most of the progressive women I know (famous and friends) are for Obama. what does that say?

[BklynChick]

[scheming daemons]

1. Women who are comfortable with their own success don't vote based on gender?

...but instead, vote for the best candidate?

[OzarkDem]

29. True, some vote for the better candidate

and all of my women friends are voting for Clinton.

They don't trust the current top-tier of male Dem leadership to do the hard work of getting out of Iraq, fixing the economy and getting health care reform. We've seen them waffle and compromise too often, backing policies that hurt women and all Americans.

[uberblonde]

2. How about this?

Your friends aren't all that diverse.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. My Socialist wife certainly is.

[splat]

4. You know young women who aren't even near the glass ceiling yet

Young women can fill middle and lower rungs with ease. It's when there's real power involved that the boys club closes ranks. "If only she were perfect..."

[Independent-Voter]

6. Just like Hillary, you're always looking to play the victim card. Pathetic

[splat]

17. Know any women who've broken through to the presidency yet?

Are you always playing cards? Is life a game? Or is this just an official talking point?

[PVnRT]

26. Do you know any black men that have?

Sorry, that argument doesn't work this election.

[nomorewhopper]

20. pathetic

[SemiCharmedQuark]

22. My mom is also for Obama and she turns fifty this year.

She's the toughest person I know. She is a vice president in her company. Her boss, also an Obama supporter, knows first hand about glass ceilings. She sued her prior employer for sexual discrimination and is now the owner of her own company.

[FrenchieCat]

5. They are smart, intelligent and know who has their best interest at heart?

[ampad]

7. They are not fake feminist (nt)

[TragedyandHope]

8. It says that they agree with most Democratic voters

[unpossibles]

9. I know a lot of people for both

but I know lightly more Obama supporters.

[PBS Poll-435]

10. That you associate yourself with people that have similar personalities...?

It is the same ol' "I don't know ANYONE who voted for Hillary in Pennsylvania..." routine.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

11. it says SHEEP

[powergirl]

12. I'm a real feminist, over 40 years old, working professional woman

and I support Obama because he is awesome and more importantly, he has the BEST CHANCE TO WIN THE GE. I want a Democratic president.

Also, Hillary Clinton makes women look bad. She reinforces those bad stereotypes. She is successful because of her husband, she cries in public, she complains about everything, she didn't divorce her husband, etc. etc.. Most of us women know that you have to be tougher than and work harder than men to get ahead. We get that. We don't think that she does.

[splat]

18. You don't think she's tough and hard-working? I don't believe anything you write here

Oh, maybe that you think Obama is "awesome" (swoon)

[CatsDogsBabies]

19. I am over 40 (under 50) working professional

woman as well, and I have the same problems with her - the crying in public because she wants to be president really disturbs me. I didn't see her campaign ad about not being able to stand the heat in the kitchen, but anyone who cries in public because she wants to be president is the one who can't stand the heat in the kitchen. I also have a pretty negative reaction to her ready on day one thing. I think it is obvious she isn't ready - she wasn't even prepared for her own campaign. The fact that her husband was president in itself doesn't bother me, but it does bother me that she is completely dependent upon her husband to be in the position she is in now. I really can't make judgments about people's motivations for staying married, but it is a certainty that she wouldn't even be in this race if she had divorced WJC.

[splat]

21. She might have gone farther faster without the detour to Arkansas

What's with the macho emphasis on crying in public? That's culturally learned -- by men.

[CatsDogsBabies]

23. It is not the crying itself

but it seemed to me she was crying because she wants to be president, and she is afraid she will lose. If she had cried out of empathy for another person's situation that would have been different to me, but as I saw it she was crying because she's not getting her way. This to me is an issue of character and maturity not a macho thing.

[splat]

24. Crying matters more than universal health care?

You must be very well off indeed if you're not focused on the issues.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

25. Neither Hillary nor Obama are offering true Universal Healthcare.

[CatsDogsBabies]

27. I am reasonably well off . . .

I come from a working class SW PA family - my father (a child of immigrants who came to the US with NOTHING) starting in the mill several years before he graduated from high school. It was still possible for my father's generation to get ahead on a working class salary, to support their kids and to give them an education. My parents worked hard and sacrificed a lot so that their children could do a little better than they did, and we (their children) are all better off economically than my parents were. Sadly, it seems that this is not possible for the working class anymore, but that doesn't mean the working class doesn't want this possibility. I support the "American Dream," and Barack Obama.

[powergirl]

37. Agreed, the crying is all about HER not humanity

The campaign is all about HER. The presidency is all about HER. Crying is a natural human reaction. Every emotional outburst that she has in front of a tv camera is calculated to advance HER interests - not the American women.

[OzarkDem]

30. Welcome to DU

:eyes:

[shayes51]

13. It says you don't know me and my friends.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. How many famous progressive women do you personally know?

And who are they, if I might ask?

Just curious, nothing else.

[PassingFair]

15. They aren't voting for Hillary just to piss off...

their macho husbands.

Really, I know some stupid, belligerent
women who are going to vote for Hillary
just to piss their equally stupid, belligerent,
uninformed husbands.

:crazy:

[olkaz]

16. OMG, all your female friends are sexist!

I have the exact same situation. From my Mom, who taught me about liberalism, to my friends (including a feminist grad student), to my wife.

All of them want a female for president. All of them.

Just not Hillary.

[OzarkDem]

28. All of the ones I know (including my AA women friends)

are backing Hillary. :shrug:

[rinsd]

31. That many people are unaware that Obama is actually a centrist?

:shrug:

[cbayer]

32. It's says that you have surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

That was easy.

[mainer]

33. 90% of the ones I know are for Obama

It all depends on your circle of friends.

[Schema Thing]

34. That even successful women are slaves to a good-looking man's charm?

:runs like hell:


:p~

[knight_of_the_star]

35. That you don't know any progressive people who are pro-Clinton

Anecdotal evidence only proves the individual's experience.

[redqueen]

36. Dunno... I know exactly one woman that *did* support Clinton, but she switched.

She's politically-minded, but doesn't stay up on the news.

She wishes now that she'd paid more attention, so that she wouldn't have voted for Clinton in the primaries.

[smalll]

38. That you're a latte liberal, "BklynChick" --

Where do you live exactly? Park Slope? Williamsburg? "BoCoCa"?

[Mushroom]

39. It strikes me

as a viva viagra/abortifacient situation where men are trusted not to need any supervision and women are scrutinized for their lack of moral judgment and sanity. For the good of the country.

[DemGa]

40. Most of the politically astute women I know are for Clinton