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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:59 AM
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HillaryClintonForum.net these people are over the top!
Oklahoma Governor Endorses Obama..

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....even though Senator Clinton won his state by a big margin. The press insists that super delegates not endorse Senator Clinton if she did not win the district and yet so many Obama endorsers are not abiding by that rule...Kennedy, Kerry, Casey, etc. I am outraged at the double standard. How do we get that information in the mainstream?

WAIT a minute
I thought Hillary is the one with the BIG win in the important battleground state of PA and she won OK.

Aren't the superdelegates supposed to come out for HRC per Lisa Caputo on CNN (previous thread).


Damn

Quote:
Originally Posted by lezah2
....even though Senator Clinton won his state by a big margin. The press insists that super delegates not endorse Senator Clinton if she did not win the district and yet so many Obama endorsers are not abiding by that rule...Kennedy, Kerry, Casey, etc. I am outraged at the double standard. How do we get that information in the mainstream?

This IS outrageous!!!!!!!!!! I'm writing to the NYT and the LA Times, highlighting those 3 + Richardson. What's worse, is that Hillary won OK, while the other 4 endorsing Obama went against their states' vote. She won those states too.

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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:01 AM
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1. Lmfao!
I saw this news first thing this a.m. I fired off this e-mail to Gov. Henry:


Quote:
Dear Governor Henry:

I do not reside in the great state of Oklahoma but my roots there are deep. My family were some of the first settlers in Oklahoma, and to this day I have family scattered throughout state. Throughout my childhood, each year my parents would travel from California to Oklahoma with their children, taking us "home" for a visit so we could gain some sense of our ancestral roots. To this day, I still come back every year for "Decoration Day" and bring my elderly mother who was born and raised there. Those visits have created a sense of family that has grounded me in good country morals and values - a true sense of right and wrong.

And I have always been proud of my heritage, that is until today. When I awoke to the news of your endorsement of Sen. Obama for president of this great nation I couldn't believe my eyes and ears. I am unsure as to how you justify such an endorsement when the citizens of your state made it quite clear who they endorsed for president - Hillary Clinton in case you have forgotten. And they made that choice quite clear by giving her 55% of the Democratic vote in the Primary.

What is more troubling to me than the fact that you turned your back on your own state, is that you would lend your support to a man who has been driven to "rock star" notoriety by media bias and his own sense of entitlement. I cannot imagine that the people of Oklahoma aren't outraged and incensed by your direct opposition to their choice of a presidential candidate.

If you will forgive me for being blunt, your statement of "I believe Senator Obama is uniquely positioned to unite our nation and move beyond the divisiveness and partisan skirmishes that too often characterize politics as usual in Washington," is ludicrous. What can Sen. Obama claim as genuine accomplishments that would lead you to believe that he is positioned to unite our nation? Because he's gotten people involved politically that previously were not? Because he gave a race relations speech?

People were bound to become more involved in this election year because of the disastrous eight-year political run of President Bush. That was going to happen whether the "rock star" ran or not. And let's be honest about why the great race-relations speech was given - because Sen. Obama HAD to give it. How could he not?

Sen. Obama has yet to lay out any clear plans to address the issues confronting our great nation. He talks about "change" but yet he hasn't told us how he plans to make that happen. In other words, he's proven he can talk but he hasn't proven he can make anything happen. His record in the Senate proves that. He's attached himself to some bills that were authored and pushed forward by others but beyond that he's been virtually ineffective.

Sen. Clinton on the other hand has consistently laid out her plans for fixing our economy, bringing our troops home, for creating jobs, and for aids to help our ailing environment.

And while she has been busy building a plan of attack to raise our country back to its feet, Sen. Obama has had to spend his time warding off justifiable attacks on his lack of judgment, questionable affiliations, and his elitism. The mere fact that he has had to spend considerable time doing damage control is something that should greatly concern you.

Sen. Clinton is focused solely on meeting the needs of our great country and in bringing us together unilaterally to provide solutions for America. I do not understand how you have looked past that.

Governor Henry, I am asking you to look deeper into the issues at hand and even more significantly, look deeper into what the voters of the great state of Oklahoma have proved they want. They put you into office, and knowing their values I cannot imagine that they will not take offense at your endorsement of someone other than the candidate they chose in the Primary. They can just as quickly put their support behind your opponent in the next election and I believe they will if you do not rescind your endorsement of Sen. Obama.

Thank you for your time and I am in hopes that you will admit to your error and do the right thing.

I am just deeply saddened by his endorsement of Obama. And deeply troubled.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=7951
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:01 AM
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2. Over the top?
They look more like bottom feeders to me. I've seen Freepers with less hate.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:04 AM
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3. They thought that Hillary would get all of the super delegates even though she is losing lol!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:10 AM
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4. I did not know that Hannity was honest.
Your letter was outstanding, Sharkeye! I am just astounded that the day after her big win a SD would actually pull something like this. I believe that BO and his campaign are buying these SD. There's no other explanation.

Just heard on Hannity on Talk Radio (which I've never listened to before; but the Dodgers now broadcast on KABC talk radio so thought a game was on...anyway, stumbled onto this) and he was talking with Dick Morris. Hannity was really putting it all out there as to BO's unelectability, his risky associations, the SFO comments, his tragic debate, his very inability to win the big states... and that the SD should be taking a serious 2nd look at Clinton who could actually beat McCain. But Morris took the tack that the Dems are "stuck with BO as the nominee" okay, the NERVE of him assuming that BO HAS the nomination, in the first place. Let's just say Morris was convinced BO had the nom but that McCain will beat him easily in November. Well, duh. And you can't blame Hillary for this... hey, the VOTERS clearly DON'T WANT BO!!!!

And, yet another comment by Hannity that just unnerved me; he says after so many bad things have come out about BO, and that SFO "bitter" comment, well, all they need is one more slip up like SFO and he's toast." Something to that effect. HUH????? HOW MANY FRIGGIN' CHANCES DOES BO GET??????????? Is there a counter out there???? Will someone in charge of this EXPLAIN TO ME why HE CONTINUES to get the benefit of the most outrageous doubt time and again???????????????????????

I'm steamed. Can you tell??
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:07 AM
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8. oh. You're serious.
No other explanation? Think REAL HARD why else Obama might be getting SD support.

ps. The nomination IS his. HiLIARy is, what else, lying.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:53 AM
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5. Hillaryous! Hillary wants SDs to consider Wright and not votes and switch to her
but whines when they go the other way. Just simply too rich for words. :rofl: B-) :hi: :popcorn: :rofl: :beer: :party: :smoke:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:00 AM
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6. "the press insists that superdelegates" ... ??? What has HilLIARy been telling them now.
What an embarrassment the whole brood is.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:03 AM
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7. if that's over the top
then what do you call the forum we're at now?
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:17 AM
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10. Zero Comparison.
The Right Wing media worship over there is beyond the pale.

It might get crazy here, but I very rarely see people gush over Hannity. Over there, it's par for the course with every poster.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:14 AM
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14. ridiculous. here are a few posts- typical posts- from that pig sty.
Like I posted before. Can you see the swearing in ceramony. Farrahkan yelling blue eyed devils and jewish slurs to the crowd. Ayers looking for the best local to put his best bomb ever (talk about a federal building). Then their is rezco jackin the White House china or trying to sell the lawn. And now to add to the cast of clowns Odinga raping the guests. God Help us all. Maybe obama will be so kind as to let Hillary make out the guest list. After all it is the least he could do!! Just venting, sorry!


mccain is a republican, sure, but he at least is a proud patriot and will not sell the country out to the wrights, farrakans, or kenya.

i will do every thing i can to keep that "king wannabe" out. it has come down to that for me. keeping obama out, period.

eta - i also will be, if given a chance, voting against every democratic senator/congressman who is keeping florida and michigan out and trying to force hillary out to crown their king. democrat be damned. this is no democracy. this is a sham.


obama must be stopped. if the dems proceed in forcing senator clinton out, mccain must win. obama as president cannot be allowed to happen. not an option. florida and michigan, and the remaining states the dems are trying to shut down, must must must stop this man. he is dangerous. mccain may be a conservative republican but he is not a danger to our country. please consider this when thinking of a write-in or not voting at all. going full out for mccain will send a very HUGE message to the dnc that we loyal democrats will NOT accept this. we will NOT "fall in line and be good little democrats doing what we are told".




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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:15 AM
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15. and you think this forum is any better?
if you think GDP is one iota better than what you posted, you're in denial.

Our politics is better, but our posts are as bad or worse than what you and the OP posted.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:24 AM
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16. nonsense. there's certainly a lot of crap here, but there's some
sense among the dross. Over there? None that I could see. The majority of posters here don't all say they won't vote for their chosen candidate. Over there? I couldn't find a single post saying if hillary didn't get it, they'd vote for obama. And it's worse because there are NO dissenting voices, no varying opinions. If you can't see that which is so obvious, you're the one in denial. Here, much of the racist, wacko crap that's standard fare over there would be deleted. Hell, they have an entire forum dedicated to Larry Sinclairl. And every poster believes that crazy shit. They have posts about how Obama is the anti-christ and on and on.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:48 AM
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17. I've never been there, I've never heard of it, I don't know what it is
all I know is that you and the OP posted a couple of things that were supposed to be really bad but which to me looked comparable to DU.

Maybe that site has all kinds of vile crap and maybe it has no redeeming qualities. How would I know, I know nothing about the site.

But what does that have to do with my comment? I'm not defending the site, and I'm not defending the posts

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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:33 PM
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19. There are Obama is better than McCain people, but they get shut out and accused of being trolls.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:10 AM
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9. that website is poorly designed nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:35 AM
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11. wingnut racist pigs. that's who posts there
just went there for the first time. sick assholes. bible prophecy, cheering on racism, etc. fuck those disgusting pigs.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:43 AM
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12. They have a section dedicated to everything they hate about Obama lol!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:44 AM
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13. I don't hang out on wingnut type forums
I won't go back there. it's filthy
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:28 PM
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18. That board is loaded with old ladies that sat and ate at picnics while
black men were being hung.
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