A free graphic of Hillary Clinton...what do you think?

[zulchzulu]

Someone earlier today was mentioning a Hillary poster they saw at a rally in Philadelphia, so I mimicked a quick Photoshop version of it. It's based on some of the poster techniques being used by the candidates.

I tried to be "neutral" without being overly in one direction positive or negative.

What do you think of it?

[davidinalameda]

1. St Hillary?

scary

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[HCE SuiGeneris]

38. That's it.

Your pass to Bill and Hillary's Excellent Adventure is revoked. Back to the end of the line!

[charlie]

42. You are SO first against the wall

come the Revolution. Unless you're a rabid Republican by then, of course. Then you'll have to endure a lifetime of needy "reaching out" for your favorable opinion. I don't know which is the worse fate.

[davidinalameda]

129. by then?

you're giving some people the benefit of the doubt

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

52. That's horrible. Imagine how you'd react if Sen. Obama was the subject of that freeperish pic.

[rodeodance]

66. It probably came from a RW site.

[TahitiNut]

83. How about the New York Times?? Would you like that better??

"Saint Hillary" has been the subtext of her posture for YEARS! (Poor Nell!)



Published in the New York Times Magazine, May 23, 1993

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

95. Like Sen. Obama with his halo.

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[BleedingHeartPatriot]

87. You took the imagery, with none of the context. If they had an article about Obama "stoking our

deepest fears" and a pic of him tied up with a rope, I guess it would be fine to post the picture here because it came from Mother Jones, right?

[TahitiNut]

89. Sure. Fine with me. Why don't you suggest it to their Editorial Baord??

You DO know who Mother Jones was, don't you??? (Sheesh!!)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

93. The article is a hit piece, about stoking "hatred".

[rodeodance]

53. Tying Hillary at a stake--is advocating Violence toward women!

[TahitiNut]

85. Tell it to Mother Jones magazine. (They'll get a laugh, I'm sure.)

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/harpy_hero_heretic_hillary.html

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

92. Yes, mass murder is funny!

[TahitiNut]

94. Why don't you ask St. Hillary about that? How many Iraqis murdered with Clinton complicity??

Get off the tracks, Nell. :eyes:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

96. You certainly seem proud of posting that picture, advocating for violence.

Hope, indeed. :eyes:

[TahitiNut]

97. Want a tissue?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

99. LOL.

:-)

[rodeodance]

105. and Obama continuing to FUND the war has done the "Iraqis murder"

[durrrty libby]

122. "It's Mother Jones.....It's Mother Jones........It's Mother Jones"

I don't give a fuck if it were Father Time.

Evidently, it's not a rumor, it's a fact. BoBots have actually been lobotomized

[TahitiNut]

123. "It probably came from a RW site."

Read much? That's the Hilldroid stance. Just like you ASSume that anything Hilldroids don't like MUST be a "BoBot."

That's just fucking ad hominem nonsense! Even a semi-literate person could read my Journal and see otherwise.

Asinine!

[Dinger]

56. Beyond Inflammatory

Wow, I can't believe I'm seeing this on DU, just can't believe it.

[MADem]

64. Neither can I--but I guess she's "just a girl" so this sort of egregious offense is "ok." nt

[durrrty libby]

78. I asked the mods if it would be ok to depict BO with ropes around him

You know, maybe something like a very big necklace. We'll see if they respond

[rodeodance]

81. yes,...

we will see.

[TahitiNut]

86. Mother Jones magazine, January/February 2007 Issue ... try telling THEM that.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/harpy_hero_heretic_hillary.html

If you prefer the New York Times from 1993, try this on for size ...

[MADem]

124. Since when did those publications get their anti-misogyny inoculations?

Just because they're large and well-known doesn't mean they're always RIGHT.

If that's the case, why, USA TODAY can do no wrong.

[libbygurl]

57. Lessee, if we but BO in those ropes instead of Hillary, would it be as funny for you?

This pic you bandy about with pride is the product of a sick, infantile mind. Pathetic.

[Branjor]

67. Not only that....

With the stake and the flames in the background it is a picture of witch burning - a several hundred years long holocaust in Europe that left millions of women dead.

[rodeodance]

70. If there was a pic

of a rope and Obama would it be allowed to stay up??

Is there any difference? both advocate violence--one against women
the other against Blacks.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

76. It certainly calls up that image. I guess evoking mass murder is just peachy keen here,

these days.

on edit, it's the equivalent of showing a gun against her head, or a rope around her neck. But, this is OK, because she's just a woman, apparently.

[rodeodance]

82. yes, it done to a woman--it appears to be peachy!

[TahitiNut]

88. Tell Mother Jones magazine about it. It's from their January/February 2007 Issue.

Go suck on that one for a while. :rofl:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/harpy_hero_heretic_hillary.html

Your reaction is absolutely ICONIC of the very reason this portrayal of "St. Hilllary of Arc" is so damned dead on. "Poor Hillary! She's such a victim!!" (Yeah. Riiiight.)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

91. And, that's your defense of posting that picture here? And that article is a hit piece, even if it

in Mother Jones.

Nothing like a little celebration of mass murder, in the morning, huh? Complete with laughing smiley and all.

[TahitiNut]

98. Got a bunny handy?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

101. Brilliant riposte, are you sure aren't related to Oscar Wilde?

:-)

[Straight Shooter]

100. We don't need to tell Mother Jones. You're the one posting it here on DU.

That responsibility is yours alone.

[TahitiNut]

103. "we"??? Got crabs, huh?

Pity. :nopity:

[Straight Shooter]

106. Lame. Extremely lame. n/t

[rodeodance]

108. The offensive photo is gone:-)

[TahitiNut]

111. You must be very proud.

:eyes:

[TahitiNut]

110. Yes, you are.

When you resort to the rhetoric of a playground bully ("we" vs. "you"), you've abdicated reason, lost perspective, and play the victim in a GANG.

It's bullshit.

[Straight Shooter]

112. You don't even make sense anymore in your counter arguments.

But thanks for playing. :hi:

[dailykoff]

2. A for awesome.

She doesn't deserve it, though.

[IndianaGreen]

3. I love it! Hillary with the Japanese Imperial flag as a backdrop!

Very appropriate and accurate.

:-)

[mcctatas]

5. ....

:rofl:
I wondered why it looked familiar!

[MADem]

13. You don't know your flags, do you?

The Japanese battle flag,



as opposed to the national flag



(which has none), has more rays than depicted in that graphic.

The EMPEROR's flag is a different thing altogether. It looks like this:




Of course, you just couldn't resist the cheap, though inaccurate, shot. Unsurprising.

The graphic of the Senator is still quite nice, despite your attempt at demeaning it.

[IndianaGreen]

15. Since Hillary thinks that Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't enough

She is the new nuclear shogun.

[MADem]

16. You're just unintelligent. There's nothing more to say. NT

[rodeodance]

61. and poster shows it to for all the world to see

[SwampG8r]

113. i think its a copy

of a chairman mao poster

[L0oniX]

115. Yea that's what I thought too ...Kind of a Chinese flag?

[Jed Dilligan]

27. You really do specialize in calling people wrong when they really aren't.

It's the military flag and the best-known symbol of Imperial Japan. There is nothing at all inaccurate in calling it the "Japanese Imperial flag." It is an Imperial flag, just not the Emperor's flag. And yes, the version of the rising sun used by the modern "Self-Defence" forces is not the same. The one behind her in the image is distinctly imperial.

It's funny but also sad to see you deep-parsing to defend an image of your candidate associated with a symbol of genocide and expansionism that is recognized around the world.

[MADem]

31. That's the BATTLE flag. The flag of the EMPEROR, which is where you

were going with the snarky Queen and Empress bullshit, is the third one I provided.

You remain in error. Your insisting that you are right, when you're not, doesn't change a damned thing.

Oh, FWIW, the flag of the Empress is much like that of the Emperor, only it is a notched pennant.

Funny and sad to see parsing, eh? Well, that's pretty "funny" indeed, actually....because the reference was inaccurate, the image behind the photo is NOT what the snarkmeisters like you are averring it is, and the whole "funny" (translation--moronic and childish) joke is just stupid, because the symbol behind her is NOT what you are saying it is.

Duh. Not the sharpest knife, certainly. Count the rays, there, Sparky. The number is completely off, to say nothing of the geometry of the thing. But then, someone who didn't know what the fuck they were talking about might not notice those "details."

:rofl:

You have a nice day, now!

:hi:

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[MADem]

39. Look at you, showing yours--getting so pissed off at Senator Clinton!

Temper, TEMPER!

Not a happy warrior, are you? Nothing good to say about your candidate? Your only recourse is to make fun of a photo of the Senator, get angry because you don't know a graphic design from the Japanese battle flag AND and make up lies about the Senator, to boot?



Wow, that's some swell YES WE CAN attitude ya got working there, cowboy!

Nothing positive to say about Hope-Change-Believe?





Not a thing?



Oh, and calling people IDIOT? That's against the DU rules, there, pardner...

Yippie ki yi yo! See ya round the corral, cowpoke!

:crazy: :hi:

[Eric Condon]

44. So, after calling another poster "unintelligent," YOU'RE on a high horse about ad hominem attacks?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5677011&mesg_id=5677236

[MADem]

45. Ah, you've pulled out the old "Ad Hominem ATTACK" attack!

When someone blatantly LIES, they're "unintelligent."

That's the kindest thing one can say about them.

You have a nice day, now!

:hi:

[Eric Condon]

46. Even if they WERE lying, the word is "dishonest," not "unintelligent."

But the more important point is that they WEREN'T lying. Do you know what "obliterate" means?

[MADem]

48. No, the word was appropriate to the level of the prevarication.

And I'm not the one who needs a dictionary, either.

Say....You have a nice day, now, Skippy!

:hi:

[cboy4]

55. Obama supporters upset about name-calling

:spray:

That's rich, ain't it?

[MADem]

63. Sure is! nt

[Eric Condon]

121. Yeah, when it's completely unjustified, "Obama supporters" can get upset about name-calling. nt

[Shakespeare]

72. Par for that poster. n/t

[Asgaya Dihi]

17. First thing I thought of too

wtf was she doing in front of a Rising Sun flag?

[Jed Dilligan]

28. There's a real poster of her like that being waved at rallies

It also resembles a poster of Mao, who, when you think about it, must also have been out of his head when he approved his image against the rising sun.

[DJ13]

4. Makes her look like she's running for the Premier of Japan

Come to think of it, that wouldnt be a bad idea.

:silly:

[IndianaGreen]

6. More like running for the empress of Japan

She can't get dynastic rule out of her veins.

[DJ13]

8. Yeah, thats better!

:thumbsup:

[newmajority]

7. For some reason it reminds me of......

M-m-m-max Headroom

[melody]

9. I'm trapped between a beach ball, a halo effect and the patio umbrella sale at Sears

It's just really ... not.

[MUAD_DIB]

10. It resembles those corporate themed posters like

"Teamwork", ect.

Other than that it really doesn't say anything...except Hillary.

[Swamp Rat]

11. She has what plants crave.

She's got electrolytes! :9

[PBS Poll-435]

26. That NEVER gets old.

Never-Ever!

[L0oniX]

117. LMFAO

[cliffordu]

12. Chairman mao??

[CoffeeCat]

14. Is that the Jimmy Dean Breakfast Sandwich backdrop?

I swear that design behind her, is the packaging on the Jimmy Dean Breakfast sandwich
packaging.

Spin: It's what's for breakfast!

[Political Heretic]

18. Looks nice to me. Maybe one where she's smiling, but she looks capable and determined in this pic

[IndianaGreen]

19. A lot of people can look "capable and detemined" in official photos

Take Uncle Joe Stalin for instance, the man did beat the Nazis afterall.

[Boz]

37. Is that a pantsuit?

[L0oniX]

118. Time for Weight Watchers. Them buttons about to explode. n/t

[kdpeters]

20. Hillary Jesus? Climb down off that cross. We need the wood.

:puke:

[libbygurl]

60. It's you nitwits who have put her there.

[Catherina]

21. It's very beautiful and effective but I still hate her.

If I were with the Hillary campaign I'd use it. That's how good it is.

Now would you please get back to serious business and do one for Obama?

[anonymous171]

22. Reminds me of that "Vote different" video

[peoli]

23. She looks like the new Judge Judy

[davidinalameda]

24. Judge Judy has scruples

...

[HopeforChange]

25. Santanic Looking

[Raejeanowl]

30. Santanic?

Is that like when Carlos gets up in the morning with the devil in him?

[L0oniX]

119. LOL

[Raejeanowl]

29. Other

I'm not certain how strongly positive, but it's not negative, either. I think I could live without the beaming halo effect. But it's visually strong and overall, I happen to like it.

[bobbert]

32. Is that a photo of her in the 90's?

[zulchzulu]

69. I'm not sure...I think it's from 2000 or later... n/t

[Butch350]

35. Hey Thanks...

I can give my dart board a break ;)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

36. I give you a 8.4 for production quality.

Depending on your message... I will reserve judgment. PM with your intent and I will elaborate.

[dysfunctional press]

40. round it out, and it would make a peachy dartboard.

nt

[libbygurl]

59. Question this: if that were BO's face in the pic, would that be fun as a dartboard, too?

Your violent misogynism is showing. Pathetic fools who resort to juvenile bullying. And you're supposed to be a Democrat? Get lost.

[dysfunctional press]

109. my feelings for hillary have nothing to do with misogyny.

she's a lying manipulative war-mongering dlc-dino disgrace, who also happens to be a woman.

and although your condescending racism is showing, i'll forgive you this time...:hi:

[k8conant]

41. What's with the Japanese-style orb?

[Traction311]

43. Reminds me of this:

[Indi Guy]

47. Precisely!, and worse than that...

...the op pic blends the religious with iconic "workers party" appeal.

:puke:

[L0oniX]

120. You are going to HELL for that.

:evilgrin:

[demwing]

49. Reminds me of this....

One of the antagonists from the movie V for Vendetta...

[Indi Guy]

50. Great catch...

Iconic, ain't it?

[TragedyandHope]

51. Bizzaro design

Not positive and not Presidential.

[datopbanana]

54. way too much resemblance to HRC. Will receive unfavorable response.

[cboy4]

58. What do you care? You're one of the usual

suspects, zulchzulu.

[Armstead]

62. Ki nd of looks like Kim Clinton Il

[npincus]

65. evokes "rising sun" flag of Japan

who won that war again?

[Marie26]

68. You tried to be neutral?

Why am I finding that hard to believe?

[zulchzulu]

73. I actually did

I thought her expression was a bit like Mona Lisa and the person looking for the poster liked the treatment in another poster...

[Buzz Clik]

71. It's free? Cool. And worth every penny.

[Kajsa]

74. Not good.

This is inflammatory at best.
It looks like something that would be posted in Freeperland.

This is a better background.

[Labors of Hercules]

75. damn. Have to change my shirt.

:puke:

[tammywammy]

77. It looks fine to me

:shrug:

Similar to that other poster someone referred to in another thread.

[Ian David]

79. Hillary Headroom???

[L0oniX]

80. Where's the fucking flag pin ...damn it all n/t

[lutefisk]

90. Looks like a cd cover for her new album. Well done...n/t

[Shae]

102. she looks younger and softer than irl nt

[aquarius dawning]

104. I like it except for the shadow on the left lip

which resembles a smudge. and. come to think of it, the grainy pixellation, while aristic, is unnecessary as she is drop dead gorgeous and requires no blurring to hide defects.

[EmilyAnne]

107. This was made by someone who just doesn't "get it". That font with that graphic style?

Ugh.

Regardless, its a nice photograph of Hillary Clinton. She looks very beautiful and warm, so I think it does show her in a positive light. The background is just a classic Chinese communist style.

[mkultra]

114. looks like communist propoganda

[Beacool]

116. You did a good job and used a nice picture.

I know that you despise Hillary, but it's well done. Thanks!!

[zulchzulu]

125. Thanks....

Yunno, I don't despise her really... I'm trying to get past all this crazy stress and this is a step for me...I suppose.

[Beacool]

128. You usually write horrible things about her.

Beyond political disagreements, I thought that you did despise her.

[zulchzulu]

130. Despise...no...

...pity....more like it.

She is a tragic figure in a very Shakespearian way. Presently she's doing a really good Lady MacBeth.

[Beacool]

131. I don't think so.

This campaign has been pretty mild compared to previous ones. If Hillary had really tried to knee capped him, she would have used harsher attacks. I don't get why you guys expect her to cosset Obama, she's his opponent not his supporter. He has thrown plenty of crap her way too. It's politics.

[NeedleCast]

126. I think it's good

although the background is strange. Reminds me of the Japanese flag.

[knight_of_the_star]

127. Looks to be directly inspired by similar Obama posters

Like this one:

[bluedawg12]

132. Looks like Evita Poster