Molly Ivins, One More Time: "I Will Not Support Hillary Clinton For President"

[Syrinx]

AUSTIN, Texas --- I'd like to make it clear to the people who run the Democratic Party that I will not support Hillary Clinton for president.

Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone This is not a Dick Morris election. Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her. Her failure to speak out on Terri Schiavo, not to mention that gross pandering on flag-burning, are just contemptible little dodges.

The recent death of Gene McCarthy reminded me of a lesson I spent a long, long time unlearning, so now I have to re-learn it. It's about political courage and heroes, and when a country is desperate for leadership. There are times when regular politics will not do, and this is one of those times. There are times a country is so tired of bull that only the truth can provide relief.

Do not sit there cowering and pretending the only way to win is as Republican-lite. If the Washington-based party can't get up and fight, we'll find someone who can.

Damn straight, Molly!

And we have found someone who can!



http://freepress.org/columns/display/1/2006/1304

[datopbanana]

1. word. and good BO pic

[Syrinx]

2. *plus* I love THIS picture of Molly

[Syrinx]

3. oops, forgot the link

http://freepress.org/columns/display/1/2006/1304

[UALRBSofL]

4. Yes, please drag Ivans up from the dead.

I love reading her anti-feminist views. She loathed Hillary and any woman that accomplished what she couldn't. Now, lets get to the truth of the matter with her skewed statements that are brought back from the dead.

[Syrinx]

5. what the hell are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

Molly Ivins was more of a feminist and more of a progressive than Hillary Clinton will ever be.

And everything she accomplished, she accomplished on her own. Without any wicked political machine at her back.

[UALRBSofL]

14. Oh please get real would ya ! ! ! !

She loved her some Bill Clinton, or what she called him once, "Big Dog", course he does have a smooth way of talking to the ladies. But she never liked Hillary or Ferraro or the ladies of the sort because she was jealous, bottom line.

[Syrinx]

16. I won't alert on you

Because your offensiveness is just too convoluted for my small brain to figure out.

Run with it, though. It works for you. :P

[yourguide]

17. Ferraro is a spiteful boil

on the face of the dem party.

You defend Ferraro?

[bvar22]

33. Oh Yes. Molly really hated Ann Richards......not!

I'll save you some time Googling.
Ann Richards was the Governor of Texas.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060915_molly_ivins_remembering_ann_richards/

Molly had an intense dislike of phonys.

[Erin Elizabeth]

34. Oh my GOD.

That has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have EVER read here, and that is saying a lot.

:rofl:

[JackBeck]

38. You left out Christine Todd Whitman and her tenure at the EPA.

Then again, any woman that criticizes another woman must be secretly jealous of them.

When you get a chance, pick-up an Ivins book and give yourself a full education on her views before posting such nonsense.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

7. HIllary a feminist? Trading his rampant adultery for political capitol?

she's only in the running because of her marriage to Bill.

And her marriage to Bill - now thats hardly a good example of a feminist woman.

There are far more qualified women who could run for president.

[PoliticalAmazon]

31. And Hillary paying off Paula Jones by pulling money from her own investment account? n/t

[rainbow4321]

49. You prefer how HRC tried to claim the late Ann Richards a supporter?

Til her sons came out and said "NOT SO FAST"

At least with this it is a past article written by the deceased giving her opinion. Not so with the HRC attempt to use Ann Richards.

[cboy4]

6. The problem with quoting dead people is we don't

know if they would have changed their minds.

It's true Molly obviously felt that way at the time.

But she's not around to analyze the behavior of both candidates .. their positions .. their mistakes.

Maybe she would feel differently now.

Who would have guessed Bill Richardson would change his mind?

[Syrinx]

8. fair enough, I guess

Though, I can't imagine anything that Hillary Clinton has done in the past fifteen months would have changed Molly's mind. If anything, I think Molly would be leading the charge against Senator Clinton even more emphatically.

As always, I could be wrong.

But I don't think so.

[newmajority]

45. Given the reasons Molly gave for not liking Hillary

I would say it's very unlikely that Hillary's recent sickening behavior would have changed Molly's mind in Hillary's favor.

[flpoljunkie]

9. Words as true today as when she wrote them in Janury, 2006.

[sellitman]

10. If Clinton wins this thing then you can bet your sweet ........

That Molly would of voted for her in the GE.

[Syrinx]

11. I have little doubt about that

Just like I will, if it comes to that.

If HRC is the nominee, I will vote for her, but it will be with a heavy, gravely disappointed heart.

[sellitman]

28. I'm with you on that.

We are looking good though.

[Benhurst]

12. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln also won't be supporting Clinton.

Being dead is such a drag.

[Syrinx]

13. that's sweet!

(And pointless and stupid.)

[Benhurst]

15. Thank you for your message of Hope and Unity.

[Syrinx]

18. I'm for Hope, Change, And Unity

That doesn't mean I must silently tolerate message board posts that mock great figures in the progressive movement.

[JohnnyLib2]

19. I wish we could know what she would actually say right now.

But we can't. So, her statement stays in the history file, along with the Founding Fathers' positions on slavery and so forth.

[Benhurst]

20. Exactly.

[Syrinx]

21. George Washington died 209 years ago

Molly Ivins died fifteen months ago.

Molly was aware of Obama, I assure you.

[Benhurst]

23. But she hasn't been around for this less than inspiring campaign,

and neither you, nor any of us, know how she would have reacted. My best guess would be that she would have had her own slant on the contest, and probably not a predictable one at that. That's what made her interesting, and distinguished her from those columnists marching lock-step after this candidate or that.

[Syrinx]

25. "I Will Not Support Hillary Clinton For President"

Her own words. Can't get much clearer than that.

[Benhurst]

26. Molly was a good writer and a straight-shooter.

Will-o'-wisp speeches filled with feel-good generalizations were no more her style than "people's movements" orchestrated from the top down.

I doubt she would be sitting on the sidelines sipping the Kool-Aid; but she would probably be taking potshots at both our remaining candidates, sipping her whiskey on the rocks, ready to march down to the polls to vote for whichever far less than perfect candidate manages to be dragged over the finish line by the unelected super delegates.

[midnight]

22. I loved Molly....Because she didn't care what was popular or

cow tow to those who tried to bully her. I see similiar traits from Hilliary. O ya, my sister who lives in Texas said Molly was kind of dishuffled and always drinking. That is why she was uncompfortable with her opinions. Those ladies from Texas are so coiffed. Those that aren't, are considered .less. some how.

[Why Syzygy]

47. Not in Austin. Molly lived in Austin

and coiffed just isn't the all important thing in Austin. I've never heard anyone comment on Molly's un-coiffedness.

[Stop Cornyn]

24. Molly was a Democrat

[olkaz]

27. Somebody needs to dig up Molly's thoughts on Obama specifically

Could somebody do that? It would go great with this article.

Anyway, Molly was a TRUE progressive voice. She knew what the Clintons represented.

Or maybe she was just a big sexist?

[bvar22]

39. Molly on Obama:

MOLLY IVINS SAID OBAMA HAD 'ELVIS TO HIM'

IVINS SAID THAT OBAMA 'SHOULD RUN'

IVINS SAID THAT OBAMA COULD USHER IN A 'NEW TIME'


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4813084

[indepat]

29. Molly will forever live in the hearts and minds of those of us privileged to have largely grasped

what she tried to get across to her readers. Molly, a true American :patriot:

[redqueen]

30. I wish she were still with us... she'd have loved/hated this primary.

*sigh*

[mod mom]

32. "Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation."

[Erin Elizabeth]

35. Amen. Hillary is still doing all that.

I loved Ivins. Always will.

[Erin Elizabeth]

36. I would have LOVED to have seen Ivins rip into

anyone who accused her of being sexist just because she didn't support Clinton. She'd have torn it up.

[Catherina]

37. RIP Molly. We heard you and we're with you! n/t

[Eurobabe]

40. go Molly! She speaks the truth.

[SeattleGirl]

41. Good golly, but I really Miss Molly!

She was my favorite columnist from the first day I discovered her, because she didn't care if she stepped on toes or not!

[Lugnut]

42. K&R for Molly n/t

[Political Heretic]

43. The "I won't support Clinton because she is conservative" argument doesn't do much for me.

Obama's policies and Clinton's policies are nearly identical. Obama is not some sort of radical progressive. If you want to be generous, then he is a center-left politician. It would probably be just as easy to simply call him a centrist. He may not be part of the cabal of the DLC, which is its own special kind of insanity, but he's not exactly a radical liberal.

That's ok though, I know exactly why I support Obama and believe he is the right choice for 2008. Thus I'm not uncomfortable acknowledging these truths.

[FrenchieCat]

44. Great photo of Molly!

Thanks for reminding us of her wonderful insight!

[Why Syzygy]

46. Don't you wish she were here to see Obama! Wow.

I know she would be impressed.

[invictus]

48. K & R

[saltpoint]

50. that darn Molly Ivins. If she had been a boy instead of girl, she'd be the

target of anti-male tirades on this very site for dissing a sister.

Turns out, she was advancing her progressive views of a given Democrat, and doig it damned well.

Some of the best political writing of my lifetime has been Molly Ivins on George W. Bush.

I miss Molly Ivins a whole bunch.

[azmouse]

51. Well said, Molly,

I miss her. :(