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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:57 PM
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Do you agree with Hillary's attempt to portray Obama as having ties to terrorists?
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 02:02 PM by ProSense
Do you believe it's fair for Hillary to question Obama's patriotism?

Can you defend her acceptance of Richard Scaife?



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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:01 PM
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1. No on both (all) counts. It's why I've turned decidedly against her
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 02:02 PM by LSparkle
She's decided to demonize Obama unfairly instead of talking up her
own strengths, then has even cozied up to Scaife and Fixed Noize
toward that end. She hasn't run a campaign worthy of the nomination
(IMHO).
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:03 PM
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2. She gives new meaning to McCarthyism
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:11 PM
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6. Even McCarthy might have been embarrassed by their tactics.
Joe just had a delusional hard-on for Communists. Not excusing him at all, but at least he only manufactured ONE reason to hate people. Camp Hillary's kitchen sink makes him look like an amateur.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:06 PM
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3. Are you saying that Ayers and his wife are terrorists?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:08 PM
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5. Reading comprehension question: Where did I say that? n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:13 PM
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7. "...Obama as having ties to terrorists?"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:16 PM
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8. "Hillary's attempt to portray Obama as having ties to terrorists"
Get it?

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:20 PM
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9. Which terrorists?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:21 PM
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10. The ones in Hillary's mind, you know, like the snipers. n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 02:21 PM by ProSense
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:01 PM
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13. that would be the weather underground people
that clinton pardoned at the end of his term.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:07 PM
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4. one should scrutinize Hillary's funds and organizations that are linked to terorrists
Her relationship with terrorists began in the mid-1980s when she served on the Board of the New World Foundation, which gave funds to the Palestine Liberation Organization, at a time when the PLO was officially recognized by the US government as a terrorist organization

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351760,00.html
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:35 PM
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11. "Fair is Fair." n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:42 PM
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12. No defense for Hillary, is there? n/t


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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:30 PM
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14. yes
bill from ct
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:32 PM
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15. Why? n/t
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:19 PM
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17. why?
the premise is ridiculous

who in their right mind would call Obama a terrorist?

this just politics,people have to get a grip

bill from ct
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:05 PM
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18. "who in their right mind would call Obama a terrorist? this just politics,people have to get a grip"
Is that what accusing people of being linked to terrorist is called these days?

Get a grip, that's Republican despicable BS!


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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:40 PM
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16. Questioning Obama's patriotism is total bullshit. The Scaife thing is also bullshit, but pragmatic
bullshit. I promise you that Senator Obama is also going to have to make nice with with some people you don't have on speed dial before this is all over.
But having said that, I do agree with the central tenet of one of your posts. (Yeah, I never thought it would happen either.)
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:09 PM
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19. Clinton says she was unaware of the Pardons but in her 2000 race
but you know she is prone to bullshit.



DON'T NEED A WEATHERMAN TO KNOW ...
As you know the Weather Underground, the somewhat hapless but definitely violent 60s and 70s radical group, has bubbled up into the 2008 presidential campaign. It's come up against Obama for his association with Bill Ayers and then Obama brought it up in response because Bill Clinton pardoned two former Weathermen in his end of presidency pardons.

Inside Edition of all places asked Hillary about the pardons and her response was that "Well, I didn't know anything about it."

Now, we've gotten a lot of emails from readers asking for us to follow up on this. And we ask for clarification from the Clinton campaign about just what she meant because I found her statement ambiguous. Did she mean she didn't knowing anything about it at the time? Or that she didn't know about it until Barack Obama brought it up in the debate. And Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told Greg Sargent that she was "unaware before it was done," which I take to mean that she wasn't privy to any of the discussions about it before the pardon and basically only heard about it in the newspapers like the rest of us.

But as New York Newsday points out, the murders in question (the crime the two individuals were in prison for) took place in New York. And the campaign to get them pardons and the opposition to it got a lot of publicity in New York in the summer and fall of 2000, when Clinton was initially running for senate. Newsday's blog has a chronology of who was doing what, including Sen. Schumer's lobbying against the pardon. So take a look and let us know what you think. For my part I think it makes her claim not to have known anything about this seem a bit dubious.

--Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
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