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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:10 PM
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If our votes are good enough, then our candidates should be good enough, too
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 10:49 PM by EffieBlack
Black folk have been watching from the sidelines for centuries as white men held the monopoly on political power - and often turned around and used that power as a club against us. Black men got constitutional protection for their right to vote in 1865 with the ratification of the 15th Amendment, but it took it took another full century for the federal government to begin enforcing that right with the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Although women (black and white) got constitutional protection of their right to vote in 1920 with the 19th Amendment, black women watched white women immediately exercise their constitutional franchise unencumbered, while remaining just as disenfranchised as ever for another 45 years.

Once acquired, the voting power of black men and women was directed (and not always by choice) almost exclusively for the benefit of white men, who continued to control and hold virtually all of the major political offices. Until today, more than 140 years after the 15th Amendment (and more than 40 years after the passage of the Voting Rights Act), despite all of our other political, social and economic gains, blacks have been shut out of the top of the political pyramid, which might as well have been marked with a sign: "FOR WHITES ONLY."

Despite this, despite beatings, draconian legal barriers, intimidation and worse, black folk lined up year after year after year to vote for an endless string of white men for president. Every four years, we canvassed, we campaigned, we registered other voters and then we loyally, fervently and wholeheartedly gave our precious, hard-earned, blood-stained votes to the Democratic presidential nominee, regardless how inattentive to our needs, mediocre or unelectable they may have been.

We didn't say in 1972, "We'd better not vote for George McGovern. He's an unelectable white man. Shirley Chisholm should get a chance." We didn't say in 1984, "That white man Walter Mondale can't beat Ronald Reagan." We didn't say in 1988, "Dukakis may have the most delegates and may have one the most votes and may have won the most primaries, but we need someone stronger, so let's force the superdelegates to pick Jesse Jackson as the nominee." We didn't say in 2004, "John Kerry is just too white to run against George Bush. I'll bet Al Sharpton could beat Bush, but since he didn't get the nomination, I'll sit this one out."

No - we didn't trash the Democratic candidates, refuse to vote for them, throw a hissy fit and threaten to hold our breaths till we turned blue because a candidate that WE wanted didn't win the nomination, or scream loudly that it was absolutely ridiculous and shameful that white men continued to have an exclusive lock on the Democratic presidential nomination and thought nothing about asking for our votes but never once offered us a seat at the table. We supported them with all of our hearts and, as a result, are the most stalwart and reliable pillars of the Democratic base (certainly more stalwart and reliable than the blue-collar white men that commentators and some Democrats seem to believe are the end-all-and-be-all of the party who must be courted, wooed and catered to at all costs)

And that's why many of us feel our hearts swelling with pride when we see Barack Obama not only hold his own, but kick ass all around the country. Even if we support another candidate, we are proud of him, not because he is so unique - since after all, we've known brilliant, accomplished black men all our lives, through all of our history, so he's not anything new, at least to us. He's not much different from many of our brothers, sons, fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers. We're not proud of him because he's a first for us. We're proud of him because for the first time, AMERICA is actually seeing and paying attention to one of our own "black shining princes" and will maybe figure out that we've got it going on, too.

Yet now, despite all of our hard work, commitment and loyalty, we now must put up with Democrats, of all people, COMPLAINING that an African American, THIS African American who has earned the right to be exactly where he is, might actually end up winning the Democratic nomination, INSISTING that NOW IS NOT YET THE TIME for him, and PREDICTING that, not only would he lose the general election, but that his loss would be BECAUSE of he's black and that such a loss would be an unmitigated disaster not only for the Democratic Party, but for the future prospects of blacks in the political world.

Well, to those people I say this:

If Barack Obama wins the Democratic nomination, each and every one of you need to get in line and get to work. African-Americans have given our blood, sweat and tears to this party and to this country. It is time for the party (and, by that I mean the people IN the party) to return some of that commitment and loyalty.

If you intended to work your ass off for the Democratic nominee if it was Hillary Clinton or John Edwards or Dennis Kucinich or Joseph Biden or anyone else, then you need to work just as hard for Barack Obama, should he win the nomination.

Do not tell us that Obama is not good enough or deserving enough or ready or enough to sit at the table with the people who have chased after our votes every four years decade after decade. If you don't think HE's good enough, you don't think that WE'RE good enough.

If our votes are good enough for you - and clearly they have been, given how fervently the party and its long line of white male standard bearers have chased after our support - then our brother Barack should be good enough for you, too. If, when put to the test, you show us that you don't think we are good enough for your votes, don't be surprised when we decide that you aren't good enough for OURS.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:17 PM
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1. This white person agrees with you 100%
I don't believe we owe it to any candidate to choose "their" candidate for the nomination, but African Americans have been our most loyal voting bloc for decades, and if Barack does get the nomination we all owe it to the African American community to work our asses off to get him elected regardless of who we supported in the primaries. I feel the same way about Clinton, although if she gets the nomination under what many would consider tainted circumstances I personally would have a hard time going back to the black neighborhoods I canvassed in Philly on Tuesday and asking people to come out and vote for her.

Getting a black man elected president is not going to be easy, and we as a party need to have all hands on deck if we are going to try to do it. I can't speak for the rest of the party activists, but I promise you, if Barack gets the nomination, I will put my heart and soul into helping get him elected.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:18 PM
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2. You are totally justified to feel this way.
I will work my old white ass off for Obama.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:25 PM
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3. This 56 year old white man completely agrees.
It's time.

I am working my ass off for Obama.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:27 PM
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4. 41-year-old white man who is with ya 100%, Effie....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:32 PM
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5. I'm just realizing that King's dream and Obama's Race speech
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 10:32 PM by FrenchieCat
were much too complicated and difficult for the corporate media and those who hang on their every word to actually understand.

To continue to harbor prejudice against an entire group of people based solely on their skin color is really quite uncomprehensible.

If Barack is cheated out of his earned efforts as our nominee due to our relenteless media and the "good" Americans (Germans) that would buy into the sort of thinking in the 21st century, then all that I can say is that everything you believe that America is supposed to stand for is nothing more than a fraud. And so those worried about who's going to say what about a flagpin or a Black Pastor are really about as unpatriotic as they come.

The question that the result that this election will answer is; does America really stand for anything good?

The world is watching, and soon we shall know, and so will everyone else.

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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:35 PM
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6. 42 year old cracker who has way more confidence in the CBC than many of the old white guys
Serving with them.

I will not stand for the nod being taken away from him. I will do all I can to ensure there is another party for me to turn to for years to come if that happens.

Race has never been an issue for me though. People are people the only thing I see in peoples skin color is a cool way to set off the outfit they are wearing.


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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:37 PM
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7. Effie, you know I'm with you.
K&R.

:thumbsup:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:43 PM
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8. Another 41 year-old White man here. I got your back.
Over the bus, under the bus, inside the bus. I got your back.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:38 PM
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14. Thank you, my noble alabaster brother.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 11:39 PM by EffieBlack
:yourock:
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:44 PM
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9. As always, another 100% unvarnished truth post from you
Thank you EffieBlack.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:45 PM
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10. I stand with you 100%.
:patriot:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:47 PM
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11. Barack Obama 44th POTUS!
Great post!


This old white Grandmother is handing out "Yes We Can" bracelets at work tomorrow!



K and R

:patriot:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:48 PM
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12. Thank You...
a wonderful, HONEST post!
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:38 AM
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15. Thanks.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:50 PM
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13. K&R
This merits a 1,000 recommends.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:03 AM
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16. Thank you for your wonderful, heartfelt post!
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:20 PM
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17. Kicking
This is a good thread that should not have gotten buried.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:25 PM
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18. Error: You've already recommended that thread.
The content of Barack's character is why I'm voting for him. That his Presidency will help the sordid state of race relations in this country is icing on the cake.

Thanks Effie for a great post.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:41 PM
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19. Hell yes he's good enough!
I worked my ass off for Bill Clinton in 1992, thinking that the era of the Bush Crime Family was over forever. Obviously, things turned out differently.

This time, that era HAS to be gone for good. Or everything that was ever good about America will be. Barack Obama gets that. And so do those who support him. And in no way does that minimize the historical significance of him being the first African-American President. Nor should it. Obviously, I can't speak for or to the "black experience" as a white man, but I see America's last best hope to change the disastrous direction of this country. And that's why I'm on board

Hillary cannot turn it around, and I don't believe she has any interest in doing so. And old Grandpa McLoon doesn't even know anything's wrong. We can not allow either of them to walk away with this. For the good of America itself. Let alone the Democratic party. And yes, the rest of the world too. They need to see that imperial fascism is NOT the will of the American people.

This white man stands with Barack Obama.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:08 PM
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20. self-kick
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:19 PM
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21. As usual, totally agree!
Great post Effie, well said. :)

22 year old white kid here and race has never been an issue for me other than the fact that my friends have had to deal with it and it pisses me off quite a bit.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:26 PM
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22. Notice there are no Hillary supporters weighing in.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:34 PM
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23. K and R. nt
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:38 PM
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24. I love reading posts like this! K/R from a 42 y/o white guy
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:39 PM
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25. K & R and then I shut up...
People, re-read that OP 'til it's branded in your conscience.
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marimour Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:42 PM
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26. you've put into words all of my thoughts about the democratic party lately
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:08 PM
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27. tell 'em effie.
he has won. she cannot possibly win, unless they steal it from him. that is what they are building up to-theft. only this time dems will be stealing it. if they steal it, i may have to leave my beloved party-it just makes me so sad and frustrated. as soon as we learn how to play the game, they change the rules. i have seen it happen too many times in other aspects of my life. to see the hard work that this man has put in. the many supporters of all races and ages working hard and working together. corporate america can't handle the little being empowered.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:24 PM
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28. k-r
:kick:
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