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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:15 PM
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“OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS Saturday April 26 2008

WELCOME TO “OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS

Saturday April 26 2008


Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., pressures Kory Mckay,
left, during a '3-on-3 Challenge for Change' basketball game at Maple Crest
Elementary School in Kokomo, Ind., Friday, April 25, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:16 PM
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1. Huckabee: 'Presumptuous' to assume Obama agrees with Wright
April 25, 2008
Huckabee: 'Presumptuous' to assume Obama agrees with Wright
Posted: 03:30 PM ET


Huckabee and McCain spoke with reporters Friday on the Straight Talk Express.

(CNN) – Mike Huckabee, a former contender for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, said it would be “a little bit presumptuous to ever assume” that a congregant agrees with everything a pastor says.

“Influential? Sure.

Transferable? Usually not,” Huckabee told a reporter while speaking with the press aboard Sen. John McCain’s campaign bus, the Straight Talk Express.
Huckabee, who was a Baptist pastor before eventually becoming Arkansas’s governor, is campaigning with McCain in Little Rock Friday. The former rivals maintained a cordial relationship before Huckabee ended his presidential bid leaving McCain as the GOP’s presumptive nominee.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/25/huckabee-presumptuous-to-assume-obama-agrees-with-wright/


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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:31 PM
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12. I like Huckabee
I disagree with all of his policy positions, but I think he's a decent man. That's probably why he didn't do better in the Republican primary.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:18 PM
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2. Hillary Clinton Push Polling in North Carolina
Give her a phone, what does she do?

Hillary Clinton Push Polling

Posted April 24, 2008 | 01:05 PM (EST)

North Carolina activist David LaMotte just got a push poll call from the firm of Geoff Garin, the new head of Hillary Clinton's campaign team. It wasn't as bad as asking "would it change your mind if you knew John Kerry actually bought his Vietnam medals off eBay." Or "How do you feel about John McCain's illegitimate black children?" But it was a push poll nonetheless, even if it also had elements of information gathering and message testing. This isn't the first time that the Clinton campaign or their allies have had pollsters offering positive information about Clinton and negative information about her opponents--they did it on the eve of the California primary and in South Carolina. (And firms linked to the Giuliani campaign made highly negative push poll calls against Mitt Romney in Iowa and New Hampshire) But it's a disturbing practice precisely because it tries to spin the recipient under the pretense of merely asking about their views.

Here's LaMotte's story, below, and you can listen to the actual call here...

....A guy named Ed called from Akron, Ohio, and when I asked what polling outfit he works for he said Garin-Hart-Yang, based in DC At first I was delighted to be polled, as I've been interested in the race and following the rest of the nation's polls closely throughout the campaign.
The questions started out normal enough, but got progressively more ridiculous. Early in the conversation Ed asked my preference among the Democratic candidates and I told him I was an Obama supporter.....
Then the questions turned to long Hillary-praising and Barack bashing policy statements with the response options being "Do you consider that a very strong, strong or weak or very weak reason to support her candidacy for president?" which is kind of an unanswerable question, and clearly not the point. At the end of the conversation they asked "Now based on everything we've discussed, who would you vote for?"
The questions were often based on statements that I wouldn't agree with in the first place. It's classic push polling as I've read about it, though never experienced it before. The questions are of the "Are you still beating your wife?" variety. No way to answer with any sense of veracity and integrity.

....."I'm going to read you a few criticisms opponents might make about Barack Obama. For each one please tell me if they give you very major doubts, fairly major doubts, some doubts or no real doubts about supporting Barack Obama for president. At a time when we need leaders who are clear, strong and decisive, Obama has been inconsistent, saying he would remove all troops, but then indicating that he might not, and pledging to renegotiate NAFTA, but then sending signals that he would not actually do so as president. He supported George W. Bush's 2005 energy bill which payed six billion dollars in subsidies to the oil and gas industry, nine billion dollars in subsidies to the coal industry and twelve billion dollars in subsidies to the nuclear power industry. It was called 'a piñata of perks' and 'the best energy bill corporations could buy. Would that leave you with major doubts, some doubts or no real doubts?"

...more at the link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-loeb/is-hillary-clinton-push-p_b_98446.html
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:20 PM
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3. Canvasing in Billings MT 9-12 Tomorrow - Obama MT TV ads start rotation across state
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:20 PM by asSEENonTV
Hopefully the June 3 Primary will be frosting on the Obama nomination, but we'll work hard to help MT go for Obama in June and November.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:45 PM
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17. Canvassing in Missoula tomorrow as well. It's big push statewide to register voters before
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:47 PM by John Q. Citizen
mail in registration is cut off on May 6th. After that, people who want to register to vote will have to appear in person at their county seat to register. People can register in person up to and on election day, but until May 6th, they can register and mail it in without traveling. Since Montana is a very big sparsely populated state, it's important to get involved now, other wise people may have to drive 100 miles or more to get registered, depending on their counties geography.

Here are the Obama campaign offices in Montana:

Helena
28 North Last Chance Gulch
Helena, MT 59601
406-443-2152

Missoula
218 East Front Street, Suite 100
Missoula, MT 59802
406-830-3066

Great Falls
18 Sixth Street North
Main Floor
Great Falls, MT 59401
406-452-2928

Billings
222 North Broadway
Billings, MT 59101
406-254-2008

Bozeman
105 West Main St
Suite 1 Mezzanine West
Bozeman, MT 59715
406-586-8447
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:22 PM
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4. Limbaugh urges rioting at Denver Democratic Convention
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:22 PM
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5. MAJOR CLINTON FUNDRAISER DEFECTS TO OBAMA
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:23 PM
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6. Wright Says His Words Were Twisted
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:23 PM
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7. Superdelegates are NOT being fooled by Clinton! Great news!!
AZBlue

Apr 25 • Clinton can lie all she wants and tell everyone that she's more electable, that she's got the

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5684770



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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:24 PM
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8. No matter what she says or does, you still support her
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:25 PM
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9. Jed Report: Superdelegates should let voters score the final touchdown
Jed Report Fri Apr 25, 3:33
Superdelegates should let voters score the final touchdown

There is no longer any question about whether or if Barack Obama will be the Democratic candidate for president. The question now is when and how he will be recognized as the party's presumptive nominee.

It will happen sometime before the Democratic National Convention, just as soon as he secures the 2,024 delegates it will take to win the nomination on the convention floor. When that moment is upon us, everything else that has happened in the campaign will be overshadowed, rendered moot in an instant.

When Barack Obama is declared the presumptive nominee, it will be tremendously important that he be seen as having won on the strength of his electoral victories. To allow the formation of the unfair and absurd perception that an elite group of insiders handed him the nomination would be incredibly damaging to Democratic prospects in the fall.

Unfortunately, we now find ourselves in a situation where superdelegates run the very real risk of letting that happen. If they don't act soon -- before May 20, as I will show -- they will give Obama's political opponents all the ammunition they need to develop such a crippling narrative.

…more at the link http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/superdelegates.html


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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:37 AM
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27. Ha. I should be a pundit
I made the same argument a month ago.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:39 AM
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28. Nice job. Jed is a member over here, maybe you gave him idea
Jed posts videos over in Political Video now and then.

but yes, you can be a pundit.

When you post, add the post to "your journal".

Also, submit it at www.OpEdNews.com and thousands of people will see it.

And theres the reader blogs at www.talkingpointsmemo.com
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:26 PM
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10. A Juxtaposition: Yes We Can Vs Screw 'Em
A Juxtaposition: Yes We Can Vs Screw 'Em
The Personal IS Political Friday, April 25, 2008


I find nothing puts this primary contest in perspective like juxtaposing the character of the candidates. We know that Hillary cannot win the nomination, that has been obvious for quite some time now, yet she continues to try to take down our nominee, by all means necessary, either out of spite or desire to run for president again in four years. Either way, she has again and again shown she puts herself and her political ambitions ahead of the Democratic Party, and America (she is willing to subject Americans, and the rest of the world, to 4 or 8 more years of the same for her own cynical aims). This offers us a point of juxtaposition.

First, Obama is planning a "massive" 50-state voter registration campaign to boost membership and participation for the Democratic Party. This is on top of the amazing things he has already accomplished all across the country, energizing and engaging Americans everywhere he goes. This just highlights his understanding of, and commitment to, a 50-state strategy. Even though this strategy, championed by Howard Dean led us to massive victories in the 2006 midterm elections, Hillary is still against Dean and his strategy, instead promoting her "screw 40-states" strategy, which has worked for her so well throughout this election.

Second, Obama has setup a joint fundraising committee with the DNC, which will help raise money for the DNC, which has gotten its ass kicked in fundraising thus far by the RNC. Adding Obama's fundraising power to the DNC's efforts will be of huge help to the Democratic Party. Obama's campaign comment says it all, "This is an effort to be a team player and make sure we have the resources we need." Notice the "we", this race is about the Party and Americans, not his own personal political ambitions. This is nothing new, his entire campaign has focused on building a movement. He has said over and over again than this is bigger than him, that it isn't about him, that is about the people, and they have shown their support of the movement by volunteering time, contributing money and winning him victories in twice as many states as Hillary, and by much greater margins. At the same time Hillary has disparaged and dismissed every voter, state and demographic that hasn't supported her. While he is saying "Yes WE Can", she is saying "Screw 'em!" And while he takes time out of his campaigning to cut advertisements to help fellow Democrats, and helps raise money for the Party and even charitable causes, Hillary has her big money donors threaten to cut off funding to the DNC if they don't do exactly what Hillary wants. The already underfunded DNC actually had to return tens of thousands of dollars to Democratic donors who tried to extort the Party to force Party leaders to support Hillary.

...more at the link
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/juxtaposition-yes-we-can-vs-screw-em.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:28 PM
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11. The Obliterator vs. Uncommitted

The Obliterator vs. Uncommitted

Corrente Friday, April 25, 2008

I will never forget that magical night in Michigan - Tuesday, the 15th of January, in the year of our Lord 2008 - when Hillary "The Obliterator" Clinton (who was raised only a few miles from anywhere you can ever think of) vanguished the relentless Dennis Kucinich and some guy named "Uncommitted" by a combined 179,526 popular votes total.

It was one of the most glorious victories in the history of history!

How many popular former hometown regular First Lady regular girls can say that they not only vanguished Dennis Kucinich (who is hitched to a unregular foreigner girl) but also defeated a shameless unregular army of 238,168 unpopular disgruntled "uncommitted" nose-thumbers who would not even identify themselves!

It just goes to show that "The Obliterator" is ready to command the rule of law on day one and won't be deterred by obscure unexpected rulings foisted upon her by manipulative man-drones and shameless downtown elites and anti-regular uncommitted defeatists!

"The Obliterator" commands! "The Obliterator" rules! "The Obliterator" bows to no "Uncommited" and unpopular insurrectionist mob's "rule of law"! Not in Michigan and not in Iowa and not in North Carolina and not anywhere else where anxious downtown elites and "creative class" society hill layabouts try to delegate to the suffering optimistic resilient will of the regular people! God save "The Obliterator"!

…WARNING: Road May Take Sudden Turn In Opposite Direction

Via Daily KOs: McAuliffe, circa 2004: Michigan "will not get seated" if they break rules:
"I'm going outside the primary window," told me definitively.

"If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses," I said. "We will have chaos. I let you make your case to the DNC, and we voted unanimously and you lost."


…more at the link http://corrente.blogspot.com/2008/04/obliterator-vs-uncommitted.html
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:35 PM
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13. Our physically fit president playing basketball in Kokomo Indiana
U.S. Senator and democratic presidential hopeful Obama plays in basketball game during campaign stop in Kokomo …



















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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:39 PM
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14. Obama, Democratic Party Make Fundraising Deal

Obama, Democratic Party Make Fundraising Deal

Friday, April 25th, 2008



First on The Page: the Land of Lincolner and DNC plan to file a joint fundraising agreement soon that will allow donors to give simultaneously to his campaign and the national party.

Read more about it here.

Obama Deputy Campaign Manager Steve Hildebrand confirms on media conference call:

“It is something that we are moving forward with. As we understand it, the DNC has initiated these conversations with the Clinton campaign as well.”
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:42 PM
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15. Obama’s 50 State Campaign

Obama’s 50 State Campaign

Oliver Willis Published April 25, 2008



Obama is the next phase of the Democratic party’s return to national party status (phase one was Dean becoming chairman and the 2006 election)

Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign is planning to unveil a “massive” voter registration drive, one that will reach all 50 states and seeks to boost confidence in him as a potential general election candidate.

A senior campaign official is expected to provide details about the effort in a conference call Friday.


The Obama campaign is also entering into an agreement with the DNC for joint fundraising. According to the linked story the Clinton campaign has not gone that far yet in their negotiations with the national party. But then, we know they historically don’t play well with others.


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:44 PM
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16. Clinton’s Fuzzy Math - It’s like Bush economics.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:44 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted

Clinton’s Fuzzy Math

Oliver Willis April 25, 2008

It’s like Bush economics.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign debt at the end of March was bigger than it appeared because she didn’t list the $5 million she loaned herself, a campaign finance watchdog group reported this afternoon.

Clinton, in her filing with the Federal Election Commission, reported that her campaign had $9 million in cash on hand as of March 30, and $10 million in debts.

“The Clinton campaign itemizes its debts to vendors, totaling $10.3 million by the end of last month, but since January, when Clinton infused her campaign with $5 million, the campaign hasn’t been adding in that loan when reporting its overall debt to the Federal Election Commission,” the Center for Responsive Politics said.


Including the loan would put her debt as of March 30 at $15.3 million, the nonpartisan group said.

Let’s be generous and assume they’re telling the truth about bringing in $10 million (I’m doubtful), that means they’re still in the hole and there’s probably significantly more debt being accrued every day.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:47 PM
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18. He can't close.........
looks like he can't close the lid to me:

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:37 AM
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33. I liked this one!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:50 PM
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19. Back to the 1990s - superdelegate deja vu
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:51 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted

Back To The 1990s ...

Andrew Sullivan 25 Apr 2008 08:32 pm

... when Bill Clinton was a less impressive version of Barack Obama. Via Drudge, this is a classic NYT piece from 1992:

Eventually, most of the superdelegates are likely to back Mr. Clinton,
if only because there is no place else for them to go.
But they will do so "with extreme reluctance," one said, and the delay
and the grudging spirit makes it harder for Mr. Clinton to move his campaign
onto a higher plateau, free of character issues.


It's a useful reminder that many people saw the moral deficiencies of Bill Clinton long before Ken Starr poisoned the wells. And that young and new candidates will always - and not unreasonably -
prompt bouts of buyers' remorse, skepticism and scrutiny.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:53 PM
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20. "Operation Smoke Screen"

"Operation Smoke Screen"

Andrew Sullivan 25 Apr 2008 07:52 pm

A reader writes:

I just read your blog posting on Limbaugh's view that he is responsible for Hillary's win in PA. I am one of the individuals that changed his/her party registration from Republican to Democrat. I did this because the Republican ideals of rational government, fiscal responsibility, and states' rights over federal rights have been thrown out for religious fanaticism, federal control over every action, and spending out of control. I changed my registration to vote for change...to vote for Obama.

It is cute that Limbaugh saw that the electorate is upset with the Republicans and made up this Operation Chaos as a means of attempting to jump on the band wagon, but the underlying effect is clear. People are not changing from Republican to Democrat to assist the Republican Party in the fall. They are changing their party registrations because they lost faith in the Republicans to lead. If Limbaugh and others do not wake up to this fact, they will be given another great election result such as 2006.

Operation Chaos should be called Operation Smoke Screen.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:57 PM
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21. Letting Her Lose

Letting Her Lose

Andrew Sullivan 25 Apr 2008 05:43 pm

A reader writes:

Now that I am recovering from the Pennsylvania Hangover, I thought I would share how I have resolved myself to this continued drama, as one of your typical readers.

Since it is painfully obvious that She Who Must Not Be Named is going to take this battle into Denver (if not into November, as Jon Stewart "joked"), I that it is not the cowardice of the superdelegates to put an end to this, but the nearly unspoken necessity of sitting back and allowing the Clinton Campaign to play it out to its tragic conclusion. To allow that campaign to hang itself. Otherwise, Clinton will be a "victim". Again. This time it would not be the Great Right Wing Conspiracy, but their own party that has denied them. By allowing her to undeniably LOSE this nomination, with as little manipulative involvement possible, she will be forced to accept the truth of the matter, without relying on conspiracy excuses. She and her supporters can not be allowed to lose this with the slightest possibility of feeling robbed.

There is the possibility that she will irreversibly bloody Obama up before the end, and that would be part of the Greek tragedy of the Clinton legacy. However, as much of a shame it might be to sacrifice a "new voice" in politics, at least a destructive voice in present day politics might finally be silenced.


The key truth about the Clintons is that they are strongest when being attacked. It was Gingrich that gave Clinton purpose and direction in the mid-1990s; and it was Ken Starr who gave them a life-line in thr late 1990s. They are geniuses at pivoting off those who attack them. So the real answer to the Clintons is to let them collapse on their own terms, to watch them fail to get the necessary votes and delegates to win and desperately try to leverage the constructive forces of their opponent to gain back the White House.

Every push against them only strengthens them more. Obama needs to restate his core positive message, reach out to independents, Republicans, Hispanics, blacks and the young, and get out of the Clintons' sociopathic path. You only get bloodied if you fight them. And watching them self-destruct, slowly and by their own efforts, is the only way they will not turn defeat into some kind of Pyrrhic victory.

And when they finally go down under the weight of their own cynicism, what a joyous day that will be. That day is coming. And a new hope lies beyond it.


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:05 AM
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22. #5 n/t
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:15 AM
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23. Why Rush Limbaugh Ought to Be Force-Fed His Own Liposuctioned Fat

Why Rush Limbaugh Ought to Be Force-Fed His Own Liposuctioned Fat (Riot Edition):

Rude Pundit 4/25/2008

So rotund sex tourist Rush Limbaugh, in his ongoing effort to make the Democratic nomination process as bloody as possible, has stated what one of his goals is for his "Operation Chaos," involving people (the zomboid "Dittoheads" listening to him) registering as Democrats or voting in open primaries in order to sow internecine warfare in the Democratic party. That goal is to so infect the process that there are riots at the Democratic National Convention in Denver. And, no, that's not an exaggeration or taking this fat fuck out of context. Here he is on Wednesday on his show (quoted extensively before it goes up behind his wallet-sucking wall):

"This is about chaos. This is why it's called Operation Chaos! It's not called Operation Save Hillary. It's not called Operation Nominate Obama. It's called Operation Chaos! The dream end... I mean, if people say what's your exit strategy, the dream end of this is that this keeps up to the convention and that we have a replay of Chicago 1968, with burning cars, protests, fires, literal riots, and all of that. That's the objective here."

...So there you go, conservatives so concerned about Barack Obama's association with a professor of education who was involved in a violent Vietnam War protest group 40 years ago: Rush Limbaugh wants there to be violence in the streets of Denver this summer. It is his "desire," he "dreams" of it, that it's his "objective." But, hey, if he says he's not "inspiring" or "inciting" it, he must be telling the truth.

It would be like porn to him, sitting there in his leather Herman Miller, his enormous flat-screen glowing with the cars on fire, reflecting off the broken glass in the street, empty box of Kleenex and empty jar of Vaseline, desperately jacking off his flaccid, scabby, tiny dick one more time, popping bootleg Viagra to try to get hard, thinking, "Yes, dreams do come true."

Rush Limbaugh wants violence in the streets of an American city. He wants destruction, and he wants people hurt, maybe killed, including police officers. And he has decided to use his followers to make this violence happen. Now, how is he different than Osama bin Laden?

....more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:22 AM
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24. AWESOME mural of Obama by "Go Tell Mama I'm For Obama"
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:26 AM
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25. Call me crazy but.....
Reaction to Bill Moyers show on Wright...

Call me crazy but...

Saturday, April 26, 2008

...after seeing him on the Bill Moyers show last night I'll take Rev. Wright over those assholes like Hagge, Fallwell, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, and most any other man of the cloth, with the exception of Rev. Shuck and Father Ted of course, any day of the week. The world needs more ministers like Rev. Wright.



And you can call me crazy but this guy is my idea of a great American President:




Too bad Evo Morales is President of Bolivia and not the USA. When Presidential elections in this country aren't decided by rich white men on the Supreme Court or fixed like the last one was, then maybe one day we'll elect someone with the integrity, vision, commitment to social justice, and desire for financial equality like Evo.

Posted by Dr. Monkey Von Monkerstein


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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:28 AM
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26. Hillary's Favorite Fallacies By Jim Fetzer
(posted by Demeter in editorials)

Madison, WI (April 24, 2008) – As a retired professor of philosophy who has spent 35 years teaching college courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, I find it astonishing that newspaper reporters and television commentators are being taken in by fallacious arguments on behalf of Hillary. None of the five most important arguments for supporting Hillary in her contest with Barack Obama, for example, could pass scrutiny in a freshman course on critical thinking. There is powerful evidence here that politicians are among the most prolific at dispensing fallacies. That they continue to be taken seriously suggests that the "dumbing down" of America is complete or at a very advanced stage.

more...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x355279
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:50 AM
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29. "A false sense of suspense"

"A false sense of suspense"

Posted by Mark Kleiman April 25, 2008

Elizabeth Drew reports that the superdelegate stampede to Obama isn't a matter of "whether," but of "when."

That said, wouldn't it be nice if he were to take Indiana and put the campaign out of its misery?




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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:38 AM
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30. *Nobel Laureate Economists * Stiglitz and Phelps Endorse Obama
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:52 AM
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32. P.S.
per link....Stiglitz served in the Clinton Administration as the chair of the President's Council of Economic Advisors (1995 – 1997).
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:45 AM
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31. VIDEO - Full Interview - Rev. Wright on Bill Moyers (MUST SEE!)
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:11 AM
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34. Pennsylvania Post-Mortem and Doubtful 2008 General Election Reform
PA: Pennsylvania Post-Mortem and Doubtful 2008 General Election Reform
(Internet Radio)

Tom D'Antoni and Art Levine's debut show on election irregularities in the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary. Guests: John Bonifaz, Legal Director of Voter Action; Jonah Goldman, National Campaign for Fair Elections; and Celeste Taylor, head of Pennsylvania's People for the American way. Art has a forthcoming article "Congress to U.S. Voters: Don't Count On Election Reform This Year"

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/tomandart/2008/04/24/Pennsylvania-Post-Mortem-and-Doubtful-2008-General-Election-Reform


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Background from an e-voting activist:

PA uses paperless voting machines, some that we have discovered did not meet
the specs that the vendor submitted to the federal testing labs.

PA has experienced high undervote rates with the machines.

Another devious side effect of these paperless direct record computerized voting machines
is that you need lots of the machines at each polling place.

The election officials only sent about 2 machines to the busy polling places in Philly and Obama strong holds. Hundreds of people left without voting at these locations.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:24 AM
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35. PA ignored its own memo to have emergency paper ballots on hand
Voter Action filed a lawsuit to keep polling places (that had broken voting machines)
open an extra 2 hours.

People were forced to wait 2 hours while machines were replaced or repaired or while
waiting for other voters.

Thats what happens when you short polling places machines, or send them broken ones.

Supposedly the machines were tested the week before the election.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:29 AM
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36. It took 103 people 8 hours to vote in Upper Darby
Dirty Tricks" We know who really won.......
By Christopher - Apr 23rd, 2008 at 4:25 pm EDT

Community Blogs

By Christopher - Apr 23rd, 2008

If you were planning to vote yesterday in the Pennsylvania primary you had another thing coming as reports of voting machine problems in all of Obama's stronghold precincts. Several machines were malfunctioning in the city, leading one local community leader to allege "dirty tricks" were the cause.

Many residents trying to cast ballots yesterday found long lines and broken machines and intimidation across the region.

Six of ten machines were down at a busy Delaware County polling site. It took 103 people 8 hours to vote in Upper Darby, which is heavily populated by immigrant and first time voters. Many of those freshly-minted voters had difficulties using the six machines that still functioned. "Hell of a day for six of the machines to go down," said one poll worker.

In South Philadelphia, voting machines were broken at 4th and Ritner, smack dab in the middle of a Obama strong hold. "The dirty tricks have begun," said John Lucas, spokesman for the election board, who sees a conspiracy.

A local elections official interviewed on MSNBC acknowledged some problems early Tuesday morning, but he said those had been resolved before midday. He denied reports that only one or two voting machines were functional in some predominantly African American neighborhoods.

"We had a few problems early on. We always do," Fred Voight, a deputy commissioner in Philadelphia told MSNBC.He called reports of machines damaged and broke down "flat out untrue" and said "everything is working smoothly in the city as we speak." The interview aired around 11:15 a.m. Tuesday.

The Justice Department announced Monday that it would have monitors in Philadelphia to ensure compliance with voting laws. "Well if i say so myself they haven't done to good a job to let this tragedy occur.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Christopherwalls/gGCVyR
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:32 AM
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37. Machines were literally BROKEN (photo) See the long lines (photos)










In ten Pittsburgh neighborhoods, many reports of voting problems were reported to the Tribune Review:

Our campaign said there were problems with machines in Lincoln Place and the Hill District, but county officials that endorsed Hillary Clinton stated they couldn't confirm anything.Because of the expected large turnout, election judges' difficulty getting machines started at a polling place in North Braddock and another in the city's Banksville section prompted some concern.

At these two sites, election judges, clerks and inspectors, all nominally paid volunteers, initially were unable to print out verification that the voting machines had been set at zero. A technician was dispatched to each location and helped to properly set up the machines,upon further inspection machines had been manipulated and set with 500 to 1500 votes calibrated to Clinton.

Only 30 people in Banksville and several more in North Braddock could use emergency paper ballots to cast their votes, "30 ballots for an entire district" If that's not fraud, i don't know what is. Heavily black districts didn't have any ballots at all just broken or defective machines that didn't work.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Christopherwalls/gGCVyR
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:25 PM
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38. Those pictures are *must see*, though we will NEVER see them on MSNBC
or CNN or ABC. According to MSNBC---- everything went just dandy!!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:36 PM
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39. .
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:50 PM
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40. K & R
:thumbsup:
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