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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:31 PM
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Meet the Credentials Committee.
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/03/22/demdelegates_0323.html
There are 186 people in this country who ultimately could select the Democratic presidential nominee.

Most of them do not know they'll soon wield such power. They will be picked by their state parties or by the party's national chairman to be on the Credentials Committee to the Democratic National Convention. It's normally a political reward, but this year the job could seem more like punishment. Four Georgians will be among the chosen.

If the dispute over what to do about Florida and Michigan — whose Democratic primary results have not been recognized by the party — is not settled by the time Democrats gather in August in Denver, the Credentials Committee will probably make the call on what to do about delegates from the rogue states, which defied the party by moving up their primary dates.

The committee could decide whether those delegates are seated at the convention, and to which candidate they are pledged.

The ultimate winner of the nomination could ride on the outcome.


To avoid the prospect of a brokered convention, which many Democrats believe would splinter the party less than three months before the November general election, party leaders in Florida and Michigan have floated several plans for a revote. None has stuck. As of late last week, it did not appear that new votes would be held in either state.

In comes the Credentials Committee. The 186 Democrats that will form the committee will be chosen during the next several months. DNC Chairman Howard Dean appoints 25 of them, which he has already done.

The others are elected by the state parties, based on population. While Georgia gets four, California gets 17. Georgia's four will be chosen by the members of the convention delegation, which won't be finalized until the state convention in May.

If Florida or Michigan Democrats file a challenge to the DNC's decision to strip them of their delegates (a near certainty), the challenge will be heard by the Credentials Committee. The committee probably will meet in July and consider the challenge at that time. The committee would have great leeway to settle the dispute.

According to the DNC, the committee could:

• Uphold the sanctions and bar all the delegates;

• Allow all of them to be seated; or

• Create some kind of hybrid where half the delegates get to attend.

The committee could also decide how many of each state's delegates get awarded to which candidate.

Even then, it's not over.

On the first day of the convention, Aug. 25, the Credentials Committee presents its report to the seated convention delegates. The report, which will contain the decision on Florida and Michigan, must be approved by the delegates — including all the superdelegates.


Get to know the credentials committee. This 186 member group will ultimately decide who our nominee is. For those who aren't familiar with the how the group works, the 186 members of the credential committee will evaluate which delegates should be seated. The pledged delegates from 48 states are a given to be seated. Whether the other 2 state's delegates, Florida and Michigan, are ultimately seated will determine who the nominee is. For those who are hoping to have this nomination sewn up by the first week of June, you will be sorely dissapointed. The credentials committee, with a vote from the superdelegates, will have the final say on whom is nominated, and they will convene and make their decision in Late August at the convention. Obama will not get away with reaching the 2025 threshold through backroom deals without the credentials committee having a say. Get ready for a long two months after the final primaries end. Hillary has every right to take this to the convention and let the credentials committee have the final say.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:33 PM
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1. The Ides of June will be the end of Hillary..... and she'll be saying "et tu, Rahm?"
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:33 PM
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2. This will be over in June. Hillary can stay in, but the SDs will go to Obama.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:40 PM
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4. The superdelegates can and should change their mind at the convention in August.
Obama can "clinch" the nomination in June by the virtue of back room deals. But this nomination will be decided at the convention by the credentials committee. The superdelegates will change their mind if they want to win Michigan and Florida in the general.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:43 PM
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6. The SDs WON'T change their mind if they want to have any chance at winning in November. You
have no idea the sort of shit-storm that will occur if the historic AA candidate, who WINS the pledged delegate race, loses because of fears of 'electability'.

You are living in a fantasy, I am sorry to say.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:02 PM
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15. heh heh
guess who wields the most influence over that committee?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:35 PM
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3. Meet
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:40 PM
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5. Does that math include the fact that Obama cannot reach 2024 pledged delegates? n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:44 PM
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7. No because he can, check the link again.
The part where it says: Did Obama just win the nomination without a single additional superdelegate?

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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:45 PM
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8. If the Florida and Michigan delegates are seated, the threshold to clinch the nomination is not 2024
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:10 PM
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9. You're right the threshold becomes 2208. Still the reality is
Hillary would have to score 30-pt wins in Guam, KY, WV and PR, and 50-50 split in the SD, OR, MT just to get close to Obama as indicated.

The reality is that she will end up with anywhere from 50 to 100 delegates behind Obama. She cannot erase his pledged delegate lead.

Her case will not improve. She has lost.



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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:12 PM
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10. Lets say some scandal occurs that leaves Hillary unelectable..will you come crawling back?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:26 PM
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11. I will support Obama if he wins the nomination.
I am convinced we will not win the election if he is the nominee, however.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:26 PM
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12. Thats not what I asked.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:01 PM
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14. It's a good enough answer.
Hillary has already been vetted. There are no skeletons in her closet nobody knows about.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:27 PM
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13. As will I. nt
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