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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:42 PM
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That darn truth, you just can't keep a lid on it. More and more seeing the real Clinton:
It seemed her lies were working for a while - but every day more and more see the reality of the situation - and what Clinton is really like.

The protracted and increasingly acrimonious fight for the Democratic presidential nomination is unnerving core constituencies -- African Americans and wealthy liberals -- who are becoming convinced that the party could suffer irreversible harm if Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton maintains her sharp line of attack against Sen. Barack Obama.


"If this party is perceived by people as having gone into a back room somewhere and brokered a nominee, that would not be good for our party," House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (S.C.), the highest ranking African American in Congress, warned yesterday. "I'm telling you, if this continues on its current course, is going to be irreparable."

That fear, plus a more general sense that Clinton's only route to victory would be through tearing down her opponent, has led even some black Democrats who are officially neutral in the race, such as Clyburn, to speak out.


Distrust and the slow realization of the truth about the Clintons are far-reaching to all races. And to superdelegates and donors:

More than 70 top Clinton donors wrote their first checks to Obama in March, campaign records show. Clinton's lead among superdelegates, a collection of almost 800 party leaders and elected officials, has slipped from 106 in December to 23 now, according to an Associated Press tally.

"If you have any, any kind of loyalty to the Democratic Party, perhaps you need to rethink your strategy and bow out gracefully in order to save this party from a disastrous end in November," Rep. William Lacy Clay (Mo.), an African American Obama supporter, said in an appeal to Clinton.


And more donors:

There are signs that the anger voiced by some African Americans is beginning to extend to the Democratic donor base. Campaign finance records released this week show that a growing number of Clinton's early supporters migrated to Obama in March, after he achieved 11 straight victories. Of those who had previously made maximum contributions to Clinton, 73 wrote their first checks to Obama in March. The reverse was not true: Of those who had made large contributions to Obama last year, none wrote checks to Clinton in March.

"I think she is destroying the Democratic Party," said New York lawyer Daniel Berger, who had backed Clinton with the maximum allowable donation of $2,300. "That there's no way for her to win this election except by destroying , I just don't like it. So in my own little way, I'm trying to send her a message."


And more supporters:

The Obama converts include William Louis-Dreyfus. The billionaire New York financier said he had been impressed by Clinton's performance in the Senate and distressed by eight years of the Bush administration when he donated the maximum to her campaign last August. Then, he said, he began watching more closely.

"However much one might have supported the Clintons, or one might support the usual suspects in the Democratic Party, I began to believe Obama represents a new approach. He gives off such a sense of relevance that he's sort of irresistible," Louis-Dreyfus said.

He also expressed, as did other big givers who crossed to Obama, exasperation about the tone of the Clinton campaign and frustration with the candidate herself.

"At the end of the day, all she had to do was open her mouth for me not to believe her," Louis-Dreyfus said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/25/AR2008042503707.html?hpid=topnews
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:44 PM
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1. Bill is the only reason she's still in the race.
It's become his bid for a 3rd term.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:50 PM
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2. And you know, that might have worked before.
But we've seen a whole new side to him now - and it's one I'd never vote for.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:52 PM
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3. It's a big asset among democratic voters in the primaries.
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 02:53 PM by anonymous171
But it would be a HUGE disadvantage in the GE.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:40 PM
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10. Yep - some of us saw it long ago and it's taken their public deceits against our party
and other Democrats for more to open their eyes.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:55 PM
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4. No, her ego is a big part of it too.
I read the long Vanity Fair piece the other day. I don't have a link handy, but it gives great insight into Hillary's ambition.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:59 PM
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5. Is This The One ???
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:01 PM
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6. Yes, Thank you.
I just bookmarked it for continuing reference. It's extremely revealing.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:53 AM
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15. Thanks for the link . So Hillary DID serve in the WH. She's already had her two terms,
so she can sit down now. I guess we also know why she is so furious that we didn't go along with her lifetime Whitehouse plans.
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Pluvious Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:17 PM
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16. Also too ...
Isn't Bill also pushing her to stay in the fight ?

"We're not quitters" was one quote someone reported iirc.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:09 PM
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7. I guess this is the only benefit of a long campaign
You really get to know the candidates.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:32 PM
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8. "...all she had to do was open her mouth for me not to believe her"
There it is, right there--all in one neat, little bundle.

Duke
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:14 PM
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11. Yeah, that really sums it up for many of us.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:55 PM
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12. Right, that's pretty much the whole deal.
After a while, after so many lies and betrayals, you see a picture of her and you start feeling ill.

Same for her husband and all her mouthpieces.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:02 PM
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13. She's the same as Bush to me
Why bother watching or listening to her - she's just going to lie and make me angry.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:33 PM
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9. K & R
:thumbsup:
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:37 AM
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14. K & R
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