White Peoples' Riot. Yeah I Said It.

[Solomon]

I'm still trying to close my mouth and wrap my mind around the current hysteria a lot of white people are experiencing simply because a black man is about to become the democratic nominee.

All of a sudden, rules don't matter anymore, principles don't matter, and any and every excuse under the sun is being raised as an objection to why this cannot be allowed to happen. Have you no shame? Are you not embarassed by how you look?

Lots of gnashing of teeth.

Hate to tell you all something. You are seeing american life in a microcosm. All over America, in every sphere of life, black people experience in one degree or another, what Barrack is going through now. Somehow, the goalposts always, ALWAYS, change when a black person is involved, whether it's being a quarterback, or an employee that has to prove he or she is twice as good to get a promotion or letter of commendation.

I would have absolutely no objection to this nonsense if the positions were reversed, but the people who are bringing up all sorts of stupid arguments about why the frontrunner should not get the prize ought to be ashamed of yourselves. The willingness to just write off an entire group of loyal supporters in order to falsely claim you need to attract people who never voted for us in the first place is despicable.

For some reason, somebody is trying to lay down the rule that only the nominee that can attract the majority of white male voters is acceptable as the American president. Why is that? The unstated implication in this is that somehow it is unfair to elect a president who does not get the majority white male vote, even if he doesn't need it to win.

I'm so glad that by the time they noticed Barrack, it was too late to stop him. He quietly built his power on grass-roots activism instead of media perceptions. Can you imagine what would have happened had they seen him coming? I shudder to think of it.

All you people whining and crying about let the process continue. You got what you wanted. You thought that it was Obama being vetted and that somehow, something would stick to knock him out. What you got though, is that it is Hillary being vetted. I'm glad that you insisted on this because I would have never uncovered the extent of how corrupt the Clintons are. As a double bonus, Barrack is still laying the ground roots basis in all the states you keep saying we can't win, by having to keep campaigning against Hillary.

It's still blowing my mind how people are so casually willing to just throw the support of the black constituency under the bus. WITHOUT BATTING AN EYE! as Jeremiah Wright would say. And the truth of the matter is, the only reason that it's not going to happen despite all your crazy concoctions and excuses, is that the democrats can't win a damned thing without the black vote.

I agree with you. Let Hillary go all the way to the end. Let all the poisons hatch out in the mud. Let her completely ruin herself, because I for one do not relish the idea that after Obama wins the presidency, the Clintons will be forever trying to subvert him, working and scheming to make sure he fails.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. Obama is going to put us in the detention centers and make

fishing illegal. I heard it on the television.

[cliffordu]

15. NO FISHING!!!!???!??!?!?!?! DAMN YOU OSAMA!!!!!!111!1!111

I'M SUPER CEREAL!11!!!!!11


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EffieBlack]

79. And bowling will require registration and a license

[derby378]

2. Obama's gonna outlaw milk, beer, and DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES

Heard it on the Internets. There's a e-mail going 'round.

[Maine-ah]

54. heh, he should outlaw American Idol

:evilgrin:

[derby378]

110. I heard that Obama's got a cell in Gitmo reserved for Sanjaya

:rofl:

[newmajority]

113. Hell, if that's the case, he'll win a 50 state landslide

Even the repukes will vote for that.

[shadowknows69]

3. My greatest wish right now is that on his inauguration day

Obama steps up to the microphone after taking the oath of office and says: "As-Salamu Alaykum my fellow Americans. Psyche!!!! Just kidding, settle down white people."

Public Enemy would have to be the house band for the party afterwords of course.

[Name removed]

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[Labors of Hercules]

32. u fergot the fried chicken...

and corn bread.

[ScarletSniper]

34. Damn it man...need someone to make the Sweet Potato Pie too..from scratch no less..

[SwampG8r]

46. i can do that no problem

you will reach back and slap your mamma for what shes been calling sweet potato pie afterwards

[ScarletSniper]

53. Ha Ha..I make a mean one myself..what flavoring, lemon or vanilla for you?

[SwampG8r]

107. fresh key lime rind and a little nutmeg fresh ground

[shadowknows69]

42. I'm sorry, who the hell doesn't love fried chicken and corn bread?

dead people that's who, nobody else.

[tblue37]

50. Love fried chicken. Can't stand corn bread. Still alive, though--I think. n/t

[ScarletSniper]

55. You need some homemade cornbread with a slather of butter..lmao

[tblue37]

72. My mom was a Southern gal, and I was born and largely raised in the South,

until we moved to PA after Dad got out of the Air Force. Mom made cornbread often. She and my ex-husband (also born and largely raised a Southerner) used to sit and eat cornbread--often drinking buttermilk with it. They loved it. They never liked each other, but they still spent a lot of time sharing cornbread and buttermilk (often dunking the cornbread in the buttermilk), which created an odd sort of bond between them. I never could eat it, though. It always tasted dry and and gritty to me. I don't like buttermilk, either.

I was born in Biloxi, Mississippi, though Dad was transferred so we moved when I was 2 weeks old. But I spent most of my early life in the South: 4 years in South Carolina and 4 in Florida, and then 2 years in North Carolina before we moved to PA (when I was 12). But despite those formative years in the South, I never did develop a taste for cornbread or buttermilk. I guess I am a traitor to my roots. (Mom always thought so LOL.)

[ScarletSniper]

91. LOL..yep traitor...but I understand..I hate Okra..and my family thinks I'm nuts...

[DearAbby]

95. Okra?!?

Shit, why did the good lord make something that looks like it fell out of someone's nose, food?

Slimey icky poo! :::shakes fingers::: ew

[ScarletSniper]

97. exactly

[Bake]

109. You're s'posed to roll it in corn meal and fry it.

Boiled, it's nasty slimy ...

Bake

[tblue37]

108. Okra tastes great, but since it has the consistency of snot, I can't stand it either. LOL.

I gagged both times I tried to eat it.

[Bake]

86. Gosh, I'm white and I like fried chicken and corn bread.

Sweet potato pie, too. Is that okay with y'all?

Bake

[ScarletSniper]

92. Sho nuff...

[Cassandra]

132. Same here...

I'm a nice Jewish girl from Brooklyn and I prefer my cornbread grainy, which can be hard to come by around here (I don't think I can deal with the calories involved in searching for great cornbread in NYC).

[EffieBlack]

80. And the Electric Slide at the Inaugural Balls

[ScarletSniper]

93. LOL..sounds like a plan

[Kahuna]

121. Oh oh. Throw in some candied yams and baked macaroni and you got a deal!

:loveya:

[Ice-9]

56. "As-Salamu Alaykum my fellow Americans. Psyche!!!! Just kidding, settle down white people."

:spray:

[shadowknows69]

73. Great screen name welcome to DU!!!

"Cat's Cradle" was the first Vonnegut book I read.

[Kahuna]

122. What? I like salami. But I don't know how to make 'em.

:silly:

[graycem]

114. LOL!

Honest to goodness, laugh-out-loud funny!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. Not Sure What Circles You Hang Around In, But I Haven't Seen Anyone Hysterical That A Black Man

could become president. From where I sit, your whole OP opens with a false declaration that you made up just for sake of presenting a side to an argument that doesn't really exist.

[Solomon]

11. LOL Knew you would be one of the first to show up.

[ScarletSniper]

14. BINGO!

[cliffordu]

16. FORGET BINGO, HE'S OUTLAWING THAT, TOO.

[ScarletSniper]

21. He's also outlawing the white cue ball on pool tables too and plan to paint the White House black!

[spoony]

44. Do you want a prize? Your OP was uninformed and

inflammatory. I wish there was just one bloody day on DU where Obama supporters weren't calling every white non-supporter they see a racist. Without, of course, ANY evidence to back up their claim.

[Solomon]

49. I didn't say every white non-supporter.

Thems your words. I was addressing those people, as well as the nattering naybobs of the mainstream media, who have been inventing and pushing all kinds of concoctions, changing of the rules, whatever it is you need to do, to win. Trying to sell a theft.

I take no offense at those who support her privately for whatever reason. Everybody has that right.

[Ronnie]

67. "support her privately " - "Trying to sell a theft."

What on earth are you talking about?

[Solomon]

77. What I am talking about is I recognize everybody has a right

to vote for whomever they want, for whatever reason that they want, but I have a problem with people who try to convince other people that it's okay to violate integrity by trying to convince people that it's okay to change the rules to suit whoever you want to win. i.e. people who are selling a theft.

[mrbluto]

88. Please indicate the rule change.

I'm curious - what rule(s) have been changed?

[Solomon]

101. Well, how 'bout this one. The candidates signed an

agreement that the primaries in Florida and Michigan wouldn't count. After agreeing to that effect, Hillary said several times that they didn't count. But at the time she signed the agreement and made the statements, she assumed that she would be the nominee. Now that it turns out she is behind, she wants to change the rules to suit her purpose. It's dishonorable. To make matters worse, she blamed Obama for not "resolving" the matter.

As if it couldn't get any worse, she uses the public like cattle by using the "not fair not to let all the votes count" as her jusitifcation for wanting to change the rules. She didn't care about let everybody vote when she thought she was going to blow everybody out by Supertuesday.

I'm sorry if you can't see these things for yourself.

[mrbluto]

127. Sorry if you need to resort to weak manuevers

Like you're so concerned if I can't see something.

Bullsh*t.

I asked my question to see if you knew what the hell you were talking about.

I didn't get the answer I expected, which is to your credit. I expected you to yammer about how a brokered convention was changing the rules like 90% of the other people who sound like you.

I myself am not sure how MI & FL should be handled - on one hand there was the agreement not to participate, on the other the people who monkeyed with the dates aren't really the people getting punished. Also there is the issue of whether we can ignore something that's going to be a factor in the GE just to punish some people out of some desire for fairness.

[H2O Man]

5. Even here on a

progressive/liberal democratic site, we see some of our friends experiencing great difficulty with this. I think they will be okay in the long run.

[Saturday]

6. I see no hysteria in a lot of white people simply

because a black man is about to become the democratic nominee. I do see white people noticing that Bill and Hillary Clinton were major supporters of blacks for all their life in politics but now that a black candidate is running blacks have abandoned Hillary. And don't tell me it was because Bill said Jesse Jackson won in SC. How dare he state a fact. 92% of blacks voting for Obama proves that fact. But it is the 'reason' blacks want to use to cover their racism. Yes, whites are noticing that. Obama has opened huge wounds in whites by trying to blame the Clintons for racism when in fact it's him that is doing it.

[Solomon]

10. LOL No problem when 90% of blacks vote for a

white man is it?

I was firmly in Hillary's camp when this started. And so were most black people. So don 't give me this crap. We been voting for white people for years. Did Al Sharpton get 90%?

It might seem strange to you, but maybe blacks are voting for Barrack because he's the best candidate, black or white. From where I sit, whites ought to be voting for him 90% too.

[futureliveshere]

18. excellent response to yada. Barack is the best of the lot, Black, White or Rainbow colored. :)

[ScarletSniper]

19. "No problem when 90% of blacks vote for a white man is it?"

Of course not..no problem if 90% of whites voted for a white man, either! If Obama wasn't black there'd be no discussion.

[Saturday]

27. I don't see your point.

Is there an example where a white and a black ran and the blacks voted 90% for the white? You can't use white vs white candidate races.

[ScarletSniper]

29. Yada I don't expect you to understand me at all..

[Saturday]

36. I actually was trying to understand you but it you're

comparing a white vs white race and 90% of blacks voted for a white that isn't pertinent. I asked for a black vs white race where 90% of blacks voted for the white. You don't have an example so I rest my case.

[ScarletSniper]

52. Based on your post...here and elsewhere I would never nor do I expect you to ever understand me..so

why would I bother explaining my post further. You're locked into your opinion and you are entitled to it.

[whistler162]

126. I don't have any numbers....

but, I would guess any race Alan Keyes ran in!:sarcasm:

[mrbluto]

89. Nor does it appear...

...that you wish to be understood.

I have a feeling you can't afford to be understood, that if you made your stance perfectly clear it would be indefensible. And that you know that.

[ScarletSniper]

94. nope

[SwampG8r]

47. jc watts in ok

[EffieBlack]

84. Yes you can

In the 2004 primaries, Al Sharpton got about 6% of the non-white vote (and that includes blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc.) and less than 2% of the white vote. On the other hand, more than 90% of white voters voted against Sharpton and for white candidates while more than 90% of minority voters ALSO voted for white candidates.

Funny, I didn't hear anyone complain back then about black voters voting in a "bloc." And I certainly didn't hear anyone accuse white voters of being racist or voting their race or voting for any other reason other than that they thought the candidates they selected would make the best president. Of course, some of the long history of white bloc voting for white candidates against black candidates is masked by the fact that there has usually been more than one white candidate to choose from, enabling white voters to spread their votes against black candidates between several candidates. But no matter how you mask it, white voters have almost ALWAYS voted in massive numbers AGAINST black candidates while black voters have almost always voted in massive numbers FOR white candidates.

So the argument that, by voting in large numbers for Barack Obama now, black voters are somehow engaging in racial bloc voting is specious at best, given the history that black voters have established of having absolutely no problem with and being perfectly comfortable with and willing to vote for white candidates.

White voters, on the other hand, have a long history of voting AGAINST black candidates and while Obama has made tremendous gains in earning the support of a large number of white voters, the fact that some white voters still won't vote for him should come as no surprise to anyone who has observed white Americans' voting patters over the years.

[KnaveRupe]

123. As was said earlier - did Sharpton get 90% of the black vote?

Obama isn't the first African-American to ever run for president. He's just the first one ever to become a front-runner.

[Saturday]

22. Sharpton didn't get 90% because he wasn't a viable candidate

and blacks knew it. As Michelle Obama said, they will come around and they did. And if there are only whites in the race I can see why a white man would get 90% of blacks votes, becaue there is no other choice. But between a white and a black they have chosen a black. It's pretty much next to impossible to get 90% of people (black or white) to agree on anything so saying it is because he is the best candidate doesn't hold true.

[EffieBlack]

85. Ahhhh - so blacks only engage in racist bloc voting when a VIABLE black candidate is running?

Here's a clue - one of the main reasons he wasn't viable was that black voters did not vote for him in larger numbers. And if black voters were as driven by race in their voting habits as you seem to believe (while amazingly believing that white voters are not) Sharpton would have gotten 90% of the black vote and 2004 would have been an entirely different race.

Your argument not only is completely full of shit, but it reveals far more about your attitude and thinking than you probably intended.

[EffieBlack]

82. Oh, please. You don't understand.

How can you possibly think that it would be appropriate for 90% of white people to vote for Barack - because that's the proportion of black people that are doing it?

If 40% of white people are voting for Barack and 90% of black people are voting for Barack, the black people are out of kilter because 40% is the mean - after all, that's what white folks are doing so anything that deviates from it is immediately suspect.

Blacks ought to be voting for Barack in whatever proportion white people are voting for him. Anything more or less means that they're either 1) stupid; 2) color-struck; 3) confused; or 4) just not ready-for-prime-time.

:sarcasm:

[Solomon]

98. lol Damn. You pegged that one.

Glad I opened the door for that one. lol

[Jed Dilligan]

23. So the majority of whites voting Clinton proves they are voting for her

because she is white. That's as true as what you said.

[Saturday]

28. Are 90% of whites voting for Clinton? Not in Iowa.nt

[Jed Dilligan]

35. It's equally ridiculous to ascribe causality

based on a large majority or a small one.

[Why Syzygy]

30. It was the fake accent! I suppose blacks ENJOY being

played the fool with a big black accent comin in dere church? Hillary stinks. That's why.

[roseBudd]

39. Hillary's Ebonics need serious tutoring, it's not something you pick up in the Governor's Mansion

[roseBudd]

38. Black people voting for the first serious black POTUS contender in droves is not racism

It would be truly weird if they didn't out of pride. They don't owe Bill & Hillary anything.

[Steely_Dan]

48. Well Put...

I agree with 90% of what you wrote.

-P

[Ice-9]

60. Okay

I do see white people noticing that Bill and Hillary Clinton were major supporters of blacks for all their life in politics but now that a black candidate is running blacks have abandoned Hillary.

Or as Stewie Griffin put it (in describing the hard-won Union victory in the Civil War), "We wrote a pretty big check for you people, so I think a thank you is in order."

The problem with that argument is that the economic opportunities that black Americans finally began to see during the 1990s were not a gift of the Clinton presidency. They were opportunities that black Americans were *owed* and that should have been available to them on the same terms that most white Americans had enjoyed for centuries. President Clinton deserves credit for acknowledging that debt and seeking to make good on it, but the idea that black Americans owe him (much less his wife) anything is derisory.

[IsItJustMe]

62. Bull shit. Nuff said.

[TahitiNut]

66. Yup. I've heard it often. Blacks are to blame for racism.

It's exactly what the KKK has said for many decades.

:puke: :puke:

[Liberal Gramma]

102. Strangely, the black vote was split between them until the SC remark

He may not have intended it to sound like racism, but apparently the black community heard racism. I am white, so I might not pick up on the more subtle forms of racism, but someone who has had to deal with that all their lives will.

And...Obama has made no accusations of racism toward the Clintons. That is what you want to believe, because**gasp**for some reason you don't like Obama.

[knixphan]

112. Right on, Gramma!

[ecdab]

7. Your point about Obama needed to be twice as good as "white"

politicians is dead on and how that relates to the every day lives of successfully African Americans in this country.

Luckily for us, Obama really is twice as good. So despite the fact that there is one standard for associations that Barack is "allowed" to have in MSM and another for all the other candidates - Obama has pushed to the lead.

[ScarletSniper]

8. "I'm so glad that by the time they noticed Barrack, it was too late to stop him."

Bingo!!!!

For once, I appreciate arrogance and entitlement. It blinded the lot of the dirty, rotten scoundrels just long enough to put him ahead, enough to make it irreversible.

[KaptBunnyPants]

9. They are the villians of History.

Democrats are openly making the case that a black man cannot be allowed to become the nominee, even though he won the primary. Bigot is as bigot does.

[Shoelace]

13. try being a middle aged woman in this youth crazed culture

and you'll see a bias that only benefits rich Republican women.
I know, I'm witnessing it in every day life, especially with my mother, her friends and many older women.

I'll vote for Obama if he's our candidate or whoever it turns out to be. I have a deep and very passionate commitment to ending racial bias including bias toward Hispanics, etc.

My mentor was a sociology professor who was nearly fired for her support of the Black Panthers in the '60s. We fought like hell back then for racial equality.
And don't be telling me that the Panthers didn't do good things. Before they were driven to extinction, they helped their people with some very positive, proactive programs. Those were violent times.

[Adelante]

33. Interesting post, thanks

Are you a Clinton supporter? I only ask because I've been interested to know how her red-baiting, Weather Underground, line of attack against Obama can be acceptable to, well, anybody. But since you mentioned the Panthers and knowing someone who had some connection, how does it strike you?

[Shoelace]

83. I will support, vote for our Democratic candidates

and fight like hell to get as many of them elected to both houses of Congress and the presidency.

If that's either one or both of them, I'll vote accordingly.

[futureliveshere]

17. Great post. It would be much more effective w/o the rant element.

But the points are absolutely 100% valid. Go Obama.

[Jed Dilligan]

25. I don't see the rant

The tone of the post is calm considering the subject matter.

[Solomon]

26. I agree. Sometimes you can't help yourself though.

But I agree. You are right.

[futureliveshere]

129. I know... I know... The Clintons bring out the worst in all of us. That should be clue enough.

[cliffordu]

20. Yep. Nuff said. 'cept K&R

:kick:

[Name removed]

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[eleny]

31. Thank you

You've garnered a bunch of snark. But there's truth in what you shared.

I wasn't supporting him at the start. But I caucused for him and was glad to do it. He certainly has the brains for the job. But since February I'm taken more and more by his poise given the obstacles. He hasn't stumbled much.

And after watching the Wright interview last night I can see that those obstacles include the swiftboating tactics of the MSM with their cherry picking behavior. Matthews declaring that Wright dismissed Obama and even Bill Maher deciding that Wright threw Obama under the bus. What a load.

Again, thanks for your thoughts. If he makes it all the way he's going to need our continuing support.

[Solomon]

37. I saw that too. I wrote another thread that sank about

why they released so much of the interview before it was aired by PBS. I didn't like what they did because the msm media sliced up substantial segments of the interview, put their spin on it, and told the public what to think about it for at least two days before it actually aired. In today's climate, people who watched the mainstream media probably thought they didn't need to see the interview.

So many powerful forces are arrayed against Obama. It is really awesome to watch the spectacle of it. But the key to his appeal is the awesome way in which he is handling it. That's what people want in a leader. Somebody who has credibility so that when you sit down at the table, everybody is at least satisfied that respect for their position is acknowledged. The reasons the Clintons and the MSM media are pushing as to why Barrack should not be the nominee, are the very reasons that proves why he should be our president at this particular time.

IF you keep lying all the time, what credibility do you have except threats.

And that's what America does today, threatens all the damn time.

[Algorem]

40. those shrooms are something

[shadowknows69]

43. There's a fungus among us?

[AspenRose]

41. I'm bookmarking this.

Just for this part alone:

"Hate to tell you all something. You are seeing american life in a microcosm. All over America, in every sphere of life, black people experience in one degree or another, what Barrack is going through now. Somehow, the goalposts always, ALWAYS, change when a black person is involved, whether it's being a quarterback, or an employee that has to prove he or she is twice as good to get a promotion or letter of commendation."

You "get it." :hug:

[Jensen]

45. In on word.......Bravo!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[loyalsister]

51. Great post

I am glad to see that there have been a few people here who have written very thoughtfully about race and expressed concerns similar to my own.

My personal thesis has been that the main undercurrent has been that white privilege is perceived to be under attack.

I personally question how many people know what the concept is, and I know that few believe it exists.

The thing that I think has been most glaringly revealed is that many unexpected people who do not hold explicitly offensive racist views will defend white privilege upon perceived threat.

I honestly believe that this is unconcious.

Having developed a personal interest in seeing an advancement in race relations over the past two years, I resent the lack of self-examination at this opportune time in history.

Once the primary is resolved, maybe some will examine their reactions. I can only hope, but I am only cautiously optimistic as I am fully aware of the psychological defenses that my white peers have pulled out.

[Solomon]

63. Thank you. Most of it is unconscious, so I was wrong to get

on a rant about it. But the people who are trying to sell other people into changing the rules, win at all cost, that's not right. A person has the right to vote for whatever reason they want, but they shouldn't be trying to convince other people to disregard integrity.

[loyalsister]

74. I fully agree

I have had my rants myself. I have been unmercifully conflicted between my frustration and my belief in the democratic process. In fact, you inspired me to grab a sig line.

[Avalux]

57. I will actively work to make sure Hillary loses her senate seat.

I want the Clintons to be cut from the Democratic party like a gangrenous limb.

[loyalsister]

75. That's the inevitible backlash they didn't see coming

The "who else are they going to vote for?" hubris has been building for a long time, and will be their undoing.

[chill_wind]

111. No exit strategy. Sounds rather familiar.

They thought it was going to be a cakewalk right back into WH digs.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

58. No matter who wins - there will be a large constituency that feels hurt.

As a middle-aged woman - I feel that Hillary has been treated very harshly by the media and by many in the Democratic Party. There is really no difference between Free Republic and on this board when it comes to Hillary.

They post ugly pictures of her, say she's an old hag, witch, troll, talk about Bill's blow job, someone even posted something about Vince Foster. People have been using articles from RW sources and being rec'd and applauded for using them.

[ScarletSniper]

59. Well, Bill's blow jobs are fair game...

[Maddy McCall]

81. On DU, they're not.

I don't know where you came from a week ago, but you need to read the rules.

[ScarletSniper]

96. Why thank you Maddy Maddy McCall...he he he

[IsItJustMe]

61. I agree with much of your post, and yet you go too far when you paint all white people with that

brush. I am white and I am seeing and experiencing the exact same thing you are. The msm and the Hillary camp are the culprits here.

Yes indeed, these arguements that Obama can't win are nafarious and have racial undertones to them.

Anyone that wants to know the truth can see it for what it is, black or white, and no, it isn't pretty.

As Martin Luther King once said, "We shall overcome."

[Solomon]

65. I never meant paint all white people. I realize that the tone of

my rant is causing you to think that I am. I'm talking about those who are actually pushing bullshit as an excuse to change the rules.

when they can give me one, just one fucking reason based on policy, then I'll listen. But no one can deny that the only argument is that he is black and America will not vote for him.

[IsItJustMe]

70. I hear you. Because of the format of these posts, communication becomes difficult at times. I

completely understand and agree with where you are coming from. I have seen a lot of bull shit in my life, and yet, every time I think I have seen it all, then there is this. To me, it is truly astonishing that, we as Democrats, are even having this discussion, and I for one lay the blame on the Clintons door step, and our pathetic msm.

The 'Win at any cost' strategy is utterly and morally bank rupt. And mark my words, it won't be forgotten.

[GoesTo11]

64. The last white people's riot didn't work out so well

Stopping the recount. Florida, 2000

[Solomon]

69. LOL

They sure do work well for republicans.

[bigtree]

68. you make like we can't oppose him on any other terms than his race

how ridiculous and small-minded

[LibraLiz1973]

71. But TYPICAL

When Obama supporters talk about the race card being played, I can only sigh and roll my eyes... since THEY are the ones playing it like a fiddle.

[WeDidIt]

76. We should all be concerned about Obama's race

After all, the Human Race has a lot to be concerned about.

Face it, the man is not "black", nor is he "white".

The man is HUMAN.

[EffieBlack]

78. Beautiful, beautiful!

You eloquently stated what so many of us are feeling and seeing and what so many others need to hear.

Thank you!

:yourock:

[madrchsod]

87. well at least i`m not alone in thinking this...

i see it here everyday and i thought no one else noticed...

[NashVegas]

90. What the Heck Are You Talking About?

The only hysteria I see is that which is coming from Barack Obama supporters who resort to diatribes like this.


So, we're all racists now? Great.

[ginchinchili]

99. Victimization syndrome: always blame somebody else.

A lot of people take offense to the notion that you're either an Obama supporter or a racist. It will most certainly hurt your candidate's chances of ever becoming president. It's just one of the reasons I won't vote for him, but the main reason remains his lack of qualifications. The rest is just annoying. I've been annoyed long enough by an American president and I don't care to extend it.

[LWolf]

100. It is quite possible for people to oppose Obama for reasons other than race.

I do, for one. I'm a white female, and I don't support him.

Not because I'm afraid of a black president, lol.

Because I don't like his platform. Issues and record drive my support.

I don't support HRC either. Let's be clear: I would LOVE to vote for the first woman president. Or the first black president. I have to be able to vote for them, though, based on record and platform, not race or gender.

I've considered voting for Cynthia McKinney in November. She's both a woman and black, and I like her better than both of the two on my primary ballot. I'm sorry she's no longer a Democrat.

Before I do something that drastic, though, I'll hold out for the brokered convention and the compromise candidate. I don't care what race or gender that candidate is, if he or she is less divisive.

[my2sense]

103. Excellent Points K & R

[Zhade]

104. Indeed.

NT!

[Condem]

105. We'll play "White Riot" by The Clash.

[newmajority]

115. Now that's the best idea I've heard all day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_C78zw5i8U

White Riot
(Strummer/Jones)

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own

Black people gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick

An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!

All the power's in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it
While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it

Everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
Nobody wants
To go to jail!

Are you taking over
or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?

[Condem]

124. That was epic, newmajority

Thanks for the video. Great start to the day!

[barack the house]

106. The argument that only majority white vote coutns is invalid Dems haven't had that for many years.

So I wouldn't worry about about the poster that said that. I mean I can't se us winnign the fundies.

[graycem]

116. Great post especially

in light of the whole Rev. Wright issue. How many white candidates have had their churches combed through for dirt? Yet when they couldn't find anything substantial on Barack, they use his pastor to smear him.

The whole separation of church and state thing is gone for good I guess, since we had to elect the great Prophet Bush who seems content and determined to lead us into "Armageddon" in the middle east, but yay, at least we won't have to worry about a HALF-black/half-white President Obama's pastor trying to disparage our great America who has never done anything like killing people for oil. I feel so much better. :|

[ccharles000]

117. I like Obama if he is the nominee I will vote for him.

Just because I support Hillary does not make me racist.

[mcollier]

118. Thanks CCharles Your Right

People need to STOP generalizing with regard to racist comments... That is clearly ignorant.

Our fight is and should be focused on McCain.

Its going to be a fierce fight - See Round one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjcLCDUrAk

[Turbineguy]

119. Oh no! I'm really screwn

cuz I'm really white!

Oh wait a minute, my Wife is brown. Does that count?

It wouldn't be the first time she's saved my skin.

[Kahuna]

120. The wisdom of Solomon. nt

[bvar22]

125. Thank You ! You changed my mind .

Before your post, I could find no good reason for Hillary maintaining her already failed bid for the Dem nomination.
You have given me a good reason for NOT calling for her to drop out.

"Let Hillary go all the way to the end. Let all the poisons hatch out in the mud. Let her completely ruin herself, because I for one do not relish the idea that after Obama wins the presidency, the Clintons will be forever trying to subvert him, working and scheming to make sure he fails."

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[Condem]

128. Sorry, Solomon

I'm kicking this back up for newmajority post # 115, One of the greatest rock & roll bands of all time in their prime . Enjoy!

[newmajority]

130. One kick deserves another

A bittersweet kick in this case.......

A semi-reunion here. Mick Jones joining Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros on stage for what would unfortunately be their last performance together, about 6 weeks later Joe would leave this world :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu-02udB57w

[Condem]

131. I've watched it more than twenty times, new.

Yes, tears in my eyes, also.