Lanny Davis says Repubs want to face Obama

[DangerDave921]

He does an opinion piece today saying that Republicans would love to face Obama instead of Hillary in November. He cites polling data showing Obama doing poorly among bread-and-butter Dems -- union workers, lower income earners, women, older voters, hispanics -- in the big key states. And he also points out that Obama has not been fully investigated until recently, and that this will only intensify between now and the GE in November.

What will the SD's do???

[Yossariant]

1. No shit, Sherlock. Of course they do.

[bowens43]

10. ROFLMAO!

You can't possibly be that naive. Republicans have been drooling over the prospect of Hillary ticket for years.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

54. Lanny Davis, "Good friend" of George Bush, - Los Angeles Times.

"Good friend" of George Bush, he wrote in the Los Angeles Times.
http://themarylandmoderate.blogspot.com/2005/01/true-confessions-democrat-likes-george.html

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

56. Lanny Davis, Either a "Hack" or "an utter moron" says Christopher Orr at The Plank.

Either a "Hack" or "an utter moron" says Christopher Orr at The Plank.
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/04/24/lanny-davis-redefines-undisputed.aspx

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

58. Davis is Joe Lieberman's BFF and treasurer of a pro-Lieberman PAC

Davis is Joe Lieberman's BFF and treasurer of a pro-Lieberman PAC
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.asp?strId=C00365262

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

59. Lanny Davis, Liberal blog basher, in his own words to the Wall Street Journal.

Liberal blog basher, in his own words to the Wall Street Journal.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008763

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

60. Lanny Davis, lobbyist for foreign governments -- Pakistan.

lobbyist for foreign governments -- Pakistan.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/21/lanny-davis-clinton-campa_n_97720.html

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

61. Lanny Davis, Ned Lamont basher, again, in his own words to the Hartford Courant

Ned Lamont basher, again, in his own words to the Hartford Courant
http://nedlamont.com/news/545/the-morning-after-the-debate-liebermans-debate-charge-that-lamont-is-a-closet-republican-dubious

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

64. Lanny Davis, Launched another unwarranted, ridiculous attack on Howard Dean.

Launched another unwarranted, ridiculous attack on Howard Dean.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/22/lanny-davis-howard-dean-s_n_98083.html

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

65. Lanny Davis, plays "gotcha" politics against Obama, but wrote a book decrying "gotcha" politics.

plays "gotcha" politics against Obama, but wrote a book decrying "gotcha" politics.
http://www.amazon.com/Scandal-Gotcha-Politics-Destroying-America/dp/1403974950

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

67. Lanny Davis' post had "laughable assertion" says Jake Tapper

Davis' post had "laughable assertion" by Jake Tapper
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/is-obama-mcgove.html

[BeyondGeography]

2. Turn to the broke candidate with the sky-high negatives and the abysmal trustworthy ratings

But of course.

[guyanakoolaid]

3. BS - They know their Hillary bandwagon scheme has been too exposed

and they're trying to create some cover.

[ingac70]

BINGO. n/t

[islandmkl]

4. we should have asked Lanny about all this a year ago...

would have saved us all a lot of money (and Hillary, too)...

what didn't he tell us when he discovered these facts?

damn...IT IS OVER!! Lanny has shown the way.

GMAFB

[City Lights]

5. Classic Rove...project truths about your candidate onto your opponent.

Not this time, Lanny!

[Stop Cornyn]

6. Clearly, they want to face Obama so badly that they are running anti-Obama ads during our NC primary

[Yossariant]

11. Yes. Obama hurts the down ticket. too:

“For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in his pew, listening to his pastor,” the ad says, segueing into video of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright shouting, “No, no, no. Not God Bless America. Goddamn America!”

The ad continues, “Now, Bev Perdue and Richard Moore endorse Barack Obama. They should know better. He’s just too extreme for North Carolina.”

[Bentcorner]

46. "They" aren't. It's the NC GOP that is running those ads. McCain's people want to run those ads

in September and October. They don't want to run them NOW.

[KaptBunnyPants]

76. You can't be dumb enough to believe that McCain can't stop these ads.

The Republican party is a top down organization. If McCain or his campaign truly opposed running these ads, they wouldn't run. McCain has been interfering in our primary to help Hillary. It's not hard to figure out why.

[Vinca]

7. Sometimes I want Hillary to get the nomination just to say

"I told you so" when she loses to McCain, but this is too important. Of course Lanny Davis is going to write an article like that - he's a Clinton shill.

[bowens43]

8. So you want them to base their decision

on an opinion piece that supposedly tells us what republicans want instead of the will of the people? Is that what you're implying?

Here's a clue, Hillary on the ticket is a republican wet dream. She has truckloads of baggage and the republicans have had years to hone their attacks. If hillary manages to steal the nomination we are going to see nothing but MOnica, Vince Foster, White Water, File-gate, travel-gate etc etc etc from now until November. They haven't scratched the surface of the Clinton's scandals.

[DangerDave921]

12. Not implying anything

I just thought it an interesting piece from a Clinton guy. And throwing it out there for debate. I'm curious who the Repub leaders think is the strongest Dem candidate and why.

[speedoo]

21. I can see you are relatively new here, so I'll take you at your word..

that you were not implying anything.

1. Obama will be the nominee. Hillary is finished.

2. There is really only one way the rethugs can attack Obama, and that is to make the election about race. But they are scared to death of doing that, because they cannot do it without generating wrath in the black community, the minority community in general, and the progressive community. That wrath, combined with the big increases in Democratic registrations will drive up Democratic turnout in November to such a degree that not only will McCain be defeated in a rout, but that Republicans all over the country will be defeated to the extent that big Democratic majorities will result in the Senate and House and many State legislatures will go Democratic as well.

The rethugs are scared to death of Obama because with him at the top of the dem ticket and in a bad year for rethugs in general, they are looking at a potential disaster.

On the other hand, the rethugs can attack Hillary in many ways that will not create anger among Democrats. I think they would tear her apart and have been dreaming of doing so for eight years or more.

That is why rethugs would much rather face Hillary. Lanny Davis is a Clinton shill and he is full of s--t.

[durrrty libby]

9. All the repubs have been saying BO would be much easier to take down

The repukes just have to unplug the teleprompter and Obama collapses

into a yammering fool

[scheming daemons]

47. Which is why they are going after Obama in ads and NOT Hillary?

Man.. you're dense.

[durrrty libby]

52. They go after BO, because they believe he will get the nom dumb-sack

[scheming daemons]

57. And what do THEY know that you don't? They aren't going to spend their money attacking

someone who won't be the nominee.


Even the Repukes know that Hillary has lost. Why can't you accept it?

[powergirl]

13. Wasn't Lanny shopping the Wright story over at Fox News

and expressed such disdain that it wasn't more damaging?

[high density]

14. The SDs will give us President Obama

Obama is getting more support of Democrats in the actual primaries in caucuses that count, even if the "polling data" Lanny Davis wants to use shows something different. It's just another talking point distraction from the Clinton team because they're still behind in the one "poll" that matters: delegates. There's not going to be a "do over" for all of the states Clinton lost simply because she thought erroneously last year she could ride the inevitability wagon onto the ballot. The election is in November, an eternity in political terms (look at what happened over the past six months), so the news media's polls have nothing but a slight entertainment value at this point. Maybe next Lanny can give us his predictions on who will win the World Series or where the stock market will close on November 4.

[Larkspur]

15. No, Repukes want to face Hillary. That's why they are colluding with her now

against Obama.

And last night at the local McDonald's parking lot saw a medium sized 4x4 truck with with 3 plywood signs on it. There were 2 4ft by 8 ft signs along each sides of the truck that read

Freedom is not Free – Abe Lincoln
Americans need a Strong President
Sen. John McCain is the Guy
McCain is Able

Is “McCain is Able” their new catchy slogan? Pretty lame, like their candidate.

The rear 4ft by 4ft plywood sign had the following

You’re not Lily White
Hillary
White Water Runs Deep
Madison Bank and Trust
Remember Vince Foster!

I saw no mention of Obama on this truck, but of course he had the standard Bush bumper sticker on the rear bumper of his truck.

[myrna minx]

23. Is that a riff on the Cain and Abel tale in the Old Testament?

:shrug:

[Larkspur]

31. I think so

Poorly done, but I think its a play on the Biblical Cain and Abel story.

[Kool Kitty]

39. They are using the "McCain is Able"

slogan because the original slogan, "McCain is Still Breathing", wouldn't fit on the sign.

[ananda]

16. I tell you what.

I don't why the GOP cares which candidate gets
the nomination.

Both Obama and Clinton have such serious negatives
now that the general election is going to be difficult for
either one of them.

That is so fucking depressing for me, in a year when this
election shoud be a cakewalk.

I feel as though the media and the propaganda machines
have a stranglehold on the havelesses who will be voting
once again against their own best interests. But they are
the ones who fall prey to propaganda, disinformation, lies,
swiftboating, and partisan rancor.

Despair is my middle name now.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. I lost all hope when the corprat media ran off Edwards. The one candidate who polled nationally to

beat any republican nominee. Get rid of the one candidate who could win, in favor of two who will probably won't. Brilliant! Played again! :banghead:

[olkaz]

17. We're supposed to take Lanny Davis seriously?

What attack ads are being used BY REPUBLICANS in North Carolina?

Who are they against?

....

[MattBaggins]

69. They are now playing six degrees

with Wright. Playing ads against local politicians that have endorsed Obama by playing Reverend Wright ads and making guilt by association association.

We should be able to paint Kevin Bacon as an "angry black man" by the end of the month.

[marylanddem]

18. Bull-freaking-shiit!

[my3boyz]

19. Let's see.....if Republicans want to face Obama why are they trying to do everything they can

to keep him from being the nominee. They even leaked the Wright material early to knock him out. They could have held on to that and released it in October. However, no they wanted to release it during the democratic primary. Makes since if they want Hillary as the nominee.

[Bentcorner]

49. They didn't leak the Wrigh stuff. That stuff was on the church's own website.

[BzaDem]

20. Why is everyone on DU so blind

Of COURSE they want to go against Obama. When they say they have been wanting to run against Hillary, you really actually believe them???

He is the most swiftboatable candidate in history. It is so frusturating to see that it will take until November 4th until most people on DU find this out. Hillary has her electability problems, but they are NOTHING compared to Obama's.

[RBInMaine]

25. GET REAL ! If we nominate Hillary we'll be able to hear the R's pop the corks off the bottles.

The R's VISCERALLY DESPISE Hillary Clinton (and Bill too). She is the most polarizing figure in national politics. Their party is still pretty subdued right now, bearing for a loss. Wait until they get to run against Hillary (if that happens). They'll be dancing in the streets because it will be exactly what they need to energize their party BIGTIME. And make no mistake, SniperGate, TravelGate, FosterGate, WhitewaterGate, VastRightWingConspiracyGate, CookiesGate, her 1960-'s-70's political actitivities, every other time she has stretched the truth, Norman Hsu, MonicaGate, and on and on and on and on are going to be marched right back home to her and blasted all over FauxNews and the rest of the corporate media incessently. And Rush, Hannity, Rove, and every other member of their ilk are going to make it their life's work to remind their R listeners to staff the campaign offices, work the ground, and DONATE to defeat her. She turns off INDEPENDENTS as well, which is the scariest thing. She has the highest negatives in the history of presidential campaign politics. The day she is nominated, her current corporate media honeymoon is OVER and the R's will jump for joy shouting MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

[Liberal Gramma]

73. Obama has a shot at winning

Hillary does not. First, she's not going to be the candidate. Second, she doesn't bring in new voters and energize the Democratic base. Third, if the SD's pick her over Obama, when she's in second place, we can kiss off the AA vote. There is not a second-tier group to replace this large segment of the Democratic party. The Independents won't vote for her, they'll go to McCain. She is NOT more electable.

[RBInMaine]

22. SPIN SPIN SPIN trying to compare the primaries to the GE. Team-Hillary = THE SPIN DOCTORS.

[Mist]

24. Well, if Lanny "DLC/Hillbot" Davis says it, it must be so! nt

[zulchzulu]

26. Lanny Davis is two-bit Hillary shill who is pulling this shit out of his ass

Obama has gotten the support of many unions, won states like Iowa where there are older voters and low income workers and even did well in Texas with the Hispanic community. The 30 states he has won cover all the bases demographically.

Davis is paid to pimp Hillary. He has to lie. He knows the RNC would LOVE to have 2 Clintons to run against...it's a flag burning/gay marriage/gun control/anti-prayer amendment on steroids...

[Larkspur]

32. Davis is doing for Hillary what he did for Lieberman in 2006

He's a rabid pit bull who bullies everyone.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

27. Lanny Davis, the Hillary backer?

:rofl:

[book_worm]

28. Lanny Davis? Don't make me laugh

:rofl:

[Beacool]

29. He's right!!

The Republicans were initially salivating at the prospect of a Hillary nomination, but not anymore. They now would prefer to confront Obama due to everything that has come out about him in the last few weeks.

As a Sr. US Representative told me 2 weeks ago: Obama is not electable.

[DangerDave921]

35. Agreed

It does not matter that the right hates Hillary. Of course they do. And yes, they would love to wallop the living daylights out of her. But that's not the issue. The question is who would the Repubs rather face -- and I think the answer is Obama.

While Hillary has a lot of negatives, she is a known commodity. She has name recognition, and some claim to the good days of the '90's. Voters will see that as experience. And she talks tougher on foreign policy, which may count in the GE.

The right will paint Obama as young, inexperienced, with no foreign affairs experience. And yes, they will saddle him with Wright and Ayres. And the quiet factor, unspoken in the background, is their belief that some percentage of folks will not vote for a black man no matter what. So they'll have a leg up already that won't be offset by higher numbers of black voters and young voters.

Of course even Repubs may disagree on this question so there's no right answer.

[Beacool]

80. I heard Paul Begala yesterday on the radio.

He more or less voiced your sentiments.

[MattBaggins]

78. Name please?

Link? Anything to back that up?

[Beacool]

79. Nope, private conversation.

Hint, he's from the Northeast and was elected in 1992.

[MattBaggins]

83. Well forgive me then.

I am sorry but I will have to file that bit of info in the same spot I file posts from Tellurian.

[Colobo]

33. Lanny Davis is a blowhard.

[Aloha Spirit]

38. +1

[SparkyMac]

34. That has been my opinion all along

It's quite true that the Right hates Hillary Clinton. They've hated her since 1992. They have attacked her with everything they can imagine. But you know what ? They lost every battle with the Clintons. They lost in 1992, 1994 (Whitewater) 1996, 1998(Impeachment) 2000 and 2006. They are scared shitless of that woman.

They want somebody who they have not smeared with their Noise Machine -- so people will believe them. And Obama fits that bill.

[Mass]

36. If Lanny Davis says it, it must be true?

:sarcasm:

[anonymous171]

37. Meanwhile, republicans want to face Hillary

[TexasObserver]

40. If Lanny Davis is on TV, he's there to LIE about something.

He's Baghdad Bob, Clinton brand.

[Medusa]

41. Let's see, all the GOP shills on my television seem to just love ole'

Hillary. Why? Because they know they can beat her come November, no problem whatsoever.

[Cha]

42. lanny davis the clinton bullshitter?

That lanny davis? tool.

[CakeGrrl]

43. Wow, reverse psychology from Camp Clinton. Whoda thunk it? n/t

[newmajority]

44. Lanny Davis is a serial liar, just like his employers

Can't wait until we're rid of all of them for good.

[burythehatchet]

45. Limbaugh and Fox's support for Hilldog is a devious ploy. Reverse psychology, they call it.

[SoCalDem]

48. Lanny Davis is a P.O. S. and I doubt whether that many SDs care WHAT he thinks

He knows that if the Clintons get back in the WH, he will be getting his seat back on the Goodie Train..

[Yurovsky]

50. LANNY DAVIS??? Are you fucking kidding me????

Why not just ask WJC and see what he thinks? No, screw that, just ask HRC. She knows EVERYTHING! (Just ask her!)

[SemiCharmedQuark]

51. I guess the real question is: Who does Bill Clinton think is the best candidate against McCain?

[MadHound]

53. Really Lanny, tell me this then

Why are all the 'Pugs like Murdoch, Scaife, Rush, Coulter, etc. etc. lining up behind Hillary?

Oh, yeah, they'd much rather face Hillary in the GE, because they know that the Clinton name will turn out the vote for McCain in record numbers.

Another idiot Clinton surrogate trying to spin, spin, spin the truth:eyes:

[BlooInBloo]

55. More Clinton supporter lies. And they're such OBVIOUS lies.

[zam]

62. I believe it when the media starts attacking Hillary Clinton. eom.

[Lord Helmet]

63. ha, ha,, that's why Limbaugh hsa been begging republicans to vote for Hillary

Lanny is an idiot

[BlueIdaho]

66. Lanny has his head so far up the Clinton's asses

I'm surprised anyone can hear a single word he says.

[cliffordu]

68. I don't give a shit what these scumbags say.

And neither will the SD's.

Stop being such a baby.

[SoonerPride]

70. Then they are going to get their wish.

Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

[jenmito]

71. Right-that's why they're doing their best to knock him out of the race in NC!

:rofl:

[mzmolly]

72. This "problem" is easily solved by the right VP choice.

Kos has a good analysis on the Clinton can best beat McCain talking point here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/24/113851/565/912/502497

[jackson_dem]

74. They do. Here is what the rethug focus groups are showing about Obama

-snip-

Also, Republican pollster Whit Ayres told me that four focus groups he's conducted among blue-collar whites in Michigan and Missouri show "they are open to voting for Hillary Clinton, but there's no way in hell they are going for Obama. It's cultural.

"They just don't think he's a patriotic American. It's the flag pin, his church, his wife's statement that most Americans are 'mean.' As one woman said in one of these groups, 'I don't think he bleeds red, white and blue.'"

Ayres also polled Tennessee -- a GOP-leaning state -- for Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) and found that Clinton would lose to McCain by 8 points, but that Obama would lose by 20 points. Twenty-five percent of Democrats said they would not vote for Obama.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/obama_is_wounded_but_clinton_m.html

[KaptBunnyPants]

75. Which would explain why the Republican Party is supporting Hillary's primary campaign.

They just feel so bad about beating us, that they want to make sure we run the strongest candidate. It all makes perfect sense.

[TheZug]

77. It's like UGA saying that Ohio State would love to face LSU.

Evaluate accordingly.

[goletian]

81. its bullshit

check any forum dominated by conservatives and youll see unequivocal support for clinton and complete hatred for obama. sure enough, if this is the new talking point being pushed for the repub morons, they will start to parrot it before the week is through. its a lie, though.

[RamboLiberal]

82. Lanny Davis is another of the Hillary whining lying shills

that have me screaming at the TV whenever he's on. Can't stand the jerk!