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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:45 PM
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if the dem wins the Electoral College, but loses the popular vote
It could happen in a close election. They said it would happen to Gore in 2000, but it ended up happening to Bush.

The way it would work is our candidate wins the big midwest states in squeakers (Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, etc.), while Bush cleans house in the south.

I wouldn't like this scenario because it would be nice to have a mandate, though it would be funny to see the republicans try and say our president wasn't elected, etc.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:48 PM
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1. It would be funny to watch them squirm
IMHO, if a candidate wins the electoral college, he/she has won. But Bush* didn't. Florida was stolen.
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GBD4 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:48 PM
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2. well
the question is: do we still argue the electoral college is a bad idea?
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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:50 PM
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5. the tiny states would never change the system
They get more representation. Candidates would never visit the small states if the EC was abolished. They would just maximize turnout in the big states.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:33 PM
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14. Yes
Ever since the first time I learned what the Electoral College was and how it worked I thought it was stupid. '76 election and an eleven year old boy stumps his dad.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:49 PM
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3. I would laugh my ass off.
The funny way things would turn.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:49 PM
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4. The slime rPIGs would claim he/she were not elected
"according to the rules".
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zanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:50 PM
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6. Wow. I posted this in another thread.
Nice to know other people are as vindictive as I am. I think it would be fitting (and really, really funny).
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:52 PM
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7. My god..
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 12:56 PM by tedoll78
can you imagine the gloating? The bumperstickers on each side? The protests? The whining? The threats and violence coming from the Right? (I can certainly imagine that.)

I'd enjoy it. And the thing is, I am a very very vindictive bastard. I'd love to see Dean win the Gore states and Ohio - not a single southern state. And then, we bail-out the blue states in debt. See how the South likes the results of its continual stupid voting (and yes, I say this as a lifelong Southerner). Hehe!

Never mind. That's mean, and cruel, and it punishes good people for the stupidity of those who vote.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:55 PM
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8. A win is a win
No democrat has won a majority of the popular vote since 1976.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:07 PM
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9. I would want some bumper stickers
"Bush is a Loser - Get Over It"
"We Won - You Lost. Tough"

Like the "Sore Loserman" ones I saw in 2000.
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rapier Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:19 PM
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10. it's over
Then the GOP does what it said it would do in 2000. Sic the Mighty Wurletzer on how the Dems are stealing the election and going against the will of the people. They will flip some electors and Bush 'wins' again. If that fails just shoot the new winners and that's that.
There is no way in the world Bush doesn't stay. None. There is no alternative. It's a one party state now. It's over.
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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:26 PM
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11. Kind of like




” JAFO”

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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:27 PM
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12. Very interesting, but
what happens if 2000 repeats and the Democratic nominee wins the popular vote, but not the electoral college? Remember, the red states have gained votes in the EC. suppose their is another disputed state? Suppose, this time, the Dem wins the first count, but the state SC orders a recount, and this time, the USSC declines to intervene?

I'm saving my gloating till after the election, myself.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:28 PM
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13. No problem.
Enough of the Electoral College members vote for Bush
to give him the election.
They are not required (in many states) to vote as the
popular vote of their state dictates.

If that doesn't work, the traitors in the U.S. Supreme
Court declare that the Electoral College was not correct
and they need to do it again until they "get it right".

If the Republicans lose, there will be blood in the streets.
This was a big concern in 2000 and the "spontaneous"
"Brooks Brothers Riot" was a small sample of what may
happen when gun-toting right-wingers get very upset.


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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:44 PM
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15. Not going to happen
Seniors, military families, draft age adults, union members, the parents of children that are approaching draft age, Blacks, Latinos, and Women are going to turn out in order to slap that smirk off of that face.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:17 PM
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16. if you win the electorial college, you win. its simple.
I don't understand the question. Popular vote matters not.
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