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Fri Apr-25-08 10:10 AM
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Indy Star Poll: Obama 41, Clinton 38.....Obama beating McCain 49 % to 41% |
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Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 10:12 AM by TeamJordan23
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:10 AM
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1. 21% undecided is a HUGE amount..... |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:12 AM
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3. Ya Obama is going to have to really work for those undecideds |
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Last time they broke for Clinton so Obama has to work on their needs and fears for this cycle.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:30 AM
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18. Saw another poll where it was 19% undecided, so I think this 21% |
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is accurate, and that should be interesting.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:12 AM
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2. I predict Indiana will be the knockout blow |
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Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 10:15 AM by SoonerPride
She will lose two large states and her campaign will collapse.
All the superdelegates will declare Obama the nominee and that will be that.
Hillary will not admit defeat, but she will not have the money to go on, the press will ignore her like they did Huckabee, and the party will finally acknowledge Obama as the presumptive nominee.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:13 AM
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4. That is IF we continue to work HARD |
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Clinton is not just going to sit down and let her Campaign be defeated May 6th so we must work HARD for Victory! Also please phonebank!! http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:14 AM
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5. Amen, but Obama will be covered in slime before that happens...Sigh!! |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:17 AM
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8. I think Clinton is going to back off the negitives. They do not work as well in these 2 states |
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PA was PERFECT for negative ads major parts of the populace easily feared and of course hidden factors going into the polls.
Indiana and North Carolina is going to resonate ALOT less with such crap and Clinton will likely just stick with the usual call for debate, her need for money, and why she is better arguments.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:26 AM
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15. True, to an extent. But now Obama has the Clintons, Rethugs and MSM to contend with. |
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Besides I doubt if Hillary will back off from the negative slant. She is like a bulldozer and has sensed that Obama is uncomfortable throwing similar crap at her. Though god knows there is so much more to throw on her.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:49 AM
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24. Yep, he is now facing his biggest headwind... |
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Because is is closer to sealing the deal then ever.
There is no place left for Hillary to move the goalposts and minus a major unexpected scandal - Obama can slam the door shut May 6th. But he and his folks need to be on the radar 24/7 because yes, Bill & Hillary, the rethug machine, and the MSM don't want this thing to end.
Incoming BS will be fired at him hourly.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:51 AM
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25. Obama is long term. he understands the the longer this goes on the weaker Clinton is |
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No need to throw anything more then elbowing back so he does not appear weak. Other than that he is doing things good.
Hes campaigning and putting Indiana at play. So even if Clinton wins it will be limited.
People donated expecting a Clinton comeback. When North Carolina erases all gains she has made in the past month she is MUCH less likely to get the amount of donations she got after PA.
Meanwhile Obama continues to get new donors and more donations while getting more support.
This may not be over by the 6th (Extreme unlikely if we work hard for an Obama victory in Indiana) but the chances of Clinton Campaign lasting till the end of June is unlikely.
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Fri Apr-25-08 02:15 PM
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26. Agreed, June looks remote. Best thing I heard was the anti-swiftboating group Obama set up. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:19 AM
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11. Eh. At this point, I'm fairly certainly that most remaining SDs are waiting until primaries are over |
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If they haven't declared by now, they aren't likely to declare until after Montana and South Dakota. I agree that May 6 will probably be a banner day for Obama, but I don't think it will bring in enough SDs to his side to end the contest. I do think that we'll have a nominee well before the convention in August, though.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:22 AM
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14. I disagree....if Obama wins both they will probably be crush each other.... |
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..in the stampede to be first to jump on the Obama bandwagon...
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:31 AM
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20. See, the thing with that is, it politically benefits the SDs to remain neutral as long as possible |
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As SDs break for either candidate, making the pool of neutral ones smaller and smaller, the votes of those that remain become more and more valuable to either candidate. It's a bit of a fine line -- wait too long, and you miss the train. The candidate gets all the delegates he/she needs, and they don't need you anymore. But if you're one of the last ones on the train, you get to be the next ambassador to Lichtenstein or what have you.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:21 AM
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13. He simply HAS to win there for the KO I agree.... |
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...she might try and limp on if she eeks out a win there, but the delegate math will be harder and harder to ignore...
If it's a split decision it will be over but she will whine and complain about it...
If she loses BOTH NC and IN on the same day Obama will have punched her lights out cleanly and she will have no choice but to slither her way back into that dark place from whence she came, never to be heard from again....
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:15 AM
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6. Still lots of undecideds and too early but so far things are looking better for Obama |
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Let PLEASE let us continue to work HARD for VICTORY in may! http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:16 AM
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Thats fantastic for the GE!! Looks like Indiana is in play. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:18 AM
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9. It is in play if this Race ends near May 6th and not drug out to the convention. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:16 AM
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7. Thats fantastic for the GE!! Looks like Indiana is in play. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:18 AM
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10. It's that general election number I just don't believe. |
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Bush won Indiana by 20 points. I doubt the situation has reversed 28 points in four years.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:21 AM
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12. Well Bush has fucked up a bit, and for Obama, it helps that NW IN in in the CHicago media market |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:28 AM
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17. I am willing to bet $100 that unless Obama is already winning by 8 points or more nationwide |
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that he does not win Indiana.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:30 AM
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19. We won alot of seats in 2006 there. |
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It's probably the best evidence of the 50-state strategy working.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:33 AM
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21. Enough to erase a 14-point registration advantage among Republicans |
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and a 20 point spread in votes? I very much doubt it.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:41 AM
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22. There are other factors, I'm sure. |
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being a stone's throw away from the border, I can say there's been some tough times around here lately.
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:43 AM
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23. All I'll say is that if we win Indiana, it will be in the context of a 420 EV win, not |
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Fri Apr-25-08 10:26 AM
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16. And Just Like That! We *Heart* the Indy Star Again! |
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