Senator Clinton was right: It does take a village. Had she returned

[saltpoint]

to that village instead of abandoning it, she would be the nominee-apparent today.

Many progressive Democrats and independents took Bill Clinton's side against his moralistic detractors during the impeachment proceedings, in part because we could see the grandstanding moralism of Kenneth Starr et al, the whiplash cheerleading of the Limbaughs and Hannitys, and the bitter gotcha-reflex of Linda Tripp. "Monica, I'm your best friend. You can tell me anything." THAT Linda Tripp.

Many of the same progressive Democrats liked IT TAKES A VILLAGE and agreed with its central tenets and undergirding philosophy.

If Sen. Clinton is the author of that book, where are her public remarks in defense of its urgency?

This progressive hasn't heard a peep about it for some years now.

[bigbrother05]

1. Instead we get the Village Idiot

[saltpoint]

2. Bush. A man who is fiercely, proudly, and irreversibly ignorant.

My deep hope is that people around the globe realize that we are not ALL like George W. Bush, and that most of us wish for genuine good-faith alliances with others world-wide.

[Joe Bacon]

11. And Hillary Clinton has mutated into Lurleen Wallace.

so sad.

[saltpoint]

13. Hi Joe. My god, I haven't heard the naem "Lurleen Wallace" in ages, but

I remember a ROLLING STONE article some many moons ago which profiled her. In one instance, Lurleen's mama told her not to date George, owing to her observation "Why, he ain't even titty-high."

Evidently Lurleen didn't prize that insight as reverentially as her mother had hoped, and she went on to marry the man anyway.

[QC]

24. That's a cute zinger, but not entirely fair to Lurleen Wallace.

Though everyone knew that she was George's proxy, she did make one issue her own: care for the mentally ill. She toured Partlow School, the state's home for retarded children, and came out in tears. After this shock, she worked tirelessly of the issue of mental health care and made a real difference.

I think it is safe to say that she made more of a difference in the lives of the suffering than a number of our recent candidates have.

[saltpoint]

25. I applaud her efforts.

[L0oniX]

3. Instead she went to the Village of the Damned.

:evilgrin:

[saltpoint]

4. : ) -- whereof the welcoming sign out on the highway reads,

"Village of the Damned -- Mark Penn, Mayor."

[patrice]

5. The most difficult and trickiest task is to be Honest with yourself and recognize what is

window dressing and what is actually what you are. One can get all hot and bothered over some idea or concept or __________________ but one's core reality can be something quite indirectly related to whatever trigger is turning you on. Conditions of stress have a way of exposing one's real Reality.

[saltpoint]

6. Hi, patrice. If that's so, Mrs. Clinton should be asked -- ideally by

Jim Lehrer or Bill Moyers -- if that process has been realized in her campaign this winter.

I'd tune in for that interview, you bet.

[patrice]

9. We definitely NEED to talk about the group's responsibilities for its individual

members and the individual's responsibilities for the group. That WOULD be a very constructive discussion.

:hi:

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. What does Barbara Feinman have to say about this?

Clinton has been criticized for not giving credit to a ghostwriter in connection with It Takes a Village. The majority of the book was reportedly written by ghostwriter Barbara Feinman. When the book was first announced in April 1995, The New York Times reported publisher Simon & Schuster as saying "The book will actually be written by Barbara Feinman, a journalism professor at Georgetown University in Washington. Ms. Feinman will conduct a series of interviews with Mrs. Clinton, who will help edit the resulting text."

Feinman spent seven months on the project and was paid $120,000 for her work. Feinman, however, was not mentioned anywhere in the book. Clinton's acknowledgment section began: "It takes a village to bring a book into the world, as everyone who has written one knows. Many people have helped me to complete this one, sometimes without even knowing it. They are so numerous that I will not even attempt to acknowledge them individually, for fear that I might leave one out."<11> During her promotional tour for the book, Clinton said, "I actually wrote the book ... I had to write my own book because I want to stand by every word." Clinton stated that Feinman assisted in interviews and did some editorial drafting of "connecting paragraphs", while Clinton herself wrote the final manuscript in longhand.

This led Feinman to complain at the time to Capitol Style magazine over the lack of acknowledgement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Takes_a_Village

[saltpoint]

8. Hi, Ichingcarpenter. I didn't know that at all about Ms. Feinman.

It would be interesting to get an interview with her -- maybe Katrina vanden Heuvel of THE NATION should do the interview -- to find out how things stand.

I may poke around on the web to see what's out there.

thanks.

[HooptieWagon]

10. There WAS a village...

Hillary cluster-bombed it.

[saltpoint]

12. The impression I have is that there is a distance between the HClinton who

endorsed the tenets of that book, that global model, and the HClinton who now campaigns on the fumes of political celebrity.

Who in that campaign team urged her to abandon this model? It was the one vivid endorsement she had made to an Idea, to the notion of a functioning, equitable global community.

I heard nary a peep of it for weeks, then months, now years.

In the course of whatever made her go from that model to the current one, IMO, are the reasons she has lost her chance for the presidency.

[HooptieWagon]

14. Agreed

"In the course of whatever made her go from that model to the current one, IMO, are the reasons she has lost her chance for the presidency."

Yes, I agree that was the turning point. She went and triangulated herself into a corner.

[crankychatter]

15. Clinton's Welfare Legislation ATE families

just the facts

I have never liked either one of these people and I voted for them twice

expert rhetoric on the outside... scheming corporatists on the flip side

[grantcart]

16. For her it was all about packaging

what was inside could always be re arranged or re written, you only have to 'obliterate' it.

[saltpoint]

17. Yes, it is the prevailing notion many have of "the Clintons."

I wanted Mario Cuomo to run in the 1992 Democratic primary.

He almost did.

[saltpoint]

18. One or two gifted writers culled from college campuses, for example,

could have saved Mrs. Clinton's nomination.

Her apparent bias against speeches being "just words" has not served her well at all.

[ccharles000]

19. Hillary is a lovely woman.

I believe that she cares for us all.

[saltpoint]

20. She looks great. I liked the pearls. I liked the turqoise.

The praise of John McCain, however, made me puke.

[Condem]

22. McCain, Crusoe

He better enjoy his days in the sun (probably a bad choice of words) cos we haven't scratched the tip of the iceberg, yet.

[saltpoint]

23. Hi, Condem. Ya know, I think McCain actually believes he is presidential

timber.

I think after the 2000 and 2004 race, the Democratic Party smells blood and is going to go in for the kill. if McCain gets reckless, wayward, misrepresentative, and shitty, and you know he will, I think we're going to come after him with every cannon on deck until his little wooden boat is sleeping the sleep of the ancient fishes.

Also, presuming that Obama is our nominee, I'm not seeing McCain having an easy go of it trying to defend his "another hundred years" pro-Surge pro-Bush pro-Stupidity spiel. McCain has pandered to the Falwell types but Obama knows his Chrisitianity in a way McCain never knew his, and I think even the thickest fundie is going to pick up on that.

[BlueIdaho]

21. Boy those were the days huh? nt.