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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:43 PM
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I don't get the superdelegates.
You'd think that they'd all be coming forward by now.

Regardless of who they support, Clinton or Obama, it doesn't help either to drag this thing on too long.

I can see reluctance from super-D's in states that haven't voted yet, sure. But those in the other 43 states? I don't get it.

The only thing that really makes sense to me is a presidential version of Dean's 50 state strategy.

Places like NC and Oregon... these places haven't been important in the primary process in years. Hell, here in the PNW, thanks to the time zones we haven't been important in the GE election either.

But now everybody's excited. New democratic registrations are skyrocketing, and it ain't just republican disruptors. People are legitimately switching to the democratic party, and this is the perfect climate to be doing it in.

So in a few more weeks, the states will be done voting, the frontrunner will have a clear mandate, and then the super-d's can unite behind the winner and push him or her over 2025.

That's the only reason that makes sense to me, at least.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:45 PM
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1. Read my thread on this
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:50 PM
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5. thanks for that
I hadn't seen it. Breath of fresh air and sanity in an otherwise fucked up spin cycle. :hi:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:53 PM
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7. you're welcome
:hi:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:46 PM
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2. One point, which someone made here yesterday...
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 01:52 PM by ClassWarrior
...is the fact that many undecided SDs are freshmen Congresspeople who won by small margins against the Rape-Publicans in 2006, and who'd risk splitting their Dem support by coming out too soon for one or the other. And if that happened, they'd be handing their newly-won districts right back to the criminals.

So it's not always so simple. :shrug:

NGU.


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:53 PM
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8. Well, maybe some of them are.
But most of the remaining SDs are high ranking DNC members, not freshmen reps.

And among congressmen, you've got lots of top people. Pelosi, Reid, Byrd... not to mention Al Gore.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:47 PM
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3. They are waiting
To make sure Obama will be the winner in May. If they jump on his boat to soon, and Hillary does by some "miracle" get the nomination, they know they are dead meat because the Clintons will make sure of that!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:48 PM
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4. here's my take on it. I think Obama has enough SD support
to hit 2024 now, but that those SDs believe that endorsing him now, after Hilly's win in PA and with NC and IN coming up shortly, would further alienate significant numbers of her supporters. I think you're right that at the end of the voting process, most of the remaining SD will endorse. I'm quite sure they'll be endorsing Obama.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:51 PM
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6. I think they want to boot Hillary, but think after a "big" victory
is a bad time to do so. They hope Obama sweeps on May 6th and they can end it then.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:20 PM
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11. What was so BIG about it, she got a few measley delegates
and the math doesn't add up for Ms. Thang. She's out. No matter what.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwd88C25J-0
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:56 PM
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9. Why walk into a knife fight?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:57 PM
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10. They are fearful, either of the Clinton surrogates, or of their constituents
They are afraid to make a mistake. Look at how Carville viciously attacked Richardson.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:08 PM
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12. The Superdelegates are not difficult to figure out
Nearly 100 of them will probably endorse on May 20

And seriously, for the media's sake, the DNC would probably like to see most of the rest endorse before the last primary is held so that it will appear that the PEOPLE finally chose one candidate over the other and not just a few superdelegates.

It'd be better not to have to put a spotlight on a few people as we're counting the last few delegates to reach 2,024. And don't think the Supers haven't already thought of that. I'm sure not too many of them want the spotlight of the entire nation to be on them when it gets down to the last few delegates that either candidate needs. They won't want the hate mail and vilification that would come from either side when they make their choice; they won't want the pressure that would be placed upon them.

So, once Obama gains more than 50% of the pledged delegates, you're gonna see not just a trickle but a landslide as they fall all over themselves to ensure that they're not out there alone ready for the media to pounce on them and say, "Here's is one of the LAST Superdelegates, who will he/she vote for?"
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