WA98296
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Sat Apr-26-08 10:59 AM
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Updated! Quoting Bill Clinton last night in North Bend, Oregon |
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Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 11:27 AM by WA98296
Bill Clinton campaigned for Hillary last night in North Bend, Oregon to around 2,000 people. The news here played this small clip from his speech. (Thanks to Tivo, here is the exact quote)…
“My beef with Hillary’s opponent is that he keeps saying that there is not much difference between the way we did in the 90’s and the way we did in this decade and I beg to differ. Look, in the 90’s we had 22.7 million new jobs, in this decade only 5 million. That’s why wages are flat.”
Editied: YIKES...I missed his last comment, he went on to say:
"YOU CAN'T HAVE INCOMES RISING IF THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR PEOPLE'S WORK."
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In my opinion NAFTA a major reason why wages are flat. We can thank the Clintons for NAFTA. I’m old enough to remember Bill bringing us NAFTA. And oh yes, Hillary WAS all for it.. Being a union family, we discussed at the time that it was going to be bad for labor in this country.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:01 AM
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1. And of course we remember Ross Perot... |
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and his "giant sucking sound." Well, it's still sucking.
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WA98296
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:02 AM
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2. That's right, Ross said it first! |
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:17 AM
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8. But the corporate media told us Ross was "crazy" |
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:28 AM
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14. He was... but not about NAFTA and free trade. - n/t |
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:34 AM
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16. He was a demented little gnome. |
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But he was right about this. :)
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Sat Apr-26-08 12:27 PM
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21. well, north bend is a great place to talk about no jobs. |
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Sat Apr-26-08 12:48 PM
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23. good ol' Ross...i voted for him...TWICE!! (nm) |
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:04 AM
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3. I hear often about how Hillary is for equal wages & equal pay for women..so you'd think she'd |
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Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 11:04 AM by ScarletSniper
realize that Unions are the ultimate equalizer and would have fought against NAFTA/out sourcing and the import of cheap labor tooth and nail because of its slice, dice and dethroning of Union jobs and memberships.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:07 AM
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4. We were so disappointed at the time of NAFTA, as we had been strong Clinton supporters. It felt |
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Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 11:20 AM by WA98296
to us like his first huge mistake. Looking back, I know realize what my husband has always claimed, that Bill Clinton policies are Republican. When he made those claims, it made me angry, but he was right. Now that I'm more politically educated, I see that he was a moderate republican, so is she.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:12 AM
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6. There you have it and his gal pal Hillary ain't no better. Your hubby is a smart man..he saw it |
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before many others did..good for him. We must not make the same mistake as Dems again. Hillary has to go. Bill has to go. No more Clintons in the White House, they aren't much better than McCain.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:22 AM
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12. Clinton administration also brought us Drug Testing in the workplace, even McDonalds. |
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Not that we're for taking drugs, but we are big proponents of PRIVACY.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:24 AM
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13. Yes they are, but with an important distinction between them: |
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:58 AM
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20. Hillary's track record does not reflect that she supports equal |
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opportunities for equal pay or labor.
The fact that 1.6 million walmart female employees and former employees since 1998 are suing the megamonster for the discriminatory practices clearly shows that Hillary on that board did nothing for women in the work force. Also while she was on the board walmart execs boasted about how they prevented unions from interfering with their profits.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:12 AM
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5. They're wasting their time and money in Oregon. |
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They'll get beat by a larger margin in Oregon than they will get beat in North Carolina.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:14 AM
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7. Nah...You can find some REALLY bitter people |
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Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 11:14 AM by prodn2000
Once you get out of Portland/Salem/Eugene...
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Sat Apr-26-08 01:28 PM
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28. Yeah.... they used to call themselves the "Oregon Citizens Alliance" |
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Vile shitbags of the worst kind. Almost as bad as the Phelps crew.
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Sat Apr-26-08 01:31 PM
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I was talking about Oregon voters from smaller towns, not some crazy conservative issues group.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:17 AM
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and software giants. Those jobs have now become obsolete, or shipped over seas. Will never come back.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:19 AM
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10. Obama vs Hillary and Bill and MSM... GObama.. |
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I am truly amazed he is beating the ex Pres, NY senator, and MSM.. Truly amazing..
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:22 AM
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11. Why so few people to see a former Pres? |
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Was it a small venue? Were people turned away?
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:46 AM
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17. Mostly because my band was playing last night... |
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...and this town is Obama Country...not much Clinton sentiment here.
We have no job base, we have no fishing left, no timber, not much of anything but the retiree's from California propping up the medical industry... Bitter? They might be.
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:53 AM
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18. Sorry to hear about the hard times |
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in your beautiful area of the country. Here's hoping that a Dem in 2008 will turn things around!
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Sat Apr-26-08 04:49 PM
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30. It is a great place to live... |
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But the economy is not just slow but very slow. Its as good a place as any to starve to death:) .
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:33 AM
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15. She needs to be called out on some of this crap... |
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the economy sucks---parially because of NAFTA--partially because of her
Osama Bin Laden (who starred in her last campaign ad)--is still free to plan more attacks--because we took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, because of the Iraq war--because of the IWR vote, which included HER!!
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Sat Apr-26-08 11:58 AM
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19. Bill's jobs records benefited from the dot com bubble, not that those IT jobs are outsourced what is |
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Sat Apr-26-08 12:40 PM
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22. G. H. W. Bush's administration negotiated the NAFTA treaty |
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So he's really the one one responsible for it.
Although Bill Clinton deserves some of the responsibility, since he's the one who got Congress to ratify it. But most, if not all of the negotiation, was GHW Bush's responsibility. And the way the thing was written, it was an all-or-nothing deal, Congress was not able to amend the deal to fix even the most egregious parts.
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Sat Apr-26-08 01:26 PM
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27. Make no mistake, the Clinton's have always been on board with |
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Bush Sr.'s "New World Order" and globalization.
That is until Hillary needed votes in OH and PA. But she'll go back to it when she is in the WH if by some evil miracle she gets there.
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Sat Apr-26-08 12:50 PM
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24. You missed the most obvious: He started with a LIE about quoting Obama. |
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I've heard many, many speeches by Obama. I have never heard him say "there's not much difference between the 90's and now." In fact, that sentence doesn't even make sense, unless someone is talking about something very specific and narrow (like...there's not much difference in Crest toothpaste between the 90's and now.")
Once again, you can't believe anything the Clintons say. Bill must be takin' that Liagra again.
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Sat Apr-26-08 12:51 PM
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25. Can anyone name a positive legistative achievement that occured during the Clinton Administration? |
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NAFTA, welfare reform, the telecommunications act, the DMCA, DOMA, most favored trade status for China; I can't for the life of me think of a positive change that occurred under Clinton except the modest shift in tax collection back to the wealthy. I guess you could give him the balanced budget thing, but balancing budgets was always more important to conservatives than liberals. And, obviously, even they don't care about it that much. Maybe if Clinton did more to help people at the lower end of the scale instead of always looking out the the powerplayers first, the past 8 years wouldn't have happened. And he gets no excuse for putting a Randoid at the head of the Fed.
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Sat Apr-26-08 01:20 PM
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26. He's just pissed because Obama won't kiss his ass and tell him how wonderful he was as president. nt |
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