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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:14 PM
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McGovern warns against the same party infighting that sunk him, and implicitly rebukes Hillary
George McGovern: Still Backing Clinton, But Going Way Off Script

Former senator and Democratic presidential aspirant George McGovern says he sees some striking similarities when it comes to his run at the White House and that of Sen. Barack Obama. But ultimately, McGovern argues, Obama has organized a much wider political coalition and thus a greater chance of electoral success.

"I think that is his strength," McGovern told The Huffington Post. "He has very broad appeal. He certainly is going to galvanize the black vote. But he has strong appeal to voters of all kinds. Some of the old buckaroos out here in South Dakota are for him."

In recent days, following Obama's loss in the Pennsylvania primary, concern has been raised in Democratic circles that the Illinois Democrat could not expand his political base beyond African-Americans and college students -- a limitation that stunted McGovern's candidacy.

But McGovern, who lost the 1972 election to incumbent Richard Nixon by landslide margins, doesn't attribute his defeat to merely the contours of his political base. Indeed, he argues that his candidacy was damaged more by the infighting that occurred within the Democratic Party even after he had secured the nomination.

"After I had the nomination won and everything except the crowning at the convention, the other candidates that I had defeated in the primaries and the caucuses ganged up on me and spent the next month just bad mouthing me around the country," he said. "And, of course the Nixon people used some of the quotes and threw them back at me in the general election."

It is in this regard -- not necessarily his general election defeat -- that McGovern worries history could end up repeating itself. Noting that Obama seems poised to be the eventually nominee, though believing Sen. Hillary Clinton should stay in the race, he called for a more civil discourse between the two candidates.

"That is the one minus," he said. "I think there has been a little too much negative backbiting. And that is the one negative that concerns me because it is what happened to me in '72...I had to go into that convention exhausted, instead of spending the last few months carefully and systematically picking a running mate and getting my convention organized. We can't have that again."

This, however, is not the only similarity McGovern draws between his run for the White House and the current process. In '72, after he won the California primary and clinched the nomination, McGovern's Democratic opponents argued that the delegation should have been rewarded on a proportional basis, rather than winner-take-all. It was, McGovern says, a changing of the rules in mid-game that resulted both in the weakening of his campaign and his limping into the convention. Thirty-six years later, he sees parallels with the Clinton campaign's push to count the results of the non-DNC-sanctioned Florida and Michigan primaries.

"We can't overturn those rules now that the counting is over," he said. "I think Barack didn't even enter one contest . Those states knew what the rules were, all the candidates knew what the rules were, and to change it now I think is wrong."

It's not the only process issue on which McGovern, who has endorsed Clinton, finds himself at varying odds with the New York Democrat. On the topic of superdelegates, which were created as a concession to the primary reforms that McGovern initiated, the South Dakotan argues that these party insiders must take into strong consideration the pledged delegate tally...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/25/george-mcgovern-still-bac_n_98599.html
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:14 PM
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1. K&R
:kick:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:15 PM
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2. Good for George McGovern
A very decent man. :thumbsup:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:17 PM
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3. I didn't know he supported Hillary.
He must have been a bit offended after hearing Hillary's latest attacks.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:01 PM
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11. I think he endorsed her pretty early on
Maybe having some regrets?
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:19 PM
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4. kick and a quote:
"...It is as if Hillary Clinton is engaged in a toxic transmission onto Barack Obama of every outrageous insult and accusation ever inflicted on her by the American right over the decades. She is running against what she might have become. Too much politics dries the soul of the idealist."

Tom Hayden
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:10 PM
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14. Nailed it on the head. eom
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:20 PM
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5. "Okay George, its time for me to throw you under....."

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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:29 PM
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6. I'm curious. I don't recall having seen this info before so I'm going to ask it now
what was the voter turn out in both FL and MI? was it normal, low or off the charts as we've seen in every other state?

I've heard that many stayed home in those states because of the rules violation. If that is true, how can Hillary claim 'the will of the people'?

just curious.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:34 PM
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8. Much lower than Republican.
Most came out to vote for or against a tax amendment.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:30 PM
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7. I have great respect for George McGovern. I don't know
that limping into the convention should be disallowed.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:35 PM
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9. McGovern lost 49 states because his appeal was limited to youth, affluent Dems, and blacks
That isn't enough to get to 50%+1. Party infighting cost Humphrey but McGovern would have lost under any scenario.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:06 PM
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12. I'll take the man's word over yours.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:40 PM
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10. All his points
are valid, but he still would have lost anyway. I remember very well those Republican ads, showing all of our defense missiles disappearing under a McGovern presidency. They played the fear card as usual, and won.

I often think that that was the beginning of the end for this country. When I think of where we might be as a nation if McGovern had been elected, and been able to activate his program for change. Sigh.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:10 PM
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13. K&R. eom
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