"Obama's pastor in a camp of violent extremists who use guns & grenades in the name of religion"

[Bluebear]

Holy moly . . .

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Conservative Church Leader to Attend Meeting with Obama's Pastor

Contact: Peggy Birchfield, 202-236-0953.

WASHINGTON, April 25 /Christian Newswire/ -- The Reverend Rob Schenck (pronounced SHANK), president of the conservative National Clergy Council and chairman of the Committee on Church and Society for the Evangelical Church Alliance, will attend a National Press Club Breakfast featuring Sen. Barack Obama's long-time pastor, Dr. Jeremiah Wright, on Monday, April 28, at 8:30 AM, at the National Press Club, 529 14th Street NW, Washington, DC 20045.

Rev. Schenck said, "Jeremiah Wright's liberation theology puts him in a camp of violent extremists who use guns and grenades in the name of religion. Dr. Wright needs to unequivocally denounce these dangerous movements and explain how he is fundamentally different from them."

Rev. Schenck will report Dr. Wright's comments to church leaders around the country and will seek to respectfully engage the United Church of Christ minister on several questions about his controversial sermons and statements. Rev. Schenck will also deliver a personal letter asking Dr. Wright to participate in a conversation on theology, race and culture.

Rev. Schenck will be available to the media for comment immediately before and after Monday's breakfast event. Contact Peggy Birchfield, 202-236-0953.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/faa04252.htm

[DJ13]

1. ....

[Kool Kitty]

2. The next pastor that Rev. Schenck

should listen to and question is McCain's Rev. Hagee.

[TTUBatfan2008]

5. Rod Parsley...

perhaps even worse than Haggee. Mr. Parsley claims that the United States was founded to DESTROY Islam.

[Kool Kitty]

Damn, I keep forgetting about him.

:crazy:

[cliffordu]

3. That's right, and don't you fucking forget it.

Timothy McViegh was our savior

:sarcasm:

sarcasm added for the too serious among us.

[Mz Pip]

4. Just because Schenck says it

doesn't make it true.

[grannylib]

6. "Puts him in a camp of..." sounds pretty thin and inflammatory to me

Maybe the guy should try listening to/reading Rev. Wright's ENTIRE catalog of sermons, not just the sound bites that people are trying to cement to Senator Obama, as though he said them, condones them, and has not condemned them already.
What a crock. I know we can expect more of this SHIT as we move to the GE; my prayer is that the voting public has woken/is waking up to the filthy tactics of the Reich Wing and who WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!

[Bucky]

7. Wow, Obama's supported to someone who clings to God & guns simultaneously!!

Hey, Bluebear, when did you start citing RW religious nuts as reliable sources? I've always thought of you as one of the level heads around here.

[Bluebear]

10. My dear Bucky, this is presented not as a reliable source, but as a reliable outrage!

Hence the "holy moly". :)

[Catherina]

8. Rev Wright doesn't need to do jack shit you conservative jackass (Schenck)

Thanks for posting this and the phone number Bluebear. I'll be giving Ms Birchfield a little call for that Schenck Skunk.

Looks like the wheat is separating from the chaff alright.

[Bluebear]

12. I hope "Peggy" gets an earful :)

[Catherina]

17. I'll check in an hour

Let's just say it's a call I'd rather make when no one is within earshot ;)

[JoFerret]

33. Be careful the wheat does not have stem rust.

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[nichomachus]

9. Actually, Jesus told his followers to buy weapons

In fact, he told them to sell their clothes to get them, if they had to. Some were heavily armed.

Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. (Luke 22:35-38, NIV)

[JuniperLea]

18. You need to read the entire story of the last supper where this appears

This was for protection, not hostility. Jesus also said he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.

Jesus Christ... still taken out of context 2000+ years later.

[nichomachus]

21. Have read the entire story

In the original language -- but thnx

But since it's fiction anyway, it's not much use arguing over it.

[bhikkhu]

28. I think the Pope needs to denounce and reject the guy immediately

If that clip were on youtube it'd be going viral!

[spanone]

11. it's just the beginning folks...just the beginning

[rodeodance]

32. yes, I see this article as an example of what the Religious Right will

use against Obama if he gets the nomination.

[backscatter712]

37. Will it be any worse than what the rightards would use against Hillary?

No, didn't think so.

[rodeodance]

38. most of her stuff is OLD RW smears. people are bored with it as is the media. Now obama

is the new kid on the block as they say.

just musing.

[backscatter712]

41. Don't underestimate the right-wing.

They're very creative when they invent new fictions.

Don't think they don't have lots of new material to use against Clinton...

[Bonobo]

13. Another Pukelicious post!

[haymakeragain]

14. Anybody else think Wright would wipe the floor with this toad in a

theological debate? Methinks so.

[EmilyAnne]

15. Isn't Rob Schenk the guy who founded Operation Rescue, fostering a few murderers of abortion

doctors? Also, he tried to present Bill Clinton with an actual fetus?

Hmm...

[jody]

16. It's sad when any religious leader uses her/his podium to preach hate rather than love.

That's why I find organized religion so distasteful.

[JuniperLea]

19. Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar...

I don't think any preacher should discuss politics in any form from the pulpit... nothing about the government, nothing about our nation's policies... and if they do, they should lose their tax-exempt status.

What this numb nuts fails to understand is PR 101... STFU.

[Kber]

20. I thought Obama was an effete elitist?

I'm confused.

[Barack_America]

22. Thank you for braving Free Republic to dig this up.

:eyes:

[merh]

23. Do you have any proof that Wright's

are "violent extremists who use guns and grenades in the name of religion"?

Do you think posting some other preacher's comments makes it so?

It isn't in the bible so it isn't gospel - so tell me, have you got anything to back up your choice of quotes to make the subject of this OP?

Personally I believe, the preacher that said this runs the risk of burning in hell, if you believe the bible and all that nonsense about bearing false witness.

[Bluebear]

26. I can't believe you would address me like this, merh.

Where did you get the idea that I was endorsing this crap?

Did my prefacing it by saying "holy moly" give you any clue whatsoever?

Did you bother to read any of the thread before posting this...or ANOTHER post against me right below it?

Do me a favor and just forget we ever knew each other.

[merh]

29. You used a statement from the piece as your subject

you didn't use the title - you used a very inflammatory line, there was the "holy molly" but it was uncertain as to what the holy molly means.

I've been disappointed at what a great many post on this board.

[Bluebear]

30. Yeah. I used a statement from the piece. It was supposed to be an inflammatory line.

Because it was an inflammatory accusation against one of our candidates.

And you, uncertain as to what something meant, couldn't give me the benefit of the doubt or ask questions, no, you launch into me. I would have hoped that you would at least recognize a kindness done for you with at least tempering your response, let alone think the worst of me. Whatever, like I said, forget you knew me, put me on ignore and I will do the same for you.

[merh]

34. Did me a kindness?

How?

I posted of my disappointment in your post and I debunked the person that made the inflammatory statement. You could have included the information that discredited the person that made the statement. You could have questioned his proof. You choose to do neither, you just posted to inflame.

I didn't discredit you, I discredited your post. I'm sorry to read that in your mind a challenge such as mine is taken as something that qualifies as a reason to write me off and put me on ignore. I cannot and will not ever write you off. No candidate is worth that.

[Bluebear]

42. "Did me a kindness? How?"

Oh, it was nothing, really.

[merh]

46. I misunderstood, I thought you were talking about some kindness

to me in this thread and not your kindness to me always. I've always been grateful to you for your kindness and support, opposing your position on this subject does not change that and never will.

Challenges to posts are not personal attacks. It is disappointing when someone posts to inflame and stir up an already testy situation. You support hillary, the use of the subject without debunking it and/or the commenter was not done to help out obama.

It is sad that people believe they can run around belittling people and expect the people to take it. I've not seen you use the derogatory terms for obama supporters but others have and it is only done to hurt.

[Bluebear]

47. I'm sorry, but you are quite mistaken

First on the "you support Hillary" bit, I supported Edwards and remain unenthused about either candidate remaining, however I will of course vote for them.

Secondly, this attention-whore "reverend" is so using this to further his own agenda that I would think it quite obvious what the intention was in posting it. PS, Obama does not need "helping out" in GDP, n'est pas? I don't know what you are referring to as to running around belittling people, but I would hope I am not doing that.

[merh]

48. You are right, I am mistaken, forgive me.

I have not seen you belittle others and I didn't mean my post to read as if I were implying you were.

I apologize for my posts.

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[merh]

24. the good reverend - I can't believe you posted this as if he matters

and isn't some extremist in his own right.

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# Rev. Rob Schenck’s group National Clergy Council is a Dominionist group seeing to replace civil law with biblical literalism.

# Rob Schenck threatened the moving company responsible for moving Roy Moore’s Ten Commandments monument.

# Rob Schenck declared that the Supreme Court shouldn’t let people attack the Ten Commandments.
http://atheism.about.com/b/2006/01/10/ministers-anoint-alitos-chair-with-holy-oil.htm

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"Fess Up to God and Man, Step Aside and Seek Help"

Rev. Rob Schenck of Faith and Action offers some unsolicited advice to Sen. Larry Craig and even pens a sample statement for him that concludes: "I hereby resign my seat in the United States Senate. Thank you."

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/groups/faith_and_actio/index.html

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What I will say is that Dr. Graham and his organization allowed the Clintons to take this holy moment, this sacred hour, and once again soil it, as President Clinton had done to his sacred office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

The specter of Dr. Graham's departure from the world stage already had me in a sort of funk. But this was an even sadder spectacle; too sad for me, and I left. I never did hear Dr. Graham preach. I'd rather have his better days in my memories.

In case you're wondering about Hillary's intentions on that platform, she went on to the whoops and whistles of another adoring crowd the very next day as she marched in the annual Gay Pride Parade. It was a very different kind of crowd, though. To see what I mean, check out this link, but don't let your kids see it:
http://www.barbwired.com/nadiaweb/nawl/archives/000389.html

http://www.michnews.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/171/8580

[Bluebear]

27. Thanks for all those links, boy, Schenck was some kind of personal hero to me up until now.

:eyes:

[Forkboy]

25. Another clueless shmuck.

[bevoette]

31. Wright's gonna mess him up, LOL

i'm kidding, of course...just laughing at the notion someone is gonna "engage" Wright, like he's supposed to be scared...lmao

[backscatter712]

35. Why is anyone even talking about Wright anymore?

This is utter garbage. Guilt-by-association trash.

OMG, Obama went to church with a rabid pastor!!! Then when you look into things, Obama's pastor turns out to be not so rabid after all. Then OMG, the pastor is going to a meeting that might have an undesirable individual in it!

This is Hannitized right wing molehill political shit.

[tishaLA]

36. Schenck: Why I Walked Out on Billy Graham

<...> I eventually settled in my seat close to the platform. I enjoyed the musical program, although it was youth night and the music was just a little to high adrenaline for my personal tastes. Then came the moment I had come for, the preaching of the "old time Gospel." I looked up from my reading material anticipating Dr. Graham's arrival on the stage. But wait, who was this?

Out of the shadows came a very familiar figure, but it wasn't Billy Graham--it was Bill Clinton!

Yes, former President Bill Clinton, accompanied by his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, came out, both waving to a cheering crowd. They used the old "simulated eye-contact" that goes on routinely at political rallies, before taking their seats immediately adjacent to the pulpit.

I was stunned. What were Bill and Hillary Clinton doing on the platform of a Billy Graham Crusade? <...>

Now don't get me wrong, I didn't leave in a huff. I was more in a daze. I couldn't believe that I had just witnessed the Clintons manipulate their way to a quasi endorsement by the leading Evangelical of the last half-century. It was shameless exploitation of a sacred platform by the most powerful, cunning and recklessly ambitious political duo in American history. LINK

Seems he doesn't like many Democrats at all.

[Bluebear]

43. 'Seems he doesn't like many Democrats at all.'

He doesn't. Then again, I don't think he really likes people at all. Just his Bible.

He's a publicity whore of the worst kind.

[tishaLA]

39. Schenck Also Supporterd Roy Moore in AL

"With his distinctive New York accent, a style of dress more befitting of a Wall Street banker than a minister, and a relaxed demeanor--even opponents describe him as friendly and likable--Schenck is not the type you'd expect to find in a revival tent or on a pulpit. Indeed, he was raised in a liberal, secular household by Reform Jewish parents, and only converted to Christianity when he was 17. When I dropped by to visit with him in August, Schenck had just returned from Montgomery, Ala., where he organized daily rallies outside the state's supreme court building to protest the removal of Chief Justice Roy Moore's own monument--a 5,300-pound monolith carved from granite--to the Ten Commandments. And though Moore's monument was carted away, Schenck told me, by successfully directing the media spotlight on the removal and Moore's subsequent suspension, the protest was "an enormous success." Moore has become a martyr to a mounting coalition of conservative religious groups "incensed" by the debacle, says Schenck, who spent months planning for the rallies. Now, a sleeping elephant has awoken--and Schenck hopes to precipitate a stampede.

The Moore protests signal the beginning of a new day for religious conservatives. Until recently, the movement was in decline, with organizations like the Christian Coalition bleeding members and contributions. But with born-again Christians in the Oval Office and leadership positions in Congress, and a hard-right Pentecostal heading the Justice Department, religious conservatives have more access to the corridors of power than they have had in a decade. And recent setbacks--like the Supreme Court's sodomy ruling and Canada's legalization of gay marriage--have served to energize their ranks." Washington Monthly

[krispos42]

44. Um...

Pot. Kettle. Black.


I don't think we're killing Muslims with candy and flowers, are we?