you pick up the phone?

The call was identified and then the person pushed record.

[cbayer]

27. He says in the Huffpo blog

that he asked the guy where he was calling from and received an answer, but he didn't record that part?

I am not sure what you mean by "you probably would". If you mean that I have a high degree of skepticism when presented with information that is inflammatory and not backed up by credible information, well then, yes I would. If you mean that I am just a knee-jerk responder to any information that might be negative about Clinton, well then, no I am not.

[JackORoses]

35. He didn't start recording until he realized it was a Hillarite pushpoll

[SunsetDreams]

20. There needs to be a HUGE push back on this....Hillary and her surogates need

to answer for this blatant lying.

Have they lost so much faith in their positives that they only sell themselves by using negative talking points about the other candidate?

Yeah I really want someone like that for President! NOT!

[hendo]

24. I used to work for a company that did calls like this..

most politicians run push polls, I always refused to do them when i came in and found out that we were doing a push poll that night. They are just disgusting.

[GarbagemanLB]

26. *SEND THIS EVERYWHERE*

[cui bono]

28. call from the firm of Geoff Garin, the new head of Hillary Clinton's campaign team

North Carolina activist David LaMotte just got a push poll call from the firm of Geoff Garin, the new head of Hillary Clinton's campaign team. It wasn't as bad as asking "would it change your mind if you knew John Kerry actually bought his Vietnam medals off E-Bay." Or "How do you feel about John McCain's illegitimate black children?" But it was a push poll nonetheless, even if it also had elements of information gathering and message testing. This isn't the first time that the Clinton campaign or their allies have had pollsters offering positive information about Clinton and negative information about her opponents--they did it on the eve of the California primaryand in South Carolina. (And firms linked to the Giuliani campaignmade highly negative push poll calls against Mitt Romney in Iowa and New Hampshire) But it's a disturbing practice precisely because it tries to spin the recipient under the pretense of merely asking about their views.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/24/133728/667/829/502604

[mudesi]

31. I wonder what Hillary supporters will say about this

They'll probably ignore it entirely or find some way to condone it.

:puke:

[blogslut]

36. Oh, it's better than that

Read upthread. Someone said it was really teh Obama campaign making the call so that Clinton would look bad. This is HUGH!!!!!11!11!!! I'M SERIES!!!!!1!!1

[blogslut]

37. Let's go to the numbers, Johnny

link: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/23/165537.aspx

Clinton, Obama neck and neck in SC
Posted: Monday, April 23, 2007 6:25 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray and Chuck Todd

Just three days before the Democratic presidential debate in South Carolina, a new poll by South Carolina NBC affiliate WIS-TV finds that Clinton and Obama are running neck and neck in the state. In the poll, which was conducted by Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group, Clinton is the preferred choice of 24% of likely Democratic primary voters, Obama is at 23%, and Edwards is at 16%.

The votes were also split along racial lines. Seventeen percent of white voters said they backed Clinton, compared with 31% of African Americans who did so. Obama received similar support (16% among whites and 29% among blacks), but Edwards' numbers were flipped (28% among whites and 7% among blacks).

Actual results of the SC primary?

OBAMA - 55.4%
CLINTON - 26.5%
EDWARDS - 17.6%

Garin-Hart-Yang: Wrong on polling. Wrong for America.

link to results: http://www.state.sc.us/cgi-bin/scsec/scsec-demprisw-012608f.pl

[scheming daemons]

38. This needs to be sent to KO.... to EVERYONE.....

[Rageneau]

39. Outside of it being a 'push' poll, what exactly is the matter with this?

What is wrong with pointing out the weaknesses in one's opponent?

Dont I hear that sort of thing from Obama supporters all the time -- such as, "Would you vote for a person who gave Bush the authority to go to war in Iraq?"

Is that not a legitimate push poll type question?

Is it push polls per se that need to be done away with? Or only push polls that injure Obama; anti-Clinton push polls being perfectly okay?

[scheming daemons]

40. Push polls are wrong... most are illegal.... all are unethical

...and that's true no matter the target.


Let's be BETTER than them (the Repukes).

[JackORoses]

41. kick

[SoCalDem]

42. First of all, the person reading the script to the callee, is TERRIBLE

and second.. I think most people would hang up instead of listening to the rambling, halting spiel of the script.

That said, it's a despicable tactic for Hillary, but not unexpected...shameful behavior from a former president and first lady..:puke:

[Norrin Radd]

43. k

[OregonBlue]

44. Sent to Keith, Tweety, Wolf, etc.

[ej510]

45. Hillary s a fuckin piece of shit.