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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:13 PM
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IN Polling Data SurveyUSA Vin Gupta CEO who gave 3.5M to Bill Clinton off the charts for Hillary!!
OK - I checked the polling data on RealClearPolitics as I always do to find out what the charts were saying and I saw something fishy in the totals! All but 1 had Obama ahead and the one that was way over the top was SurveyUSA which is headed by CEO Vin Gupta - The Man the Clinton's Love!

Check it out here:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/may/30vin.htm

and here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/globality

surveyUSA CEO Vinod Gupta gave 3.5 million in consulting fees to Bill Clinton. His shareholders have sued Vinod Gupta for misuse of shareholder funds claiming the money was spent to gain personal favors with ex pres and not in best interest of shareholders.

And check the polling data out at RealClearPolitics here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_democratic_primary-639.html

Indiana Democratic Primary Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Spread
RCP Average 04/10 - 04/24 - 45.5 44.3 Clinton +1.2

Research 2000 04/23 - 04/24 400 LV 47 48 Obama +1.0
Downs Center 04/14 - 04/16 578 LV 45 50 Obama +5.0
LA Times/Bloomberg 04/10 - 04/14 554 LV 35 Obama +5.0
SurveyUSA 04/11 - 04/13 571 LV 55 39 Clinton +16.0

............

Anyone else with me on this perception! Does it sound like 2000 to you???????? Jeb Bush was Governor of Florida and was in place for W - is Vin Gupta in place for HRC?

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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:20 PM
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1. This situation is getting pretty ugly from the Clinton's, I think they are
getting desperate enough to do anything.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:16 PM
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2. I can't find anything...
that connects that polling company to InfoUSA

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In July 2007, Opinion Research, an infoUSA company, acquired NWC Research, an Asia Pacific research company based in Australia, with offices in Singapore and Malaysia. In June 2007, infoUSA announced the acquisition of expresscopy.com, based in Portland, Oregon. In June 2006, the Company acquired Mokrynskidirect. In October 2006, infoUSA completed the acquisition of Digital Connexxions, an e-mail marketing company headquartered in Oakville, Ontario. In November 2006, it acquired Rubin Response Services, Inc. In December 2006, the Company completed the acquisition of Opinion Research Corporation (ORC).
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Clinton Library Sells Secret Donor List
November 19, 2007 1:47 PM

Avni Patel and Marcus Baram Report:
Three years after the William J. Clinton Presidential Library opened its doors, the list of donors who helped the former president build his $165 million complex remains a secret from the public.

Yet the Blotter on ABCNews.com has learned that the Clinton Foundation sold portions of the list through a data company headed by a longtime friend and donor.

"The fact that they've sold the list and then turned around and said that these names must be kept anonymous completely undercuts their argument," said Sheila Krumholz of the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington, D.C.-based government watchdog group that tracks the influence of money in politics.

An employee of Walter Karl, a subsidiary of the data company InfoUSA, told ABCNews.com that the company made a list of more than 38,000 donors to the Clinton presidential library available for sale to foundations and other nonprofit groups from June 2006 to May 2007. A spokesman for the company would not say how the profits from the sale of the partial list were distributed.
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The little that is known about the identities of the donors to the Clinton library was reported by the New York Sun in 2004, after a reporter discovered the names on a touch-screen computer on the third floor of the library after its opening.

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Vin Gupta, CEO of InfoUSA, was also on the list of donors giving $1 million or more.

His ties to the Clintons came under scrutiny earlier in the year when a lawsuit filed by InfoUSA shareholders accused Gupta of wasting millions of dollars of the company's money to "ingratiate himself" with the Clintons and other personal friends.

Separately, a New York Times article in May revealed that InfoUSA was involved in an investigation in Iowa for selling mailing lists of elderly Americans to criminals. In response to the investigation, the company released a statement saying, "While InfoUSA can not manage what a client does with the publicly available information InfoUSA provides, the company has a strict policy about not selling data to companies who act illegally."

Gupta has donated and raised millions of dollars for the Clintons' political campaigns and charities over the last decade. InfoUSA spent millions more paying the former president as a consultant and flying him and his wife to events around the country and family vacations in Hawaii and Acapulco, Mexico on the company's private jet, according to the court documents.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:57 PM
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16. I can't either.
But the dissemination of misinformation and the swallowing it whole has been elevated to a true art here.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:22 PM
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17. Here are some links - but you could be right - I couldn't find a concrete link but it is still fishy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/globality

and this one:

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26617

The only polls worth a damn are the exit polls. If Hillary claims that Zogby has a problem then she can't use any SurveyUSA or InfoUSA polls that are owned by her best friend Vinod Gupta. CNN should cut their contract with Gupta too. Last I checked, Zogby hasn't written a $3 million check to Bill Clinton for "consulting' work.

and this one:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/clinton-rips-me.html

SurveyUSA is owned by InfoUSA whose CEO is a major Clinton supporter who had been flying the Clintons around in the InfoUSA's corporate jet and paying Bill a lot of money for services rendered. So those poll numbers that are strangely different than all of the others is questionable.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:16 PM
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22. I noticed this a while back..
I'm not sure what it was that had me thinking that SurveryUSA was under the umbrella of InfoUSA, but in any case Vin Gupta is a good friend to have.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:34 PM
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23. something else..

SurveyUSA® and Crisis•Call® are registered trademarks of Hypotenuse, Inc., Verona, NJ.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:08 PM
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19. OK I think I found it! Here is the link & a video with it too about this! Great find!!
http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2008/02/clinton-gives-donor-list-to-cnn-polling.html

Clinton Gives Donor List To CNN Polling Company - Poll Rigged?

(snip)

I argued that CNN -- the Cable News Network -- should not be using polls that came from a company linked to Vinod Gupta, a major Clinton Donor. Gupta owns Info USA and the Opinion Research Corporation (OPC). It's the OPC that makes the polls that are reported by CNN, and those same polls early in the 2008 Democratic Presidential race gave consistently enormously high leads for Senator Clinton. Polls by the OPC were consistently high for months, even as other organizations like Gallup USA began to show Obama closing on Clinton.

Now, it's revealed in this NPR article that the Clinton campaign sold -- or rented -- their donor list (which contains 38,000 names) to Info USA and the OPC, but NPR's article does not make the extra step of explaining why InfoUSA / OPC would even need such a list. That's what this video is about. The list was rented for just $8,225, and not the six-figures it's valued to be, and the Clinton campaign did not collect the money until 11-months after the list was delivered.

............

SurveyUSA does polling for CNN and is owned by Gupta per this site. Here is one of their polls in the SC primary:

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll

http://www.swivel.com/data_columns/spreadsheet/7304117?value=CNN%2FOpinion+Research+Corporation+Poll

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:42 PM
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24. No...he doesn't mention...
"Survey" USA..just "InfoUSA" which owns Opinion Research Corporation.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:18 PM
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3. SUSA had Clinton +12 in PA and nailed CA when everyone else was saying Obama would win
SUSA has been one of the most reliable this season
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:19 PM
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4. clinton won PA by 9 points not 12
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:22 PM
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5. true, but that was within the margin of error (9.3%) within 3 of 12%
most other pollsters had the margin being below 5 or even tied.

Checkout pollster.com for a comparison.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:25 PM
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10. the last SUSA poll of PA had Clinton +6
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:25 PM by jsamuel
if you average their last two, that is 9, lol
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:25 PM
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9. That's pretty damn close.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:28 PM
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13. Newsmax/Zogby had Clinton by 10, which is better.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:28 PM by woolldog
Others had her up by 8 which is also better.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:39 PM
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15. they also had Obama by double digits in CA
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:27 AM
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25. Do you have any idea how ridiculous this is?
They were basically as close as anybody. Perhaps they didn't push their undecideds as hard as others did. Others had her +7, Rasmussen had her +5, PPP had Obama +3. All in all, pretty damn close.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:23 PM
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6. Downs Center
The Downs Center poll you listed was conducted by SurveyUSA. Your tinfoil hat doesn't fit.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:24 PM
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7. GREAT FIND! We cannot make the same mistake with Hillary that we did with Bush Jr...
...We all knew the tactics he'd used in Texas, and the kind of destruction he did to the state for his own gain.

But many Democrats didn't want to believe that a sitting president could stand silently while 9/11 was planned ane executed..

...that a sitting president could provide cover for Enron so that Ken Lay and the other executives would have long enough to secure their own fortunes, all the while claiming Enron was financially solid, while the entire time they knew that in less than three months they would be declaring bankruptcy...

...that a sitting president would approve torture as an interrogation method...

...that a sitting president would render prisoners to other countries where more fatal and heinous torture methods could be used...

...that a sitting president would out a CIA agent for cheap revenge.

But they all happened, and we should have ALL known that they would. For many, they just did not want to go there. TO think that a sitting president would harm America for his own profit was as scary as realizing that two elections could be stolen by vote fraud.

There were all the evidence in the world to tell us that he would do ANYTHING to get what he wanted, and no evidence to show that he would not.

We must not make the same mistake with Hillary. Many Democrats, especially ex-loyalists, can't bring themselves to believe that she and Bill would do the things they would do. If you would have told me 8 years ago that the Clintons would be pandering to bigots, I would have ripped you a new one.

Since that time, she has shown herself to be a puppet of her corporate bosses, because that is the only way she can become an Elite: to whore her power as Senator-the power WE gave her by supporting her and voting for her--to buy her way in to the ranks of the Elites.

Thank you so much for finding this information. We should have all been looking for this before. I'm glad your eyes were more open than the eyes of myself and the rest of us.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:24 PM
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8. Polling has been politicized to the point where the outliers are cartoonish.
It's propaganda, baby, pure and simple.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:26 PM
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12. Read above SUSA's final PA poll was in line with the poll average
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:25 PM
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11. SUSA has also been the most accurate pollster this year...
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:36 PM
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14. What? Polling numbers trying to force the issue? Inconceivable! (Zogby/NewsMax)
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:23 PM
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18. I want to see some NC polls. It is possible Obama is cratering.
In IN at least.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:09 PM
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20. If you want to point fingers at pollsters...How about PPP or Zogby.
Sounds like a much better choice to me to spend those PhonyOutrageDollars.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:11 PM
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21. Um, Gupta was with InfoUSA, not SurveyUSA. n/t
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merciful Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:29 AM
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26. Survey USA is not headed by Vinod Gupta
Gupta owns Opinion Research, which does polling for CNN.

Jeez, do better research next time.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:25 AM
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27. sadly...
most people just hear the poll results, they don't have clue ONE where and by whom the polls are paid for.

good find.
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Secret_Society Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:32 AM
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28. I don't know about CEOs but SUSA has been the most accurate polling this election
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