I agree with Howard Wolfson!

[CTLawGuy]

"Senator Obama was awarded 13 delegates to Senator Clinton's 12. As Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson said, "This is a race for delegates…It is not a battle for individual states. As David knows, we are well past the time when any state will have a disproportionate influence on the nominating process." "

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=272881


OMG! I also agree with Harold Ickes!

"More than half of all Democratic delegates will be up for grabs on Tuesday, and about 40 percent of Republican delegates are at stake in the biggest single day of presidential primary voting in campaign history.

"It's useful to win states, but states don't vote -- delegates do," said Harold Ickes, who is heading up the delegate operation for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

"This is very much a race for delegates at this point," said Ickes, a longtime Clinton insider and aide to President Bill Clinton."

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN3124420220080131

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With all this crap about "popular votes" (just the ones that are convenient for Hillary), and "big states" it's a good thing we have Howard Wolfson and Harold Ickes to set us straight.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. Wise, wise men.

[AtomicKitten]

2. Somebody pull the truck around ...

[CTLawGuy]

3. love that photo

can you photoshop "Clinton 08" shirts on them?

[ErinBerin84]

6. or ever better

photoshop one of Howard Wolfson's famous "lucky sweaters" on it.

[cliffordu]

11. Can we get a new set?? These are getting wore out....

[AtomicKitten]

12. they have the fortitude of spaghetti now from overuse

[cliffordu]

15. Guam is close to China, Hil can get us set for cheap!

[ErinBerin84]

4. I have this sneaky suspicion

that if (I will refrain from saying "when", to appease Clinton supporters)Obama gets the nomination, Howard Wolfson is going to accept a position as election coverage commenter on Fox News.

[DerekJ]

5. What say you HRC supporters?!!

[Mooney]

23. ...

[anonymous171]

7. Whoah. Me too!

[redqueen]

8. McAuliffe is also on record saying that MI and FL will not be seated.

They will just say whatever they think helps make her campaign seem more viable at the time.

[Gore1FL]

9. And Harold Ickes voted to strip them of their delegates

It's amazing to watch them all chase their tails.

[redqueen]

16. What's amazing to me is seeing the M$M hop on with the spin,

and even more amazing... watching her supporters somehow miss the significance.

[ej510]

13. The Dnc will have to do this to Hillary if it goes to the convention!

You lost Hillary. I am entitled! Then Pelosi yells security!

[redqueen]

18. That's Rush's goal, right there.

Ugh.

[Coexist]

14. McAuliffe, circa 2004: Michigan "will not get seated" if they break rules

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/25/165935/668/909/503541

"I'm going outside the primary window," (Michigan Sen. Carl Levin) told me definitively.

"If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses," I said. "We will have chaos. I let you make your case to the DNC, and we voted unanimously and you lost."

He kept insisting that they were going to move up Michigan on their own, even though if they did that, they would lose half their delegates. By that point Carl and I were leaning toward each other over a table in the middle of the room, shouting and dropping the occasional expletive.

"You won't deny us seats at the convention," he said.

"Carl, take it to the bank," I said. "They will not get a credential. The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules. If you want to call my bluff, Carl, you go ahead and do it."

We glared at each other some more, but there was nothing much left to say. I was holding all the cards and Levin knew it.

[graycem]

26. So were they seated?

Do you know? (guess I'll google)

Because Kerry carried Michigan yet they're saying we won't carry it if we don't seat them. I'm sure Dean and the Obama camps are aware of this. Why aren't they rebutting the Clinton surrogates I wonder.

[washingdem]

10. I'd like to hear what the Clinton supporters think of this.

[redqueen]

17. Heh... you might be waiting a while.

*sigh*

[ScarletSniper]

24. ha,...don't bank on it..they tend to disappear when truth and facts pop up

[nerddem]

19. there's the operative phrase...

..."This is very much a race for delegates at this point," said Ickes, a longtime Clinton insider and aide to President Bill Clinton."

at today's point, it's very much a race for... ...um... ...?

[flpoljunkie]

20. The Superdelegates aren't buying the Clinton camp's sudden conversion to popular vote theory.

Dems' suspense may be unnecessary
By: Elizabeth Drew
April 25, 2008 11:35 AM EST

The torrent of speculation about the end game of the Democratic nomination contest is creating a false sense of suspense – and wasting a lot of time of the multitudes who are anxious to know how this contest is going to turn out.

Notwithstanding the plentiful commentary to the effect that the Pennsylvania primary must have shaken superdelegates planning to support Barack Obama, causing them to rethink their position, key Democrats on Capitol Hill are unbudged.

“I don’t think anyone’s shaken,” a leading House Democrat told me. The critical mass of Democratic congressmen that has been prepared to endorse Obama when the timing seemed right remains prepared to do so. Their reasons, ones they have held for months, have not changed – and by their very nature are unlikely to.

<>One Democratic leader told me, “If we overrule the elected delegates there would be mayhem.” Hillary Rodham Clinton’s claim that she has, or will have, won the popular vote does not impress them – both because of her dubious math and because, as another key Democrat says firmly, “The rules are that it’s the delegates, period.” (These views are closely aligned with Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s statement earlier this year that the superdelegates should not overrule the votes of the elected delegates.)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9862.html

[SunsetDreams]

21. Say Anything~Do Anything

great find, thank you

[CTLawGuy]

22. yw

nt

[DerekJ]

25. Kick